Posted on 12/25/2008 7:28:40 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
INDIANAPOLIS -- Two Indiana men filed a lawsuit claiming that President-elect Barack Obama is not eligible to serve as president.
The suit questions whether Obama meets the constitutional requirement that the president must be a "natural born citizen."
Obama's birth certificate says he was born in Hawaii, but his father was not a U.S. citizen and some have claimed the document is a fake.
The U.S. Supreme Court this month refused without comment to hear a challenge to Obama's citizenship.
The Indianapolis Star reports the Indiana suit was filed in Marion Superior Court in Indianapolis by Steve Ankeny, New Castle, and Bill Kruse, Roselawn.
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No one has seen his birth certificate. The media does not seem to understand this.
How about I pretend I’m barack Obama? I could take the oath with no proof as well.
Since the author of this piece is not shown, we can't ask her/him if she/he has actually seen a certified paper copy of Barack's long form birth certificate, aka Certificate of Live Birth. Or for that matter even a certified paper copy, with signature and raised seal, of his Certification of Live Birth.
I'd imagine not.
The hits just keep on comin!
(Leona "Queen of Mean" Helmsley: "We don't pay taxes. Only the little people pay taxes.")
Monkey see....monkey do....monkey rule...
He can make this go away........can’t he?
I'm pretty sure I saw it yesterday. Being dumped from a box into the Pacific.
I’d love to see that go somewhere.
But Satan protects his own.
Which raises an interesting question. Just suppose he is deemed ineligible. What happens?
Does Biden get in by default?
Does McCain get in by default/forfeit?
Do we have another election and keep Bush until that’s settled?
Does the Speaker of the House take over for a time?
You said — “He can make this go away........can’t he?”
Yeah, once he’s sworn in, all the court cases go away, because a court can’t do anything to Obama after that...
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So..., as I’ve proposed to several Freepers in the past, Freepers in several different states need to get a law on the books that requires the Secretary of State to require proof from a Presidential Candidate, regarding meeting the Constitutional qualifications, before he can be put on the ballot. If he can’t prove his qualifications, then he won’t be on the ballot and the state’s electors will be prevented from casting their ballots for that candidate (again, by that state law).
If we get several states to do this — this will take care of the Obama situation in the next election.
Riots. Target practice.
And those would be the least of what we would eventually see.
You said — “Which raises an interesting question. Just suppose he is deemed ineligible. What happens?”
There’s not enough time between now and the time Obama is sworn in. Once he is sworn in, a court can do nothing to remove him from office. And I wouldn’t count on the Democrats to remove him from office by impeachment either (or else someone believes in Santa Claus if they think the Democrats are going to do that...).
Yes, but I don’t want president biden, I do not want president McSenile, I do not want president nancy poopsi...this country has a serious dirth of leadership at this time! They are all bums!
You know, you might have an idea there!
A whole bunch of brave citizens could show up on Inaugural day, and say they are BHO, ready to take the oath. They could present downloaded and printed COLBs.
Could the real BHO stand up and present the real certificate?
It would probably help if they were “latte” colored, but hey, even whiteys might try.
Just late for me on Christmas day, so forgive my idiotic nonsense. We all know the SS wouldn’t let anyone close to the podium. Aren’t we in a fine fix?
When the House convenes they must accept the Electoral College votes and determine the eligibility of the candidates. Having done so they will count the EC's votes.
If any Congressman objects they can hold hearings. If they refuse to do so the Congressmen would have standing to Petition the SCOTUS to enforce the Constitution.
I told him he could be the hero if he wants.
We'll see what he does.
To answer your question though, if Hussien can't serve as President, BIDEN would become President and would appoint a VP who would be confirmed by the Senate. JH
The democrats have a lot of constitutional irons in the fire. The GOP should be raising 6 different kinds of hell over this but they don’t.
http://www.nationalpopularvote.com/
I say Kudos to these men; and all who wave this ‘red flag/warning re his citizenship; because no matter what one thinks - (I think Obama is a total fraud; by every measure)it nonetheless takes some courage to put oneself ‘out there’!
Never gonna happen. The fix is so far in it would take a colonoscopy to find it.
I didn’t think I had an idea, until I reread your response :). I’m a bit too light skinned to pass for bambi...
To eliminate the purpose of the Electoral College in one’s own state is sort of diminishing the significance of one’s state in the national vote. The other states who still keep the same Electoral College voting procedure intact — they end up gaining more *significance* overall.
So, if California split their Electoral College vote to make it like the popular vote — this would *open the door* bigtime to the Republicans in that state. That means California would *dilute* its significance on election day by doing this.
