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The Republican Party: It's time for a Revolt
My post at RedCounty ^ | Rus Thompson

Posted on 01/19/2009 3:56:08 PM PST by The Mayor

Time for a revolt? Yes, it is. It is actually long past due for one, and now is the time to start.

"The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first." Thomas Jefferson

All over the country Republicans have been losing elections, from here in New York to the National elections. Why? Simple, they have lost their way and have strayed so far from their base no one wants to support them or vote for them.

The Republicans have had their chance to set the agenda, but over the past eight years they proved that once in DC, they throw their constituents under the bus. I feel sorry for the people that call me from the RNC looking for donations, I give them an earful, tell them to pass on my thoughts and concerns to the supposed "Leadership". I have refused to donate but still get letters and questionnaires in the mail. We know these are only pretentious efforts to make us believe we are helping to set the agenda. No, the only thing the RNC looks for is that check in the envelope. I have been tempted to send these back empty.

Now it seems that all the Leaders are scratching their heads wondering what they have done wrong. We need new leaders they say, yet the ones that come to the forefront are from the same group that had a part in putting us in the situation we are in today.

Why are they scratching their heads anyway? If they had been listening to us, as they say, they would know why we are in the losers seat. Their answer to the question? Well that was revealed by Limbaugh in an insiders report from the Republican Retreat. Their orders are to basically "Retreat", and now GW Bush is saying we all must get along. Who are they trying to kid, what are they trying to hide? Basically they want us to surrender to the left. Surrender? Sorry that word is not in my vocabulary.

This weekend we had our first meeting of Primary Challenge. The agenda for the next couple of years is to find candidates to run for the Erie County Legislature and other seats that are up in the county. Next year we will be running candidates to challenge the Party committee seats, both Republican and Democrats. The politicos have been in their own world of greed and corruption for so long, it is time to clean house.

It's time to bring Primary Challenge to the National level.

So how do we take back the Republican Party and Congress and rebuild? We have to do this on two fronts. Taking over the committees at the local level is one step and is a long and tedious process but one that must be done. Usually committee seats are only up every two years. Here in New York, that election just occurred, so we have two years to get the right people in place. We need people, people that are fed up and willing to stop sitting on their apathy, stop being keyboard activists, to get up and do something about it.

The next step is one that has to start now, and the House of Representatives is a primary concern. Searching out Reagan Conservative Republicans to run in a Primary against the incumbents is the place to focus. We need to list the RINO's that need to be eliminated in the next election and the Primary is where they are most vulnerable. By listing them now, making this list very public and in their faces, we can hold them accountable for their votes over the next two years. If they know we are coming and they lose, maybe, just maybe they will get the message that the base is taking the Party back..

We are fed up with the excessive spending, the bloated government, the taxes, the patronage, regulations, restrictions, earmarks, government intervention, government control and the surrendering of all we stand for as Reagan Conservatives. Smaller, more efficient, less intrusive government, the free markets, Capitalism and the infrastructure that made this the Great Country we are. We have become a government dependent society where government supposedly has the answers for everything. The same people that got us here are going to fix this mess? I think not.

Last I knew Congress had an approval rating of 12. This proves the point that WE, The People are no longer in control. It is time to put We The People back in charge.

If Limbaugh, Hannity, Ingrahm, Boortz, and the rest of the Conservative talk show hosts are serious about what they say, and their desire to take back the country to put Reagan Conservatives back in charge, they should be all over this plan.

"It is not my intention to do away with government. It is rather to make it work -- work with us, not over us; stand by our side, not ride on our back. Government can and must provide opportunity, not smother it; foster productivity, not stifle it." --Ronald Reagan


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To: pgkdan
>>I think it’s too late to save the Republican Party.

A Republic is a system, of government characterized by the Rule of Law.

Those who discard the rule of Law, are by definition not REPUBLICan.

Who will take responsibility?



WARNING! The option to override the national/Nostromo's self-destruct mechanism has now expired.
221 posted on 01/21/2009 9:47:54 AM PST by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: Logic n' Reason
Without "advertising"...and the support of the MSM, you ain't gonna make it.

