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OBAMA CHURCH WATCH-56 days and counting

Posted on 12/28/2008 2:32:30 AM PST by Rome2000

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To: the invisib1e hand
Barack is a "words" guy, not a "works" guy.
All he had to do was say what people wanted to hear to get to where he wanted to be and he knew it,
The "Christians" who voted for him knew they had a candidate that supported abortion and who had only given an average of 4% of his own income to "the least of these" for 8 years.
Obama supporters made a choice of what was more important to them; their faith or their politics.
Taking a cue from Obama, they chose to throw their faith under the bus.
41 posted on 12/28/2008 5:17:23 AM PST by The Brush
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To: Rome2000

He needs to find a good racist preacher in Howrya. That way he can skip town every Sunday and hide in the middle of the Pacific when things get rough.


42 posted on 12/28/2008 5:19:01 AM PST by Dallas59 (Not My President)
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To: Rome2000

I sincerely doubt that Chicago church he attended could be correctly described as Christian...so when did he ever attend a real Christian, bible thumping church?


43 posted on 12/28/2008 5:20:31 AM PST by tioga (Merry Christmas!)
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To: Rome2000

Hussein never was a Christian. He joined Wright’s racist church solely for political reasons, and left it for political reasons. Again, solely for political reasons, he has invited Warren to his inauguration. Everything is a pose with him. He really worships himself, as shown by the obsessive gym sessions.


44 posted on 12/28/2008 5:22:30 AM PST by hellbender
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To: Rome2000

Church attendance will not be an issue in the America that Obama intends to create.


45 posted on 12/28/2008 5:23:50 AM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: tioga

Heard E.D. Hill mention this earlier today. It’s been confirmed: Jeremiah Wright’s bodyguards are Nation of Islam goons. Several Farrakhan acolytes were also in the audience for Wright’s vaudeville performance at the National Press Club, including one of our favorite race clowns, Malik Zulu Shabazz, and America’s favorite race clown politician, Marion Barry. Also in attendance: Wacknut Obama supporter Rev. Michael Pfleger:

Speaking before an audience that included Marion Barry, Cornel West, Malik Zulu Shabazz of the New Black Panther Party and Nation of Islam official Jamil Muhammad, Wright praised Louis Farrakhan, defended the view that Zionism is racism, accused the United States of terrorism, repeated his view that the government created the AIDS virus to cause the genocide of racial minorities, stood by other past remarks (”God damn America”) and held himself out as a spokesman for the black church in America.

In front of 30 television cameras, Wright’s audience cheered him on as the minister mocked the media and, at one point, did a little victory dance on the podium. It seemed as if Wright, jokingly offering himself as Obama’s vice president, was actually trying to doom Obama; a member of the head table, American Urban Radio’s April Ryan, confirmed that Wright’s security was provided by bodyguards from Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam.-Malkin


46 posted on 12/28/2008 5:24:22 AM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Rome2000

Zer0 has a several problems which include that he must (a) discard the Black Liberation Theology church (aka Temple of Hate White-America), (b) find a church that is liberal and pro-gay (which alienates his black followers), and (c) not be seen as a tool of whitey Protestantism.

I’m of course happy to see Zer0 hoisted on his own petard, since he did invite the religion criticisms by speaking in black churches and on the very topic of religion in politics.

But it’s ironic that the very thing that has nearly ruined the GOP and conservatism in America - political religion - might also contribute to Zer0’s downfall.


47 posted on 12/28/2008 5:25:46 AM PST by angkor ("All you could hope for ...in the world's most august deliberative body." - Baldwin on Franken)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

Interesting observation, especially considering he observed Halloween with his kids by going trick or treating with them.

Then again, maybe he was celebrating Reformation Day on 31Oct??? /not


48 posted on 12/28/2008 5:27:41 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: hellbender; Dallas59; GiovannaNicoletta

Ali ibn Abi-Talib, the seventh-century figure central to Shiite Islam, is said to have predicted when the world will end, columnist Amir Taheri points out. A “tall black man” commanding “the strongest army on earth” will take power “in the west.” He will carry “a clear sign” from the third imam, Hussein. Ali says of the tall black man: “Shiites should have no doubt that he is with us.”

