Those Greek Riots

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200812u/greek-riots ^ | December 19, 2008 | Robert D. Kaplan

[apro]

"No one in their right mind would start a business there and the ones that do exist spend at least 50% of their time figuring out ways to get around/avoid the government."

This is true with basically most of the Balkan region given its violent history which is why foreign investors are always weary of starting businesses there.

[apro]

the euro? more like ill-assimilation of those of the islamic faith - the ones that started all this with molatov cocktails, an excuse to destroy their host country for showing kindness as is happening throughout europe jmo

Agree with Kolokotronis on this, the Mohammedans are not the cause of what is going on over, its ethnic anti-capitalistic leftist Greeks.

"At present, the demonstrations across Greece are mainly attracting students, high-school pupils, veteran leftist campaigners and members of the so called 700-euro generation - disenchanted graduates who are unable to break through the ceiling of this nation's minimum wage.

The working and middle classes are staying away, perhaps because of the petrol bombs and tear gas.

There is neither a co-coordinated plan of action, nor a charismatic revolutionary leader."

Panos Garganas a career protestor (does one have to send in a resume in becoming a "career protestor")? LOL! He is a member of the hard left Socialist Workers' Party:

Youtube clips of rioters shows faces who are ethnic Greeks not jihadist, Exarchia the area is were the kid was killed by the policeman took place, a known hanging ground for anarchists....stop this clip at 1:50 written on walls are symbols of anarchists such as Black Bloc (who have a German origins) and the "A". At the begining of the clip is a bunch of 'yutes' hanging "street signs" with the kid's name.

[eleni121]

I can’t remember ever agreeing with Kaplan on the Balkans or in this case Greece. For an accurate and more accurate view I suggest reading Yiannis Michaletos’ excellent stuff such as this article on the riots:

http://serbianna.com/blogs/michaletos/?p=415

[blueplum]

thanks, FRiend, for your kind reply - my original comment demonstrates the (lack of) real news we are fed about the situtation in Greece/Europe, and I appreciate you telling it like it is. Greece does seem completely out of control. Would devaluation of the euro or would rejection of the euro in Greece allieviate the poverty issue? (has the euro run it’s course?) Does the answer lie in deportation of populations? What will stop the violence short of nothing left to burn except their own abodes?? This discontent seems EU-wide and contageous.

best regards, blu

[blueplum]

curses on the ‘professional protestors’ then, but I wonder who their behind-the-scenes handlers are? The absence of any clear adult leader is suspicious. the actions of the 'yoots' can only be to the immigrants' advantage, gaining them even more protection and enhancing propaganda that sharia law is the answer to civil unrest; it certainly isn't giving the 'yoots' an advantage - what advantage can possibly be attained by destroying one's own cities, burning out one's own parents' employers, and bankrupting the cities' governments?

of course, then there's the obvious, why the parents of the ‘high-school pupils’ aren't sitting on their offspring's’ heads to keep them home and off the streets, or if need be, dragging their children home behind them - perhaps easier said than done? the youth are acting like three-year-olds and Greece must quickly come to a stance of 'enough is enough' (as the other European nations must also do). I'd hate to see this escalate to the point the Greek army (or an army for hire, or of opportunity - russian perhaps?) is tapped to employ martial law-complete social lockdown- but that seems the only step the government has left - am I wrong?.

[eleni121]

Many well meaning folks really really want to believe that Greece is hellishly involved in a homegrown typical leftie riot mode.

NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH!

http://serbianna.com/blogs/michaletos/?p=415

[apro]

"curses on the ‘professional protestors’ then, but I wonder who their behind-the-scenes handlers are? The absence of any clear adult leader is suspicious. the actions of the 'yoots' can only be to the immigrants' advantage, gaining them even more protection and enhancing propaganda that sharia law is the answer to civil unrest; it certainly isn't giving the 'yoots' an advantage - what advantage can possibly be attained by destroying one's own cities, burning out one's own parents' employers, and bankrupting the cities' governments?"

Oh there are adults behind all this but they are not immigrants nor are they muslims. Such protests are common in Greece and the behind-the-scenes handlers are Greeks specially lefts and commies. Greece fought a bloody civil war after WWII between the commy lefts and government rights and it still is a bitter pill swallow between most Greeks. The rioters and people pulling the strings behind them are not muslim immigrants, they are homegrown Greek anti-capitalist anti-authoritarian anarchists and hooligans, mostly youths and students are involved behind the riots. And this is not only in Greece -capitalist anti-authoritarian anarchists and hooligans causing this kind of desturcion are found through out Europe. Parents don't do anything because its seen as a 'right of passage' or something. They are ALWAYS protesting against something in Greece, you should see how their adults protest, they can get just as violent as these 'yootes'. Its quited down since the shooting took place.