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What is it with Hussein and terrorists?
1 posted on 01/14/2009 9:20:25 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Hussein gives them a pass just as he has been given one in the MSM.........the man has to cover his tracks you know/sarc


2 posted on 01/14/2009 9:25:40 PM PST by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Good Morning Mr & Mrs Scooter and All The Ships At Sea)
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To: Libloather

Exactly how is it that the wife of the President who pardoned these terrorists isn’t catching any flak?


3 posted on 01/14/2009 9:25:54 PM PST by Dahoser (America's great untapped alternative energy source: The Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: Libloather

The American people need to rise up and scream

It is CLEAR that Obama was endorsed and supported by someone who, along with his group, planted bombs that killed Americans here with the intent that they overthrew the government

Now, We have the imposition of people in power, through apppointment, of people who supported other acts of terrorism, like Holder

We just had a revolution, folks, and it happened without a shot

Our system of government just ended, and it is being replaced by Obama and the dems


4 posted on 01/14/2009 9:29:35 PM PST by RaceBannon (We have sown the wind, but we will reap the whirlwind. NObama. Not my president.)
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To: Libloather

He’s disgusting and sick just like they are. It makes me puke just to think what joy he and his minions are getting out of seeing people suffer.


5 posted on 01/14/2009 9:49:54 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Libloather
Re: Eric Holder, Obama's pick for Attorney General...

From David Horowitz's FrontPageMag.com/DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
PROFILE: ERIC HOLDER

(note that this is just an excerpt on one issue. The linked piece addresses all of Holder's record)

Holder and the Pardon of FALN Terrorists:

Holder was also intimately involved in President Clinton's August 11, 1999 pardon of 16 members of the FALN, acronym for the Armed Forces of National Liberation—a violent terrorist organization (as designated by the FBI) that was active in the U.S. from the mid-1970s through the early 1980s.

The FALN was a Marxist-Leninist group whose overriding mission was to secure Puerto Rico's political independence from the United States. Toward that end, between 1974 and 1983 the group detonated nearly 130 bombs in such strategically selected places as military and government buildings, financial institutions, and corporate headquarters located mainly in Chicago, New York, and Washington DC. These bombings were carried out as acts of protest against America's political, military, financial, and corporate presence in Puerto Rico. All told, FALN bombs killed six people—including the Chilean ambassador to the United States—and wounded at least 80 others.

On April 4, 1980, eleven FALN members were arrested in Evanston, Illinois. More of their comrades would also be apprehended in Chicago in the early 1980s. All were charged with seditious conspiracy, but they refused to participate in their own trial proceedings—claiming defiantly that the U.S. government was an illegitimate entity and thus had no moral authority by which to sit in judgment of them. All the defendants were found guilty and were sentenced to federal prison terms ranging from 35 to 105 years.

On November 9, 1993, a self-identified "human rights" organization named Ofensiva '92 filed a petition for executive clemency on behalf of 18 members of the FALN and another violent organization seeking Puerto Rican independence, Los Macheteros ("The Machete-Wielders"). According to a December 12, 1999 report issued by the House Committee on Government Reform, the prisoners themselves "refused to take part in any process that would legitimize the government's actions against them, therefore they refused to file their own petitions."

This presented a problem because the Department of Justice (DOJ) traditionally stipulates that clemency will be considered only if a prisoner first files a petition on his or her own behalf, an act which the Department views as a sign of contrition. Nonetheless DOJ made an exception in this case and accepted Ofensiva '92's petition, a document which cast the FALN prisoners as blameless freedom fighters analogous to those Americans who had fought in the Revolutionary War against Britain.

Among the notables who joined Ofensiva '92's clemency crusade were Cardinal John O'Connor, Coretta Scott King, Jimmy Carter, and the National Lawyers Guild. Perhaps the most passionate support came from Democrat Representatives Luis Gutierrez (IL), Jose Serrano (NY), and Nydia Velazquez (NY), each of whom echoed Ofensiva '92's claim that the FALN members were "political prisoners" who deserved to be released.