For someone with a screen name such as yours I'm a little surprised that you don't see the illogic in that. You know that the MSM is playing for the other team. Exactly how do you expect to win a war if you're counting on the support of the enemy? This doesn't make sense.

The recent history of "third parties" and their candidates is dismal whether or not their idiologies were sound, moral, and/or true.

Unfortunately, they were not well-grounded and without exception were ill-conceived. But, in any case, times change. The situation has changed. We no longer have a two-party system. It's a one-party oligarchy with a "D" and an "R" wing. So, we're not building a third-party. We're building a second party so that the American people have more than just socialism to choose from.

So...how do you and your party intend to gain enough of the right kind of support to become a "force"?

By getting Christians to quit compromising the Truth, and getting conservatives up off their hind ends.

And remember: you are within the "communist states of obammica".

How could I forget?

222 posted on 01/21/2009 9:49:22 AM PST by EternalVigilance (God is watching and listening.)
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To: EternalVigilance
By getting Christians to quit compromising the Truth, and getting conservatives up off their hind ends.

OK...this is very much like all....or at least the vast majority of... other campaign "promises". Hard to dispute; who could think of being against??

The real question ..... and the one never ever addressed by "candidates" is..........

SPECIFICALLY...HOW???

And once you answer the "how", what are your "next steps" and action plan?

And...yes, I've visited your website...didn't see the answers there either.

223 posted on 01/21/2009 9:59:53 AM PST by Logic n' Reason ("Never allow someone to be your priority while allowing yourself to be their option.")
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To: The Mayor
It's not just a matter of knowing who has to go...it's a matter of knowing what you need, what will replace that which has to go.

Being a conserative is necessary, but not sufficient.

224 posted on 01/21/2009 10:01:33 AM PST by gogeo (Democrats want to support the troops by accusing them of war crimes.)
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To: Old Sarge

“they’re one big happy entertainment industry.”

You have that exactly right. During this last election Limbaugh mentioned that he had donated to a candidate for the first time in his life. Not so surprising when you consider that he never bothered to vote until he was 37.


225 posted on 01/21/2009 10:08:00 AM PST by Pelham (Mexifornia. It's your future.)
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To: stevio

It was the same when we were campaigning for Prop 187. Not a peep out of Limbaugh. But once the groundswell becomes overwhelming he can be counted on to run beside the grassroots army shouting ‘wait! wait! I’m your leader!’


226 posted on 01/21/2009 10:12:37 AM PST by Pelham (Mexifornia. It's your future.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

“Cheerful admission: Rush Limbaugh and Ronald Reagan probably did combine to make sure enough men got out to swing the after-Jimmy election and probably made some temporary conversions.”

Limbaugh had zero impact on any Reagan election. Limbaugh didn’t begin his political radio career until 1988, the same year he first bothered to vote.


227 posted on 01/21/2009 10:20:49 AM PST by Pelham (Mexifornia. It's your future.)
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To: Logic n' Reason
SPECIFICALLY...HOW???

And once you answer the "how", what are your "next steps" and action plan?

I hope you'll find most of the answers here, in detail. Whatever questions you might still have I'll be happy to answer.

From the desk of AIP Chairman Tom Hoefling

To all prospective AIP supporters,

When we founded America’s Independent Party in June, it was in the sincere belief that our existing political leaders and the institutions they control had overwhelmingly failed us. The events of the months since have only confirmed this judgment. Years of compromise by far too many, and the resulting steady rise of a political process that disempowers the principled and empowers liberal media, liberal candidates, and unprincipled money, have produced little but defeat for Republicans and the erstwhile “leaders” of the conservative movement. The forces of the Left are now virtually unchallenged and unchecked.

While occasional lip service has been paid to America’s founding principles, there has been little action to back up those meager words. The abandonment of the clear principles of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution by our political elites is nearly total.

We believe that American conservatives are potentially the most powerful political force in our country and in the world at large. Unfortunately, in recent decades that potential has been dissipated through poor leadership and a poorly conceived and corrupted process.