That’s why I don’t expect this to go very far with those big states. And furthermore, if the smaller states do it, then they eliminate themselves form candidates campaigning there, because it won’t be a “winner take all” situation.
The only way it works “okay” for the Democrats is if they get *all the states* to do it — at once — before the next election.
I believe it takes a congressman and a senator to object. I think in 2000 one of the congressmen did file an objection but it died as no senator went along....I’m afraid we don’t have any senators that will go along and force the issue this time. We are doomed!
suspicious fire at Jackson 5’s house today
(according to drudge)
birth certificate and all leverage the Jackson 5 family had is now gone...
dark-face make-up?
Big if.
So far SCOTUS hasn’t shown the interest or stomach for taking on such a case.
I hope they do, but I’m not holding my breath.
I concur, however with the mindset that the majority of voters are illegitimate by reason of insanity for voting for him in the first place.
Don’t be so quick to write it off. As I read it here in Michigan it creates coalitions of states that combine their electoral votes and require ALL electors to vote for the popular winner overall.
If we vote overwhelmingly republican in Michigan, but say Indiana and Ohio vote democrat, our electors go to the winner of all 3 states combined.
It passed here in the house before anyone even knew about it. 4 states have already made it law, 4 more have passed it in both houses, and 6 have already passed it in one house.
The following came from http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2154017/posts
But sources inside the White House say that Bush has mentioned several scenarios which could ultimately postpone the swearing in of President-elect Obama. (emphasis added)
This has never been explained any further.
Ohhh..., I’ll have to go back and look at that one again. I didn’t realize this very strange method that they are using. That doesn’t sound good at all.
Thanks for calling it to my attention. I haven’t seen any threads specifically about this. Have they been posted before?
too late. Plus they don’t have standing.
You are right.
The electors voted already. The only way that this could be challenged is through one Senator and one Congressman.
Oblowma is hoping that he’ll get away with being illegal—and as soon as this blows up and finally has hard evidence my friends won’t have a leg to stand on with their “you’re crazy there’s no proof” bulls@%t.
It would make more of an impact if all shades, races and genders showed up to claim to be him.
You asked — “If US citizens do not have standing, WHO does ???????? “
In practice..., no one knows and no one has been able to find out in a legal case yet...
The federal courts will not touch this because they men have NO standing.
“Man, can’t I just eat my waffel?”
I found it interesting that Obama took the time to describe ingreat detail his BC in one of his books. Sort of preemptive.
Well, God bless these new patriots of liberty. I hope in the generations to come their names are part of our history as the two who withstood the tide of evil.
Supposedly Leona never said that. It was an invention of the mind of a recalcitrant servant.
No, they’ll just be remembered as naysayers on the road to the socialist paradise the people of IN are awaiting.
These cases seem to be continuously be sprouting up. It’s great. The more cases, the better. If it goes on for a while, something will have to break.
Newspapers, get a clue. You want readers, break a big story. This might be one.
Biden. See 25th amendment
The president is above the law?
Interesting take on American democracy.
You said — “Biden. See 25th amendment”
That can’t happen from any court action after Obama is sworn in, as it’s only the Congress that can impeach and convict a President after he’s sworn in. And I don’t expect the overwhelming Democrat Congress to do that, any more than it convicted Clinton...
And there is not enough time between now and the time for swearing in Obama, for a court to do a thing, in that case listed above.
That was the whole point of putting out the forged document. It was not intended to fool anybody who actually looked at it. It was intended to provide journalists with something to REFER to in stories as a “birth certificate.”
This woman has a very good case if she could find a laywer willing to work for free. http://publish.indymedia.org/en/2008/12/918253.shtml
Hawaii Revised Statutes
HRS 0338-0020 0005.htm
(a) The department of health SHALL establish a HAWAII CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH for a person BORN IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY and child by adoptive parent or parents.
Hawaii Revised Statutes
HRS 0578-0014.htm
(b) If a NEW BIRTH CERTIFICATE... is issued, the
ORIGINAL birth certificate SHALL be SEALED.
Well, Obama’s BC WAS sealed.
Not only that but Hawaii cant just willy nilly be giving out new BC’s to foreign people and sealing the original.
You said — “If it goes on for a while, something will have to break.”
Here’s the thing with that — and these court cases. There are only a very few more days that a court can say anything. And the length of time that these cases take just for *one step* along the process — is longer than the time to Obama’s swearing in.
And once Obama is sworn in, then any court case is “moot” and it won’t rule on any issue like this, because it *then* become an issue that *only* Congress can take up. And I don’t expect an overwhelming Democrat Congress to do a thing, any more than what came out of Clinton’s mess...
All court cases are *dead* after Obama is sworn in — in terms of “removing Obama” from office.
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