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California Attorney-General turns against Prop 8
OneNewsNow ^ | December 20, 2008 | Lisa Leff

Posted on 12/20/2008 8:42:24 AM PST by IbJensen

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To: Baynative

Brown became know as moonbean because it was said he was the only governor at the time with his own space program. Brown had proposed that the state put up a communication satellite for emergencies and a statewide communication network. He was laughed at by ignorant idiots. Soon after Dukemejian came in and what did he do, put up a satellite. Of course, Duke is not looked at as crazy, just thoughful.


21 posted on 12/20/2008 9:12:05 AM PST by nufsed
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To: Sherman Logan
This is actually quite astonishing, although not at all surprising.

Our masters are displaying themselves for the first time, no longer hiding behind the veil of democracy.

Courts and government officials are openly proclaiming their right and duty to override the vote of the people, even in the form of an amendment to the very constitution from which these officials derive their power.

If this stands, it can presumably be equally applied to the Constitution of the US. That means we lose even the last theoretical potential of being able to rescue ourselves from their tyrannical misinterpretation of the Constitution by changing the document.

I wish I could disagree with this dreary analysis. Sadly, however, it is right on target.

Today's left is not the left of earlier generations--the left that believed in careful analysis and a robust national debate, as a precursor to action. No, today's left sincerely (I suppose) believes that a handful of Deep Thinkers should be entrusted with all important decisions; and if the majority of citizens--a.k.a. dimwits and yahoos--happen to disagree, well, the Enlightened Few must set them straight.

It is becoming rather depressing.

22 posted on 12/20/2008 9:13:31 AM PST by AmericanExceptionalist (Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
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To: Comparative Advantage
This “victory” eventually is going to be overturned by the state SC. And, the Prop 8 supporters will go down with but a whimper in the end. The left never gives in to its opposition.

Bingo. This will end up in the courts with a lot of liberal jibberish and it will be overturned. What will the people do? That is the question. Because if it is not challenged then they will be emboldened to go on and do further damage... like demanding that homosexual diversity be taught in the pubic schools.

23 posted on 12/20/2008 9:14:46 AM PST by BigFinn (isa 32:8 But the liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand.)
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"upon further reflection and a deeper probing into all the aspects of our Constitution..." ze vill of ze voters, vill be overturned!! Ve must restrict ze voting to zose who vill vote ze vay ve like!

24 posted on 12/20/2008 9:16:20 AM PST by Reaganesque
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To: IbJensen

What would anyone expect from the queer?


25 posted on 12/20/2008 9:16:20 AM PST by dalereed
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To: IbJensen

...yeah we can’t trust the same voters who were smart enough to elect people like me....


26 posted on 12/20/2008 9:18:47 AM PST by Tzimisce (http://groups.myspace.com/nailthemessiah)
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To: IbJensen

How sweet.


27 posted on 12/20/2008 9:24:57 AM PST by Diggity
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To: IbJensen

I think that “reflection” was either a threat or a bribe.


28 posted on 12/20/2008 9:25:08 AM PST by Txsleuth
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To: IbJensen

Does the article anywhere refer to what Californians know = he’s gay. So why the surprise he’s out to negate the people’s vote?


29 posted on 12/20/2008 9:26:16 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: SumProVita
People’s votes no longer matter?????

Not when it interferes with the bank account or comfort of a politician. Then all bets are off!

30 posted on 12/20/2008 9:26:16 AM PST by mort56
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To: Reaganesque

I am Governor Jerry Brown
My aura smiles
And never frowns
Soon I will be president...

Carter Power will soon go away
I will be Fuhrer one day
I will command all of you
Your kids will meditate in school
Your kids will meditate in school!

[Chorus:]
California Uber Alles
California Uber Alles
Uber Alles California
Uber Alles California

Zen fascists will control you
100% natural
You will jog for the master race
And always wear the happy face

Close your eyes, can’t happen here
Big Bro’ on white horse is near
The hippies won’t come back you say
Mellow out or you will pay
Mellow out or you will pay!