The attorneys and advocates who were fighting for the freedom of the FALN prisoners first met with the Justice Department's Pardon Attorney on July 19, 1994. In October 1996 they met with Jack Quinn, Counsel to the President. They were unsuccessful, however, in their efforts to convey the legitimacy of their cause to the Office of the Pardon Attorney (OPA), which in 1996 contacted the Justice Department and recommended against clemency; that recommendation, in turn, was forwarded to the White House.

But the matter was not over; OPA continued to meet with groups and individuals lobbying for clemency on behalf of the FALN terrorists. Then in 1997, Eric Holder -- who was President Clinton's new Deputy Attorney General (in the Justice Department headed by Janet Reno) -- became involved in the case.

In this role, Holder was responsible for overseeing clemency investigations and determining which of those requests were ultimately worthy of President Clinton's attention. As evidenced by a September 1997 memorandum from the Pardon Attorney, the Justice Department was, at this point, receiving numerous inquiries about the FALN and Macheteros—from the White House and from supporters of the prisoners. The aforementioned House Committee on Government Reform report stated: "Throughout the closing months of 1997 it appears that Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder was active in the issue. The privilege log reflects at least two notes regarding his questions on the clemency or his thoughts on the matter."

On November 5, 1997, Holder met with Representatives Gutierrez, Serrano, and Velazquez to discuss the clemency issue. He advised the legislators that they might greatly increase the likelihood of a presidential pardon if they could convince the prisoners to write letters testifying as to the personal remorse they felt for their past actions. But no such letters would be produced for five months, during which time the clemency issue remained on hold. Meanwhile, in a January 6, 1998 letter a senior Justice Department official expressly referred to the FALN members as "terrorists."

Then on April 8, 1998, Holder again met with FALN supporters. This time, they finally delivered statements from the prisoners as Holder had advised in November. But all the statements were identical—indicating that not one of the prisoners had made an effort to craft his own personal expression of repentance.

Undeterred, Holder then raised the question of whether the prisoners might at least agree to renounce future violence in exchange for clemency. One of the prisoners' backers, Reverend Paul Sherry, made it clear that they surely "would not change their beliefs"—presumably about the issue of Puerto Rican independence—but was vague as to whether they were apt to eschew violence altogether.

Over the next few weeks, Holder and the Justice Department continued to meet with numerous advocates of clemency and to review pertinent materials which the latter brought forth on behalf of the prisoners. Holder clearly was the point man for these clemency negotiations. As Brian Brian Blomquist wrote in the New York Post, "A list of FALN documents withheld from Congress shows that many memos on the FALN clemency decision went directly to Holder, while [Janet] Reno's role was minimal." Similarly, New York Daily News reporter Edward Lewine wrote that Holder was "the Justice Department official most involved with this issue."

Throughout the clemency review process, neither Holder nor anyone else in the Justice Department contacted any of the people who had been victimized (or whose loved ones had been victimized) by the FALN. Most were never aware that clemency for the terrorists was even being contemplated. And those few who were aware of the possibility were rebuffed in their efforts to participate in the review process.

On May 19, 1998, the Pardon Attorney sent Eric Holder a 48-page draft memorandum "concerning clemency for Puerto Rican Nationalist prisoners." Seven weeks later, on July 8, Holder sent President Clinton a "memorandum regarding clemency matter." Indeed the Deputy Attorney General was methodically spearheading the march toward clemency -- despite the fact that the sentencing judges, the U.S. Attorneys, the Federal Bureau of Prisons, the Fraternal Order of Police, and the FBI were unanimous in their opposition to pardoning the individuals in question.

In late July 1999 an attorney from Holder's office spoke to White House Counsel Charles Ruff regarding the clemency matter. On August 9, 1999, Holder's office and OPA held one final meeting to hammer out the details, and two days later the President made his announcement: clemency was granted to sixteen terrorists, most of whom had served only a fraction of their prison terms. Of the sixteen, twelve accepted the offer and were freed, two refused it, and two others, who already were out of prison, never responded.