Barack Hussein in Arabic means “the blessing of Hussein.” In Persian, Obama translates as “He [is] with us.” Thus does the name of the presumptive American president-elect, when combined with his physical attributes and geography, suggest that the End of Times is nigh – precisely what Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has been predicting.

Back down on earth, the Muslim reaction to Obama’s victory is more mixed than one might expect.

American Islamists are delighted; an umbrella group, the American Muslim Taskforce on Civil Rights and Election, opined that, with Obama’s election, “Our nation has … risen to new majestic heights.” Siraj Wahhaj, Al-Hajj Talib Abdur Rashid, the Council on American Islamic Relations, the Muslim Public Affairs Council, the Islamic Society of North America, the Islamic Circle of North America, and the Muslim Alliance in North America responded with similar exuberance.

Hamas, and Islamist movements in Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, India, Indonesia and the Philippines delighted in Obama’s election. Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch generalizes that jihadists and Islamic supremacists worldwide showed “unalloyed joy.” The New York Times finds public reaction in the Middle East mostly “euphoric.” John Esposito of Georgetown University emphasizes the Muslim world’s welcome to Obama as an “internationalist president.”....Pipes


49 posted on 12/28/2008 5:30:10 AM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet
Well, I seem to remember reading somewhere that the Obambi family did NOT believe in giving gifts to their girls and if so, I'd be curious as to why as I don't remember the specific reason or even if I got this right.

I believe I read somewhere that Muslims do not give gifts to celebrate birthdays.

I would be curious to see if the media asks Obama's kids what they got for Christmas. It should be a natural question to ask them.

50 posted on 12/28/2008 5:32:13 AM PST by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: Rome2000; All
Amazing, after all this time, most people on this site STILL don't seem to know what Black Liberation Theology is.

For anyone interested, see my FR Home page:
http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/

51 posted on 12/28/2008 5:35:58 AM PST by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: Arthur McGowan
Since Obama is a Satanist (all fanatical baby-killers are actually Satanists) no actually Christian church should want him as a member. On the other hand, it shouldn’t be difficult for him to find a Satanist church bearing a “mainstream” denomination’s name.

Yeah, baby! That's a little blunt for most folks, but it fits the general outline and the content is 100% correct. Nice work for winning the Strunk & White award of the day.
52 posted on 12/28/2008 5:44:38 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Leftist kids say the darndest things!)
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To: Arthur McGowan
hussein belongs in a mosque... a radical foot stinking satan worshiping mosque... the place of liars, thieves and murderers.

LLS

53 posted on 12/28/2008 5:44:51 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!! so sue me!)
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To: Rome2000

We have NO business being the CHURCH POLICE!


54 posted on 12/28/2008 5:45:15 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ("There is no insanity greater than electing a pathological Narcissist as president.")
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To: angkor

But Mr. Bush and Mr. Bauer found agreement on something else: both of them cited Jesus Christ when the candidates were asked to name their favorite philosopher-thinkers.

Mr. Bush said simply, ‘’Christ, because he changed my heart.’’

John Bachman, an anchor for WHO-TV in Des Moines, the sponsor of the debate, seemed surprised by the brief response and said, ‘’I think the viewer would like to know more on how he’s changed your heart.’’

To that, Mr. Bush said, ‘’Well, if they don’t know, it’s going to be hard to explain. When you turn your heart and your life over to Christ, when you accept Christ as the savior, it changes your heart. It changes your life. And that’s what happened to me.’’

Moments later, Mr. Bauer offered a fuller response in which he quoted scripture. ‘’Christ,’’ Mr. Bauer added, ‘’taught all of us about our obligations to each other, to the unborn child, to those living in poverty, the need for us to be together regardless of the color of our skin.’


55 posted on 12/28/2008 5:49:35 AM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Rome2000; All
Black Liberation Theology is MARXISM disguised as religion...

"God D*** America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11"
--Rev Dr. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor for twenty years

Wright: "In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01. White America and the Western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just 'disappeared' as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring Black concerns."

