Posted on 12/28/2008 2:32:30 AM PST by Rome2000
OBAMA CHURCH WATCH-56 days and counting
Will today be the day that the "I am not a muslim" breaks his self imposed estrangement from a Christian house of worship?
bump.
Politico has a story up that's sure to re-ignite the "Barack Obama is a secret Muslim!" conspiracy theories. You see, it has been a while since Obama has prayed to the Christian God inside of an official church. Since quitting Trinity United back in June in the wake of the Jeremiah Wright escapades, the Obamas have yet to settle on a new house of worship. Here's the shocking lead:
President-elect Barack Obama has yet to attend church services since winning the White House earlier this month, a departure from the example of his two immediate predecessors.
On the three Sundays since his election, Obama has instead used his free time to get in workouts at a Chicago gym.
So, has Obama forsaken Jesus in the pursuit of rock hard abs? Or does his Yoga mat double as an Islamic prayer rug? Who can say for sure? But Politico apparently seems concerned that Obama might not be setting the right example. After all, it points out, W. and Bubba both found time to hit the pews while they waited to be sworn in on their Korans Bibles.
What's the conveniently-true explanation that Barack HUSSEIN Obama is putting forth? Take it away, unnamed Obama "transition-aide":
"Because they have a great deal of respect for places of worship, they do not want to draw unwelcome or inappropriate attention to a church not used to the attention their attendance would draw."
God damn, America! Wake up! Don't you see that you've set a gym rat lose in the White House? The horror! Cover your children's eyes lest his example be followed and childhood obesity rates begin to drop faster than so many discarded moral teachings. Think of the throngs of youngsters we'll be losing while we await confirmation of the Obamas new D.C. church.
Then again, could it be that the president-elect has learned from his own mistakes and is actually out there vetting his next pastor?
Anywhere the Obamas choose to worship, observers told ABCNews.com, will likely be scrutinized for a political message. The Obama transition staff would not comment on which church the family was considering or when it would announce a decision.
Questions asked might include, does your church's preacher have any fiery sermons captured on video tape? So, here we are, stuck in limbo as we wait to learn where Obama will worship. Until then, the president-elect will keep on riding his Stair-master to Heaven instead.
Both President-elect George W. Bush and President-elect Bill Clinton managed to attend church in the weeks after they were elected.
In November of 1992, Clinton went to services in Little Rock, Ark., on the three weekends following his election, taking pre-church jogs on the first two and attending on the third weekend a Catholic Mass with the Rev. Jesse Jackson, with whom he was trying to smooth over lingering campaign tensions.
In the weeks after the contested 2000 election, Bush regularly attended services at Tarrytown United Methodist Church in Austin, Texas, and Al Gore was frequently photographed arriving at and leaving church in Virginia.
On his first day as president-elect, following weeks of Florida recounts and court hearings, Bush went to church with his wife, Laura. They attended an invite-only prayer service on Thursday, Dec. 14, at Tarrytown United Methodist Church. About 300 people attended, including top campaign staff and visiting clergy. During the service, the Rev. Mark Craig, senior pastor at Highland Park United Methodist Church in Dallas, told Bush, “You have been chosen by God to lead the people.”—Politico
if this were an “ink blot” test, I’d say, “furtive.”
Since Obama is a Satanist (all fanatical baby-killers are actually Satanists) no actually Christian church should want him as a member. On the other hand, it shouldn’t be difficult for him to find a Satanist church bearing a “mainstream” denomination’s name.
0 has probably been going to basement mosques.
More likely he has an alter built to himself at home and worships there
There is perhaps a numerological or Koranic significance to the number of days he stays away before he is allowed to once again begin deceiving the infidels by pretending to be a Christian.
Looks like he still has his leotards on just came out of the gym
This guy can't just walk into a normal Church and worship because people would get up and leave.
What is taqiyya?
The Islamic tradition of taqiyya stretches back to the sixth-century A.D. when, following disputes over succession after the Prophet Mohammed’s death, the minority Shiites developed taqiyya, or “holy deception”, to conceal their “true” beliefs from the Sunni majority and to maintain operational security for their jihad/ terrorist missions in the Dar el Haab—The Domain of War. (2)
Taqiyya is inspired by the example and sayings of the Prophet Mohammed praised in the Hadiths (the sayings of the Prophet) as “the greatest deceiver”, and praised in the Koran. Muslims have used taqiyya (pronounced tark-e-ya) described variously as “precautionary dissimulation,” “religiously-sanctioned deception,” “lying” or “deception” and “keeping one’s convictions secret” and “tactical dissimulation” or “holy deception”.
