Do we stop training our special ops guys now?
Since we are “torturing” them with the same methods?
Holder and his Commie ‘RATS wouldn’t know “torture” if it jumped up and bit them on the ass. They’re a bunch of girlymen. To them, losing an election or not getting a government bureaucrat job is “torture.”
These guys just talk too much...they are going to walk us all right into trouble. Ignorant.
So is this the way that obama can prosecute the previous administration for war crimes without taking responsibility?
“amounting to an admission that the United States may have committed war crimes, opens the door to an unpredictable train of legal and political consequences.”
That ship has already sailed. They’ve been saying it for years, and we’ve been pilloried world wide as a result.
The part that really gets me PO’d is these idiots claim that US servicemen captured by terrorists are butchered by their captors because we committed the “war crime” of waterboarding a few high-ranking terrorists to gain vital information. They really seem to think that our service people would be treated according to the Geneva Conventions if only we weren’t “torturing” terrorists. It’s hard to believe even the most anti-American leftists could be so stupid, and I don’t think they believe their own lies.
What Obie says publicly, and what his puppet-masters want, are the exact opposite.
And IMO if the KR used it, it's torture (although it probably was the least physically damaging routine in the KR torture repertoire).
Nonetheless, that doesn't mean that waterboarding should never be used. I think employing it against murderous psychopaths like Kahlid Sheik Mohammad and Ramzi Binalbish was an appropriate use of torture.
COMRADE POTUS MUZZIE HUSSEIN basically told his lapdog press corp that they all would be out of jobs if they didn't realize that all of us make mistakes like his Treasury Secretary GEITHNER.
Apparently, Holder must be extremely talented at blackmail.
WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND.
I, personally, am having a hard time believing the Obama “administration” is walking toward disaster with no consideration for the political consequences.
Scenario: Obama closes Gitmo (or starts too), does away with so called “torture”, ties the hands of the CIA/FBI as far as fact gathering and wire tapping. Then we’re attacked. Who exactly is going to take the political fallout? It won’t be Bush on this one. The average American is not against methods to extract info, or gather info...that’s why Bauer is so popular on TV, he does what needs to be done. Obama will take the blame squarely if we are attacked.
It almost makes me believe that Biden was talking about specifically this situation when he mentioned low poll numbers as a result of Obama’s actions in the context of impending attack. They are planning to dismantle these things, knowing full well there will be political fallout once an attack occurs. So my question is, why do it?
“We prosecuted our own soldiers for using it in Vietnam,” Holder said. “Waterboarding is torture.”
From “Characters of the Inquisition” by William Thomas Walsh, TAN Books, 1987; orig. published 1940 (p. 169-170, Chapter V, ‘Torquemada’):
The method that Torquemada substituted for the more barbarous ones of the Renaissance was known as ‘the water cure.” The reo, if he refused to clarify the contradictions in his testimony, or was strongly suspected of withholding important information, was stretched naked and tied with cords upon a very forbidding-looking escalera, or ladder. His nostrils were stopped, his jaws held apart by an iron prong, and a piece of linen placed loosely over his mouth. Into this cloth water was slowly poured, carrying it into the throat. This gave him the fear, and some of the sensations, of suffocation, without allowing him to suffocate. If he squirmed, the cords hurt his wrists and ankles. If he proved very stubborn, one of the familiares might give them an extra twist or two. This must have been a very painful and harrowing experience. Yet it seldom did lasting harm, and it often obtained confessions. On the other hand, it sometimes made the innocent confess. Torquemada assumed that the Inquisitors would seek to avoid injustice in this connection by checking the confessions with known facts. Probably the torture was no more dangerous or disagreeable, all things considered, than certain modern police methods: such as keeping a man awake under a strong light, and having him questioned by relays of detectives for an indefinite number of hours. At least it was an advance over the cruder expedients of the fourteenth century.
Leftists NEVER consider the consequences of their actions, as long as it meets their needs at the time, and it makes them “feel better.”
Mark