Congress, for its part, was not pleased—condemning the clemencies by votes of 95-2 in the Senate and 311-41 in the House.

In the aftermath of August 11, 1999, a report by the Justice Department stated that the FALN posed an "ongoing threat" to national security. And in late October 1999 the Senate Judiciary Committee released a report from Attorney General Janet Reno stating that the FALN members' "impending release from prison" would "increase the present threat" of terrorism.

In an October 20th Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, and again with reporters the following day, Eric Holder denied that Reno was referring to the same FALN terrorists whose pardons he had worked so long and hard to secure. Yet when Holder was asked to identify whom Reno was in fact talking about, he responded as follows:

"I don't know, no, I don't know that. We might be able to get you some more information on that, but, I mean, you know, there were certain people who are due to be released, or who were at least eligible for parole, had a release date in the next, as I said, three, four years. I don't know exactly who they were. Maybe—we might be able to get you that information."

Neither Holder nor the Justice Department ever provided any additional names. The December 1999 House Committee on Government Reform report stated:

"The 16 [FALN] terrorists appear to be most unlikely candidates. They did not personally request clemency. They did not admit to wrongdoing and they had not renounced violence before such a renunciation had been made a quid pro quo for their release. They expressed no contrition for their crimes, and were at times openly belligerent about their actions…. Notwithstanding the fact that the 16 did not express enough personal interest in the clemency process to file their own applications, the White House appeared eager to assist throughout the process. Meetings were held with supporters, and some senior staff [i.e., Holder] even suggested ways to improve the likelihood of the President granting the clemency. Overall, the White House appears to have exercised more initiative than the terrorists themselves."

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2357

6 posted on 01/14/2009 9:49:54 PM PST by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: Libloather
What is it with Hussein and terrorists?

Like Bill Ayers and the Weather Underground, the FALN were Marxist-revolutionary terrorists.

7 posted on 01/14/2009 9:51:26 PM PST by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: Libloather

“GOP lawmakers have indicated they expect to approve Holder”

WHY??? This is ridiculous. When will the Republicans get a backbone?


8 posted on 01/14/2009 9:54:44 PM PST by Humal
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... Clinton said in 1999 his clemency decision was influenced by South African Archbishop Desmond Tutu and former President Jimmy Carter. At the time, the government said none of those whose sentences commuted was directly responsible for deaths or injuries. That was disputed by Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, who then led the Judiciary Committee. Republicans complained that under today's sentencing guidelines, the prisoners would have been sentenced to 30 years to life.
In newly disclosed documents, first reported by the Los Angeles Times last week, then-U.S. pardon attorney Roger Adams expressed concerns that the department's recommendation raising the possibility of clemency would become publicly known. "It is particularly important that the proposed report be kept on very close hold," Adams wrote in August 1998 to Kevin Ohlson, who was Holder's chief of staff. "A 'leak' of the proposed report would be disastrous."

Translation: "screw the American people, keep them in the dark."

9 posted on 01/14/2009 10:35:55 PM PST by piasa
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To: Libloather; Cindy
This incident :