Two texts in the Koran specifically refer to taqiyya. The Prophet Mohammed, the founder of Islam reportedly said: (3)
“[H]e who keeps secrets shall soon attain his objectives ... All War is a ruse” and “Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers; if any do that, they shall have no relation left with Allah except by way of precaution ... [taqiyya] that ye may guard yourselves”. [Koran 3:28 and 40.28, emphasis added]
Early Islamic texts refer to the covert nature of taqiyya: (4)
“Al Taqiyya is with the tongue only; not the heart. A believer can make any statement as long as the ‘heart is comfortable ...”; “God gave the believers freedom of movement by takiyya; therefore conceal thyself ...”; “Takiyya is a cloak for the believer: he who has no religion has no takiyya, associate your opponents only outwardly and oppose them inwardly”.
Related terms include: protection of the secret (hifz-al sirr), secrecy (katm or kitman), deception (making something ambiguous) and hiding the real state of one’s convictions (talbis). Early Muslim sects, the Najadt and the Kharjites, referred to particular regions outside their communities as “the abode of dissimulation” (dar al taqiyya).
A contemporary definition of taqiyya is religiously-sanctioned deception for the purposes of concealing terrorism. German terrorism expert and Middle East scholar, Basam Tibi, defined taqiyya as: “You are twofaced. You hate me, but you smile at me.”
Bernard Lewis—the pre-eminent Middle East historian and scholar, Cleveland E. Dodge Professor of Near East Studies Emeritus at Princeton University—defined taqiyya in his early study of the Assassins (1090-1275), a prototypical Islamic terrorist organisation which is discussed in greater detail below. He said: (5)
“The term taqiyya, caution, precaution, denotes an Islamic concept of dispensation—the idea that under compulsion or menace, a believer may be dispensed from fulfilling certain conditions of religion ... It was used to justify the concealment of beliefs likely to arouse the hostility of the authorities or the populace.”
Taqiyya informs Shia and Sunni political and religious discourse. The Sunni Moroscos survived in Spain by using taqiyya and washing off holy water after attending mass. Cox and Marks in their monograph, The West, Islam and Islamism, note that taqiyya is referred to in Sunni religious and political discourse and cite Surrah 16: 106, about which al Atabari, the famed Sunni commentator, said: “If anyone is compelled and professes unbelief with his tongue, while his heart contradicts him, to escape his enemies, no blame falls on him, because God takes his servants as their hearts believe”. Cox and Marks also note: (6)
“Thus, in extreme circumstances, deception and lying are permitted and the end justifies the means. These doctrines can clearly provide religious justification for deliberate deception—provided that the situation is perceived as threatening, which many Islamists believe is currently the case. The doctrine [taqiyya] could apply to those, for example, who quote a peaceful or tolerant verse from the Koran to show Islam as a religion of peace but fail to mention other verses which are warlike or intolerant”.
Taqiyya is also used by many Middle Eastern ruling elites and sects, including the Yezdi, Alaawites (the present Syrian ruling family), Sabaeans and the Druze whose use of taqiyya dates back to c. 966-1021. In the harsh Middle East environment, taqiyya became a necessary protection to conceal esoteric beliefs or terrorist plans and maintain operational security.
As previously noted, the Islamic tradition of taqiyya stretches back to the sixth century A.D. when, following disputes over succession after the Prophet’s death, the minority Shiites developed taqiyya or “holy deception” to conceal their “true” beliefs from the Sunni majority and to maintain operational security for their jihad/ terrorist missions in the Dar el Haab—The Domain of War. Daniel Pipes locates the spirit of taqiyya in the Syrian Alawis (also known as the Nusayris), a Shiite sect, saying: (7)
“We are the body and other sects are but clothing. However a man’s dress does not change him. So we always remain Nusayris, even though we externally adopt the practices of our neighbors. Whoever does not dissimulate is a fool, for no intelligent person goes naked in the market”.
According to Pipes:
“Taqiyya permits a Shi’i to pray with Sunnis, even while silently cursing the Sunni caliphs, and to raise children falsely to tell strangers they are Sunnis.”