And so, we have set out to build a new structure for principled conservatism in this country, before it’s too late. With little in the way of funding, almost exclusively through true citizen-led grassroots action, America’s Independent Party has made great progress in the six months since it was founded. We now have affiliates in all fifty States and in the District of Columbia. AIP is already the third-largest party in America based on voter registrations, primarily because of the recent affiliation of California’s American Independent Party with the national party. Voters in Florida can now register AIP as well.

However, while we continue our efforts to gain legal recognition and ballot access for our new state parties, our main organizational thrust is to invite individual Americans who agree with our party platform to sign a Personal Affiliation Agreement, one that is thoroughly grounded in principle, and that is made without regard to existing party registration.

Endorsements and nominations of all candidates for public office will also be made on the basis of proven adherence to the conservative tenets of our platform, not on the basis of party affiliation.

As principled Independents, we intend to change America’s political culture by example. We are determined to heed our last Independent President, George Washington, and his sage advice concerning the dangers of party factionalism. Following his example, we aspire to be partisans only of what is right. American politics must be reset on its principled foundation. We believe that, in order to truly succeed, we must be unswervingly principled, not merely partisan.

Our motto and attitude is also Washington’s: “Let us raise a standard to which the wise and honest can repair; the rest is in the hands of God.” While we may not be able to control outcomes, we can certainly control our own actions and activities day by day, and trust God for the results.

The purpose of America’s Independent Party is the same as the stated ultimate purpose of the U.S. Constitution: “To secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.”

Along with the signers of the Declaration of Independence, we believe in the self-evident truth that all men are created equal, that our unalienable rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness come from our Creator, and that just government can only exist by the consent of the governed. We call these Declaration principles “America’s Principles.”

Like President Ronald Reagan, we fiercely defend the personhood of the unborn, and the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendment protection of the lives of all innocent persons from the moment of fertilization, the very beginning of biological development, until natural death. We are unbending advocates for the protection of the natural family and marriage between one man and one woman as the God-given institutional basis for our civilization.

Also like Reagan, we firmly support a foreign policy of Peace through Strength. We support our troops and our veterans. We demand secure borders, a strict adherence to the rule of law when it comes to immigration policy, and the uncompromising protection of the sovereignty of the American people. We will always remember 9-11-2001, when America was attacked, the towers fell, and America’s heroes, average citizens, gave their lives to save others.

We are completely committed to free enterprise and economic liberty and have a practical plan to restore economic prosperity. Our goal is the return of control over financial and material resources to the individual citizen, to the household, and to the community, through fundamental governmental, monetary, and tax policy reform. This, we believe, is the true basis for real economics, and the only hope for true material prosperity and security for our children and grandchildren.

We believe that while we already have the best party platform in America, it will get even better as the innovative political process we are creating takes hold. Using the means we are developing, which come out of decades of experience fighting in the political trenches, we are recruiting, training and equipping a new generation of leaders – patriotic men and women who will courageously act to implement those principles.

We have made a commitment to no longer allow our political franchise, efforts, and resources, to be used to forward the careers or self-serving agenda of those who compromise America’s Principles in any fashion. This nation will not be turned around, in our view, until a critical mass of conservatives begin to take this principled stand, without compromise. America’s Independent Party is putting in place a system in which principle always come first.

Our nation’s political leaders have failed, because they have abandoned America’s Principles. A DEDICATED, ORGANIZED, UNITED conservative movement, made up of, and led by, average citizens, is, we believe, the only hope for saving America from the inevitable results of those failures. We must have a true revival of republican self-government, led by men and women animated by the same principles and the same faith as the founders of this country. History proves, beyond a shadow of a doubt: AMERICA’S PRINCIPLES WORK when the people put them into practice.

Some people in American politics, even those who are known as conservatives, may maintain an appearance of wisdom when they counsel so-called “pragmatism” that compromises principle. But, in fact, they are not truly practical at all; they are merely short sighted. Their actions are actually very destructive. Doing right is always the true road to true success over the long haul. Jesus Christ asked the question, “What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his own soul?” But, He also said, “Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things will be added unto you.” The difference is in motives and priorities. What ultimately matters is what you put first.

We believe that America’s Independent Party provides the principled AND the practical vehicle for individuals, families and communities to govern themselves effectively. Only the people themselves, with God’s help, can save America. AIP is all about serving that purpose.