"America’s chickens... are coming home... to ROOST!"

The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine
Monday , May 5, 2008
FoxNews/Hannity's America
[special Friday night edition--original airdate May 2, 2008]

(some key excerpts)

["(Jose) Diaz-Balart is the son of Rafael Diaz-Balart y Guitierrez (a former Cuban politician). He has three bothers, Rafael Diaz-Balart (a banker), Mario Diaz-Balart (a US Congressman) and Lincoln Diaz-Balart (also a US Congressman). His aunt, Mirta Diaz-Balart, was Fidel Castro's first wife."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_Diaz-Balart]

JOSE DIAZ-BALART, TELEMUNDO NETWORK: "Liberation theology in Nicaragua in the mid-1980's was a pro-Sandinista, pro-Marxist, anti-U.S., anti-Catholic Church movement. That's it. No ifs, ands, or buts. His church apparently supported, in the mid-'80s in Nicaragua, groups that supported the Sandinista dictatorships and that were opposed to the Contras whose reason for being was calling for elections. That's all I know. I was there.

I saw the churches in Nicaragua that he spoke of, and the churches were churches that talked about the need for violent revolution and I remember clearly one of the major churches in Managua where the Jesus Christ on the altar was not Jesus Christ, he was a Sandinista soldier, and the priests talked about the corruption of the West, talked about the need for revolution everywhere, and talked about 'the evil empire' which was the United States of America."

REV. BOB SCHENCK, NATIONAL CLERGY COUNCIL: "it's based in Marxism. At the core of his [Wright's] theology is really an anti-Christian understanding of God, and as part of a long history of individuals who actually advocate using violence in overthrowing those they perceive to be oppressing them, even acts of murder have been defended by followers of liberation theology. That's very, very dangerous."

SCHENCK: "I was actually the only person escorted to Dr. Wright. He asked to see me, and I simply welcomed him to Washington, and then I said Dr. Wright, I want to bring you a warning: your embrace of Marxist liberation theology. It is contrary to the Gospel, and you need, sir, to abandon it. And at that he dropped the handshake and made it clear that he was not in the mood to dialogue on that point."

Source: The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html

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Excerpt from The American Thinker
Article:
Obama, Black Liberation Theology, and Karl Marx
May 28, 2008

Just one nugget from the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, "Instruction on Certain Aspects of the ‘Theology of Liberation': "...it would be illusory and dangerous to ignore the intimate bond which radically unites them (liberation theologies), and to accept elements of the marxist analysis without recognizing its connections with the (Marxist) ideology, or to enter into the practice of the class-struggle and of its marxist interpretation while failing to see the kind of totalitarian society to which this process slowly leads."
- (Author: Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, Prefect, now Pope Benedict XVI; written in 1984)

Understanding that black liberation theology is Marxism dressed up to look like Christianity helps explain why there is no conflict between Cone's "Christianity" and Farrakhan's "Nation of Islam." They are two prophets in the same philosophical (Marxist) pod, merely using different religions as backdrops for their black-power aims.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/05/obama_black_liberation_theolog.html

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"Their founding document [the Weather Underground's] called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonial" movements[1] to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism."..."-Berger, Dan (2006). Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity. AK Press, 95.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_Underground#cite_ref-Berger_0-0

Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity (Paperback) by Dan Berger
http://www.amazon.com/Outlaws-America-Underground-Politics-Solidarity/dp/1904859410

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From the New York Times, August 24, 2003

"they [the Weather Underground] employed revolutionary jargon, advocated armed struggle and black liberation and began bombing buildings, taking responsibility for at least 20 attacks. Estimates of their number ranged at times from several dozen to several hundred."

Article: Quieter Lives for 60's Militants, but Intensity of Beliefs Hasn't Faded
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F04E4DE1539F937A1575BC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=2

56 posted on 12/28/2008 5:50:57 AM PST by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: mware

They each received a personalized koranus.

LLS


57 posted on 12/28/2008 5:53:23 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!! so sue me!)
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To: Coldwater Creek
We have NO business being the CHURCH POLICE!

Oh, come on, sure we do.