[Chorus]

Now it is 1984
Knock-knock at your front door
It’s the suede/denim secret police
They have come for your uncool niece

Come quietly to the camp
You’d look nice as a drawstring lamp
Don’t you worry, it’s only a shower
For your clothes here’s a pretty flower.

DIE on organic poison gas
Serpent’s egg’s already hatched
You will croak, you little clown
When you mess with President Brown
When you mess with President Brown


31 posted on 12/20/2008 9:29:29 AM PST by agooga (Struggling every day to be worthy of their sacrifice.)
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To: BigFinn
This will end up in the courts with a lot of liberal jibberish

There is precedent for liberal gibberish - Colorado amendment 2 (a measure to prevent sexual deviants form receiving legal preferred status) passed by a majority of the voters was ruled unconstitutional first by the state court. I'm still not sure a an amendment can be unconstitutional - that would make the constitution unconstitutional. Then it was pushed to the USSC where it was struck down.

In his dissent Scalia wrote [Amendment 2 is] a modest attempt by seemingly tolerant Coloradans to preserve traditional sexual mores against the efforts of a politically powerful minority to revise those mores through use of the laws. That objective, and the means chosen to achieve it, are [...] unimpeachable under any constitutional doctrine hitherto pronounced.

It doesn't matter what the vote counts were if the homos want it they will get it. Now we all get to bend over and take it!

32 posted on 12/20/2008 9:39:09 AM PST by DaveyB (A government's ability to give is proportionate to their power to take away!)
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To: nufsed
No one I know of associated "Moonbeam" with a satellite:
They associated it with his herb shaped concept of society & his own role in it.
The guy's a space cadet - what else would you call him?

However, the article does note that he's looking to future elections, and this is after all, California. He'd lose his base if he even suggested that gay marriage was wrong. Even kind of wrong, just a little bit...

While Cal pioneered the initiative process, it also has a sterling record for ignoring that process when it served the left to do so.

Finally;
marriage is not a right, no matter how often they insist that it is. It is (a) a means for civil government to regulate people, to tax them, and to count noses, and it is (b) a church rite that the church(s) should have complete control over and from which government should butt out.
There are already two 'marriages' anyway;
one filed in the court house and one affected by a religious body - and the latter isn't even required. So let the state tally up "paired units" and leave marriage to the folks who understand it.

33 posted on 12/20/2008 9:40:56 AM PST by norton
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To: norton

I was in Sacratomato at the time and I passed along my recollection of the origin.


34 posted on 12/20/2008 9:45:57 AM PST by nufsed
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To: norton
Regarding your last paragraph.

I read somewhere that people have the right to liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Some people consider being married, pursuing happiness.

I voted against the amendment because I consider it unAmerican to put restrictions of rights into the constitution.

Be the kind of American you want, as will I.

35 posted on 12/20/2008 9:48:44 AM PST by nufsed
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To: IbJensen
1. Pitch fork

2. Tar

3. Feathers

4. Rail

36 posted on 12/20/2008 10:05:14 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The tree of liberty is getting mighty dry)
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To: Sherman Logan
That means we lose even the last theoretical potential of being able to rescue ourselves from their tyrannical misinterpretation of the Constitution by changing the document.

There is one final line of defense. RKBA.

37 posted on 12/20/2008 10:20:44 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Jerry Brown is a bigger “sucker” than I imagined.


38 posted on 12/20/2008 10:23:48 AM PST by supermop
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To: BenLurkin
The switch is not surprising. Brown may clothe his repudiation of his responsibility under the cloak of a “deeper understanding of the Constitution,” but the change is entirely political. No Demoncrat with hopes of future election victories can afford to offend the homosexual lobby.
39 posted on 12/20/2008 10:30:39 AM PST by quadrant (1o)
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To: supermop

He was a disgrace as a governor, a disgrace as a mayor and is now a disgrace as an attorney genersal.


40 posted on 12/20/2008 10:35:12 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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