The party is being constructed, painstakingly, from the bottom up, person by person. We are already focused heavily on education, communications, organization, and beginning the task of recruiting and equipping future candidates for public office.

If you believe as we do, we hope you will act decisively and quickly in support of our efforts. What we are doing is comprehensive in scope, and will require a high level of commitment from many people, in terms of time, energy and money. The sooner we can assemble the appropriate resources, the sooner we can get America’s Independent Party built.

The Republican Party has failed. The evidence is plain for all to see. Suffice it to say that if you think the GOP is doing fine, you probably won’t see the need for America’s Independent Party. But, if you agree with us that a radically new approach is desperately needed, please help.

While it would be impossible to detail everything here, I am always available to answer any questions you have. I work very hard to respond to every email. If you would like to have a phone conversation, please include your phone number in your email and I’ll get back to you quickly.

You can reach me here, at any time: Contact@aipnc.com

Here is an overview of some of the key components of America’s Independent Party.

AIP: The principled meets the practical

Platform

The approved AIP platform can be viewed at AIPNEWS.com.

Our party constitution and platform are based solidly on the bedrock of America’s founding principles and Reagan conservatism. Our platform process in the years ahead will be an extensive one, starting at the precinct caucus level and culminating in election year state and national conventions. At every level of the organization we are instituting, organizing, and encouraging many means of open debate and intense discussion of core principles, political philosophy, and the development of policies that will work for America in the years ahead.

Personal Affiliation

AIP’s Personal Affiliation Agreement can be viewed at AIPNEWS.com.

If you haven’t affiliated yet, we would like to urge you to do so today. Just fill out the form and click “Affiliate.”

This Agreement is first of all our sentinel at the door. A very high level of personal commitment to the Constitution and to the defense of innocent human life is needed to sign.

It is also our party’s plumb line. If Affiliates begin to take actions in the political arena that violate the agreement, the party will take immediate steps to disaffiliate them. One of the key reasons for the failure of the Republican Party is the complete lack of such necessary party discipline.

The Affiliation Agreement is also the mortar that holds the whole national party together. The maintenance of one central database allows us to react quickly with real personal local contact when someone signs up. It allows our party leaders at every level to know exactly where things stand. And it helps us with the constant flow of information needed to make a national party run efficiently and effectively.

Communications

Our primary communications hub is being built at AIPNEWS.com.

Not only are we creating an ongoing primary news source for our people, we are providing them with an outlet to create news themselves and report on anything that affects the party or our agenda. The site is still being built, one step at a time, but already it is showing the signs of being extremely successful in terms of readership and participation. Many important and useful upgrades are planned as resources become available.

AIPNEWS.com is also the hub for our overall database and provides ready-made pages to every new Affiliate, fully linked into the whole system and the whole country. As Affiliates build subsidiary sites they can then also be fully linked into the central hub. It is designed to potentially become the home of millions of members and hundreds of thousands of Affiliates. It’s also very fast and very secure.

We discovered long ago that the so-called “mainstream” media is not our friend. That’s why our goal is to BECOME THE MEDIA, by every means we can devise. And every day, our people are getting better and better at it.

America’s Forum, which also finds its home at AIPNEWS.com, is one of the tools we will be using to help.

AIP Structure/America’s Caucus

America’s Independent Party is being organized according to unique organizing principles and structure. It will be a truly citizen-led grassroots process with a predominately local emphasis. Except in those rare instances when state laws force us to do otherwise, we will not be holding state-run primaries. Our entire process of nominating AIP candidates will be done through caucuses and conventions.

These are the various levels of Permanent Caucuses and Committees that are being built within AIP:

· Precinct Caucuses
· County Committees
· District Caucuses
· State Parties
· National Convention Delegations
· National Executive Committee

America’s Caucus will be the online tool for operating our permanent local caucuses, educating, equipping and training our people to run their local organizations, and fully vetting candidates for public office prior to the physical caucuses and conventions which will occur in election years.

Multiple means of establishing accountability and checks and balances between all the levels of the party are being established in the national bylaws.