I think the OBAMA CHURCH WATCH is a poke in the eye with a sharp stick at the socialist press and that marxist muzzie from Kenya that is about to plant the muhammadan flag in the Oval Office.

SOB has a duty to Christians to show he is one of us.

Everyday he stays away he shows the muhammadans he is with them.

He most likely will stay away until either day 57 or day 76, a multiple of the Koranically significant number 19, and then resume the Taquiya.

58 posted on 12/28/2008 5:57:39 AM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Rome2000
When you settle for a "pig in a poke", you take what you get and like it. The people that voted him in know absolutely nothing about him.

I have two German shepherds and on Christmas while at my daughters home(we gathered there for Christmas dinner) her father in law said to me that "Vice President Biden" just got a German shepherd puppy. I could not believe how proud he was when he said "Vice President Biden" I bit my tongue but almost puked. He is a Viet Nam vet and he could'nt wait to vote for Obama. He is a hunter and you should hear " how no government is going to take his guns from him". These people are'nt all together there. They talk out of both sides of their mouth at the same time.

I would have taken up some issues with him but I was in a crowd at my daughters house and did'nt want to wreck her day. (she and her husband are against Obama.)

59 posted on 12/28/2008 6:02:56 AM PST by depenzz (Get the most out of life, its not a dress rehearsal)
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To: Rome2000; All
From "45 Communist Goals":
#27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion.
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm
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Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate
Kathy Shaidle, FrontPageMag.com
Monday, April 07, 2008

In March of 2007, FOX News host Sean Hannity had engaged Obama’s pastor in a heated interview about his Church’s teachings. For many viewers, the ensuing shouting match was their first exposure to "Black Liberation Theology"...

Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages. However, in contrast to traditional Marxism, it emphasizes race rather than class. The Christian notion of "salvation" in the afterlife is superseded by "liberation" on earth, courtesy of the establishment of a socialist utopia.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=30CD9E14-B0C9-4F8C-A0A6-A896F0F44F02
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Catholics for Marx
By Fr. Robert Sirico
FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, June 03, 2004

In the days when the Superpowers were locked in a Cold War, Latin America seethed with revolution, and millions lived behind an iron curtain, a group of theologians concocted a novel idea within the history of Christianity. They proposed to combine the teachings of Jesus with the teachings of Marx as a way of justifying violent revolution to overthrow the economics of capitalism.

The Gospels were re-rendered not as doctrine impacting on the human soul but rather as windows into the historical dialectic of class struggle. These "liberation theologians" saw every biblical criticism of the rich as a mandate to expropriate the expropriating owners of capital, and every expression of compassion for the poor as a call for an uprising by the proletarian class of peasants and workers.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=460782B7-35CC-4C9E-A2C5-93832067C7CD
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From the New York Times, April 28, 2008
Reverend Wright at the National Press Club
"In the late 1960s, when Dr. James Cone's powerful books burst onto the scene, the term 'black liberation theology' began to be used. I do not in any way disagree with Dr. Cone, nor do I in any way diminish the inimitable and incomparable contributions that he has made and that he continues to make to the field of theology. Jim, incidentally, is a personal friend of mine."
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/28/us/politics/28text-wright.html?_r=1&ref=politics&oref=sloginL
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HANNITY: But Reverend Jeremiah Wright is not backing down and has not for years and in his strong stance on the teaching of black liberation theology is nothing new. He had the same things to say last spring when he appeared on "Hannity & Colmes:"

WRIGHT: If you're not going to talk about theology in context, if you're not going to talk about liberation theology that came out of the '60s, systematized black liberation theology that started with Jim Cone in 1968 and the writings of Cone and the writings of Dwight Hopkins and the writings of womynist theologians and Asian theologians and Hispanic theologians, then you can't talk about the black value system.

HANNITY: But I'm a — reverend

WRIGHT: Do you know liberation theology, sir?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html
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YouTube: Glenn Beck on Obama and Black Liberation Theology.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cA0GEV1ibY&eurl=http://maggiesnotebook.blogspot.com/2008/04/im-speechless.html

60 posted on 12/28/2008 6:04:57 AM PST by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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