OCTOBER 22, 1981 : (NY : REPORT : ROBBERY OF BRINKS TRUCK INVOLVES THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND, THE BLACK LIBERATION ARMY, AND FALN...--see WUO AYERS, DOHRN) Authorities investigating a bloody Brink's robbery yesterday [Oct 22, 1981] revealed new links between radical groups. Col. Clinton L. Pagano, superintendent of the New Jersey State Police, said that evidence found during a search of an East Orange, N.J., apartment linked to the robbery "indicated that the persons who occupied the apartment were involved with the Black Liberation Army and the Weather Underground .
He said evidence found in the apartment, combined with "intelligence information," has led investigators to believe "that these two groups have merged into a single group." (snip)
Pagano said evidence found in the New Jersey apartment "is not only being analyzed for connection with the Brink's robbery and murders, but also to establish a tie to the escape of Joanne Chesimard."
Chesimard, a leader of the Black Liberation Army who was convicted of killing New Jersey state trooper Werner Foerster in a shootout on the New Jersey Turnpike in 1973, escaped from Clinton Reformatory, where she was serving a life sentence, on Nov. 2, 1979.
Pagano said that police searching the apartment confiscated automatic weapons, written materials, a large quantity of ammunition, numerous documents, bomb-making materials, and disguises and false identification materials. (excerpt)---------N.J. APARTMENT REVEALS LINKS AMONG RADICALS Boston Globe - October 23, 1981 Author: Associated Press 4 posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:47:58 PM by Protect the Bill of Rights | To 2

1981 : (NYACK, NY?: BRINKS ARMORED CAR HOLDUP BY BLACK MILITANTS [TERRORISTS] MURDERS TWO COPS & A SECURITY GUARD; ITALIAN DIPLOMAT'S DAUGHTER, SILVIA BARALDINI {see FALN}, IS INVOLVED ) -- New York Post 9/8/99 Editorial via ALAMO-GIRL'S DOWNSIDE LEGACY AT TWO DEGREES OF PRESIDENT CLINTON ; SECTION: BREACH OF TRUST; SUBSECTION: TERROR; Revised 1/8/01

AUGUST 1999 late : (ITALIAN DIPLOMAT'S DAUGHTER, SILVIA BARALDINI, IS SENT TO SERVE HER REMAINING SENTENCE IN ITALY - WAS THE CLINTON ADMIN TRYING TO PLACATE THE ITALIAN LEFTWING GOVERNMENT? - see FALN) "...Maybe the White House is telling the truth, after all. Maybe President Clinton's clemency offer to 16 FALN terrorists really wasn't motivated by his wife's Senate campaign. The evidence: The Clinton administration is acting as though it believes that violent terrorists just don't belong in U.S. prisons. Two weeks ago, to scant public notice, the Justice Department opened the prison gates to violent radical Silvia Baraldini. An Italian diplomat's daughter, she was sentenced to 40 years in prison in connection with several robberies carried out by black militants - including the 1981 Brink's armored-care holdup in Nyack, in which two cops and a security guard were murdered. Baraldini also has been linked to the jail break in which Joanne Chesimard - now living in Cuba - fled a New Jersey prison. And she was sentenced to an additional three years in a separate case for criminal contempt after she refused to testify before a grand jury investigating the FALN. Over the past decade, the Justice Department - citing the violent nature of her crimes - had rejected five requests by the Italian government to let Baraldini serve the remainder of her sentence in a Rome prison. This year, however, the request was granted. Why? Because the Clinton administration felt it needed to make a conciliatory gesture in order to placate Italy's left-wing government, which was angered by the bizarre acquittal last spring of U.S. Marine pilot Richard Ashby, whose low-flying plane sliced a gondola cable in the Alps, killing 20 people...." -- New York Post 9/8/99 Editorial via ALAMO-GIRL'S DOWNSIDE LEGACY AT TWO DEGREES OF PRESIDENT CLINTON ; SECTION: BREACH OF TRUST; SUBSECTION: TERROR; Revised 1/8/01

* NOTE tha this is the same month Clinton pardoned her FALN cohorts:


14 posted on 01/14/2009 11:18:48 PM PST by piasa
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To: Libloather

Tha link doesn’t go to the article anymore. It goes to a replacement soft-as-a-gentle breeze article “Holder to admit mistakes” article.


16 posted on 01/15/2009 5:46:55 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: Libloather

The hearing has started BUMP!


18 posted on 01/15/2009 6:40:28 AM PST by tiredoflaundry (Sometimes, I guess there's just not enough bags of popcorn.)
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bttt


20 posted on 09/02/2012 6:29:50 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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