CAN-DO-USA

The “Conservative Action Network, Dedicated, Organized and United to Save America”

CAN-DO-USA is the umbrella group for our planned national and state issues affiliates. While the party itself is a structure, the issues affiliates are networks. By activating these networks, we intend to pull together the various issues activists whose primary interests are in specific areas, such as: pro-life, pro-family, border security, governmental reform, tax reform, property rights, Second Amendment rights, homeschooling, small business, veterans, etc.

Several dozen of these organizations are ready to be rolled out as the resources become available to do so.

Administration

AIP is designed to be extremely lean and efficient, both at the national and the state levels. All the work will be done either by volunteers, contract labor, or in some limited circumstances, by vendors, when we absolutely can’t get all the work done in house. This is one of the ways that AIP will avoid debt. Our policy is to always operate on a cash basis, except under highly exceptional circumstances.

Currently, our accounting, banking, and FEC compliance operations are being run out of our main administrative office in Fenton, Michigan, under the direction of the national party treasurer, Judy Zabik, and her husband, national party secretary Bob Zabik. In addition to their stellar professional credentials, and Bob’s record as a decorated Vietnam vet, the Zabiks have been very active in the pro-life movement for several decades. Their reputation for integrity is well-known, and their commitment to the wise use of every dollar received from donors is beyond question to those who know them.

Primary political operations are being run from Iowa by national chairman Tom Hoefling.

Plans are also being made for shared West Coast political offices with our California affiliate, the American Independent Party, in Sacramento, under the leadership of Markham Robinson, who is both the California AIP chairman and the national vice-chairman.

Our primary technical team is located in Redding, California, and is operated by the national party’s technical director, Marc Nettleton.

Extensive use is being made of conference calling, live video streams, phones, email and websites to pull the whole national organization, both leaders and rank and file AIP Affiliates, together on a regular basis.

While the newly formed state parties are independent and will be making their own business decisions, all are being urged to follow the national model of efficiency and service-orientation.

Fundraising

Our primary means of fundraising is internet-based, and operates on the technical infrastructure provided by AIPNEWS and our other websites. Our expectation is that the preponderance of this support will come from those who have personally affiliated with AIP and believe in our mission.

We will also depend on our finance committee to provide a portion of our budget through the solicitation of high-dollar donors who believe in our cause and understand the value of the work we’re doing.

We will also conduct direct mail and email operations to help get our message out, point conservatives to our websites, and to build our organizational and fundraising base of support.

Our organizational affiliates will be responsible for their own fundraising, accounting, administration and compliance. However, they will have the ability to raise money for their own organizations on their pages at AIPNEWS. In accordance with the national party bylaws, their pages will of course be required to have the appropriate links back to the national party.

AIP’s initial projected budget for 2009 is approximately $2.5 million dollars. A bit over half of that is to be used for party-building efforts. Just under 25% will be for administration costs, including technical infrastructure. The rest will cover fundraising and associated mailing costs.

We expect our budget needs to at least double every year for the foreseeable future to keep pace with party growth.

Conclusion

The leadership of America’s Independent Party is totally committed to this long-term effort to put America back on its principled foundation and save our constitutional form of self-government under God. We will continue the fight to secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, no matter what.

With your generous help we know we can do it more effectively, and build AIP much more quickly.

May God richly bless you and your family throughout the coming year!

For Life and Liberty,

Tom Hoefling
Chairman, America’s Independent Party
contact@aipnc.com


228 posted on 01/21/2009 10:36:48 AM PST by EternalVigilance (God is watching and listening.)
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To: The Mayor

Bumperoo.


229 posted on 01/21/2009 1:34:04 PM PST by roaddog727 (BS does not get bridges built - the funk you see is the funk you do)
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To: MeekOneGOP

I have a nickname for the new first lady.

Hugh Jazz.


230 posted on 01/21/2009 6:00:01 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: screaminsunshine

I agree, to a point.

In what direction will the new movement go?

IMHO the American People are fed up with insane govenment spending, political corruption, earmarks, out of control illegal immigration, corrupt elections, special interests groups including lobbyists, taxes, taxes, and taxes.