Look for POTUS MUZZIE HUSSEIN to start his church going on the 57th day after his election, 12/31/08
Muqataat
The holy Quran is the only book that has certain chapters (suras) that have specific initials - called ‘muqataat’. These initials seemed to have no meaning. Only 14 of the Arabic letters of the alphabet are used. These 14 letters are constituted into 14 different combinations. Only 29 suras have these letters on them. 14+14+29=57. 57=19x3
Bismillah - the section of the seal that refers to the name of God, is made up of ten letters in Arabic, not including repetitions, of which nine are common with the muqataat. The Arabic letter for ‘B’ is not used. 10+(10-1)=19.
Sura al qalam (68) contains a muqataat letter, ‘nun’ or ‘n’ in English. If you count how many times ‘nun’ appears in that sura, you will find there are 133 of them - 133=19x7.
Suras 50 and 42 contain the letter ‘qaf’. Sura 42 has a five-letter combination ending with qaf. Lets just look at this sura first. If we add all the ‘ha’s, ‘mmin’s, ‘ain’s, ‘sin’s and ‘qaf’s we get a total of 570. 570=19x30).
Now, let’s focus on ‘qaf’.
Suras 42 and 50 have ‘qaf’ as a common denominator. There are 57 ‘qaf’s in sura 50 and 57 ‘qaf’s in sura 42. 57=19x3. 57+57=114=19x6. Scholars think that ‘qaf’ may mean ‘Quran’, hence 114 as that are one for every sura. There is an average of one use of the word ‘god’ (Allah) for every 2.5 ayaats; if one sentence is deleted or added then this preserving system would be for nothing. This is one of the ways historians can prove the Quran remains the same as it was the day it was first written down.
> Politico has a story up that’s sure to re-ignite the “Barack Obama is a secret Muslim!” conspiracy theories.
I’ll bite: in my opinion His Excellency President-for-Life Barack Hussein Obama Dada is, like his erstwhile counterpart Idi Amin Dada, both a native born African and a muslim. I don’t have the slightest doubt, and nearly nothing he could do would persuade me otherwise.
I’ll bite: in my opinion His Excellency President-for-Life Barack Hussein Obama Dada is, like his erstwhile counterpart Idi Amin Dada, both a native born African and a muslim...........
Uganda borders Kenya-— ‘Nuff said
A good Christian would seek the Lords counsel after being elected to a job as important as POTUS, even Bill Clinton was in Church every Sunday after being elected..
HUSSEIN OBAMA'S actions since election day are nothing short of appalling.
I figure that Obama & wifey Michelle have held off announcing where they plan to worship and when this couple do say, the MSM will of course be all blathery & slathery about when & where. The no press release up ‘til now about place of worship will probably be announced a week prior to this clown’s inauguration,and as we all know they will be taking up residence@Blair House on Jan.15th,2009 ¬ earlier as they wished&so desired.0b0z0 has a ready residence in Washington,D.C. but from what I’ve heard on the DC grapevine-she won’t sleep there-@that apartment/condo because she’s NEVER been there!
It’s all timed out by the MSM isn’t it?
and then the sheeple will be appeased from pronouncements of the MSM>
Is our nation waiting expectantly to to find out where this elected FRAUD is going to worship?-of course!
one of the biggest mistakes made tho,was V.Jarett when she was talking about 0b0z0 and his taking office to “rule”.
Nobody who voted for him cares.
HUSSEIN will probably pick this one:
Outing campaign roils D.C. black Baptist church
More than 100 members named as gay in e-mails to pastor, congregation
By LOU CHIBBARO JR. | Jan 30, 2:14 PM
One of Washington’s largest black Baptist churches was rocked by a female member of its choir who sent separate e-mail messages to the pastor in December and January outing more than 100 church members as gay, mostly male choir members.
The outings added to the inner turmoil experienced by a large number of gays who attend services at the 7,000-member Greater Mount Calvary Holy Church, located on Rhode Island Ave., N.E., according to a gay former member who provided copies of the e-mails to the Blade.
“I will be leaving the choir at the top of the year because 80 percent of the tenors are homosexuals and act more like a female in choir rehearsal than I do,” the church choir member said in one of her e-mails to Bishop Alfred Owens Jr., the church pastor.
The e-mail, sent in December, identifies about 45 fellow church members as gay. She sent a second e-mail to Owens on Jan. 2 identifying another 62 church members as gay.
“The following people I am asking you to monitor very closely and my prayer is that you will sit them down from their ministries,” she told Owens in the December e-mail. “Because they are ushering in the presence of sin, lies, a spirit of homosexuality and sexual spirits.”
She sent a copy of her e-mails to a Yahoo list group that goes to more than 300 church members, the gay former church member said......
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