The problem I see is that the hardcore conservative Republican movement is more concerned with who is the purest evangelical Christian than with who is a constitutional Conservative/libertarian/constructionist.

As an example consider Huckabee telling his evangelical RINO flock to give their votes to McCain in the primaries so that a small government fiscal conservative Romney who wasn’t evangelically “pure” enough wouldn’t get the nod. BTW, I’m not a Mormon.

I see no hope for the future. The Dems will give amnesty, fast track citizenship in key states, and pay off the unions to lock up votes. Thanks to Jorge Bush the window of opportunity to close the borders and at least keep the votes close is over.


231 posted on 01/21/2009 9:15:30 PM PST by Tailback
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

bump!!


232 posted on 01/21/2009 10:28:13 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (Obama, WHO is Bill Ayers and WHY are you still friends with him? Please RSVP asap!)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
** Hugh Jazz. **

- - - - - - -

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA !!! :^D

233 posted on 01/21/2009 10:33:58 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (Obama, WHO is Bill Ayers and WHY are you still friends with him? Please RSVP asap!)
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To: Tailback

Small government. Very small.


234 posted on 01/21/2009 11:09:37 PM PST by screaminsunshine (.)
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To: The Mayor

Agreed.


235 posted on 01/22/2009 7:44:36 AM PST by victim soul
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To: Pelham
....Limbaugh didn’t begin his political radio career until 1988,....

Thank you for the correction. I admire Rush (et al) for his incredible commercial success in offering those who need no convincing blinding glimpses of the obvious.

Ronald Reagan was an articulate spokesman for common sense and patriotism and convinced many traditional Democrats to vote Republican. The effect, now w/o articulate spokesmen, those whom he was able to convert have apparently slid back to their default political convictions. The talkers have had '0' effect on this.

However, I reserve my greatest scorn for those "Republicans," who could not make it off the couch and over to the voting booth. With turnout hovering around 50%, we are never going to make it.

236 posted on 01/22/2009 10:59:10 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Obama campaigned in Kenya for Jihadist Church-Burner Odinga. Didn't McCain know?)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
seems like it is all endless cycles.

party out of power has to work harder, wins the day, than they have the power, the people grow weary, throw em out.

repeat repeat repeat

Except that with each repeat of the cycle, the center of gravity moves a little further left. There is no "right wing" in this country, or anywhere on earth for that matter. There is national socialism only, to varying degrees.

It is obvious that we failed to purge the communist rabble from our country after WW2, Joseph McCarthy's efforts notwithstanding. The culture has been completely overtaken by propagandists and leftist partisans.

Ronald Reagans' biggest mistake was his failure to abolish the Department Of Education, one of his campaign planks in 1980. I daresay things would be quite different had we not paid psychopaths like William Ayers and fellow travelers to teach our children about the glories of communism and the hatred of America for 30 years.

Now we eat the bitter fruit of failing to act in a manner consistent with what we say we believe. We have seen this day approaching, we have warned against it; now it is here.

237 posted on 01/22/2009 3:27:23 PM PST by ecomcon
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To: ecomcon

..I agree with yer on two points. Nationalism and Socialism combined. President Reagan did not fail, his policiy on this issue did not have the time to be implemental...

...I do believe that the circle will be unbroken, maybe not in my lifetime. One step, one day, the journey to get there, is what keeps me alive...


238 posted on 01/22/2009 6:44:50 PM PST by gargoyle (...Don't bring shotguns to UFO landings, let the aliens land, they might be here to pick me up...)
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To: Kenny Bunk

“those whom he was able to convert have apparently slid back to their default political convictions. “

Or many may have simply passed away and it’s a younger cohort that has pulled elections leftward. Keep in mind it’s been 28 years since “the Reagan Democrats” came out in force for Ronnie.


239 posted on 01/22/2009 10:40:56 PM PST by Pelham (Mexifornia. It's your future.)
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To: Rockitz

How do we get these changes by the next presidential election?

We have to change the way the republicans pick their candidate!

If we don’t, we will not win an election.

We have to get candidates that the base will support, unlike McCain.


240 posted on 01/23/2009 10:34:30 AM PST by luckystarmom
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