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To: Smogger

People passing on the left are invariably going higher than allowed limits. Either ticket speeders consistently, or raise the limit.


2 posted on 12/10/2008 8:56:11 AM PST by ConservativeMind (What's "Price Gouging"? Should government force us to sell to the 15th highest bidder on eBay?)
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To: ConservativeMind
Exactly. I have never thought this whole argument made sense. They want to start ticketing people who follow the law??
10 posted on 12/10/2008 8:59:11 AM PST by My hearts in London - Everett (Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.)
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To: ConservativeMind

No, I don’t speed, but I pass many who are going 55 in a 70 etc.

It is wrong to assume a person is speeding just because they pass somebody.


15 posted on 12/10/2008 9:00:50 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: ConservativeMind

Regardless, (and your statement is not necessarily true.) unless you are passing, you should not be in the left lane.


16 posted on 12/10/2008 9:00:52 AM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: ConservativeMind

People that pass me on the right make me the maddest!


20 posted on 12/10/2008 9:01:23 AM PST by djf (...heard about a couple livin in the USA, he said they traded in their baby for a Chevrolet...)
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To: ConservativeMind

Not always true. I’ve gotten behind people in the passing lane who were doing way under the limit and you just wish you had one of those cow catchers from an old train engine so you could ram them into the proper lane and out of your way. When people start passing on the right you know you’ve got the grand marshall in the Rose parade in the wrong lane. And you wonder why the cops are so quick to catch speeders, yet these people chug along and block traffic. /rant


24 posted on 12/10/2008 9:02:09 AM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism, it's the new black.)
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To: ConservativeMind

You do raise the other side of the issue about the left lane. I hate people who are doing the limit in the left lane because it is a passing lane. At the same time if you are doing more than the speed limit (5-10 over) you still get people riding your ass that are not using the left lane for passing either, they just want to stay in the left lane and speed even faster. Bottom line is they are not using the left lane the way it’s supposed to be - just for passing. They stay in there and think because they’re in the left lane they can speed 15-20 miles over and not somehow get or deserve a ticket.

The only time I wind up in the left lane now is when I have to take a turn or an exit on the left side.


28 posted on 12/10/2008 9:03:09 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: ConservativeMind

So what? Get out of the way. Impeding the flow of traffic is not only against the law (at least in my state), but its also very dangerous.

As for those that say “hey, I am going to go whatever speed I want in the fast lane because the other guy is speeding.” It’s not your job to enforce traffic laws. Get out of the way!


32 posted on 12/10/2008 9:04:37 AM PST by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: ConservativeMind
Was that you?

This weekend driving back from Lafayette, there was a convoy of 18-wheelers driving 65-70 in the right lane.

Then someone driving 65-70 gets into the left lane as if to pass the trucks. But doesn't cause they are driving the exact same speed as the trucks.

After 5 miles of me driving on their ass, flashing my high-beams, traffic backed up for 1/2 mile behind us, they finally manage to get ahead of the convoy and I still had to switch to the right lane to pass them.

Finally after me and about a dozen others pass on the right, the idiot moves back over to the right lane.

74 posted on 12/10/2008 9:15:40 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: ConservativeMind
>> People passing on the left are invariably going higher than allowed limits. <<

Obviously you are unaware of the multilane phenomenon known as the Iowa Flying Wedge.

Also known to be rampant in Minnesota, too.

82 posted on 12/10/2008 9:17:21 AM PST by woofer ('Senator Obama ain't run nothin' but his mouth' - Steyn)
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To: ConservativeMind

Sometimes the guy blocking traffic is going over the limit. Just not as much as those behind him want to. Sometimes the guy in front is me. I’ll be doing 68 in a 60 and some guy in a souped up Honda or a BMW M3 approaches fairly quickly. I immediately get out of the way and then follow at a relative distance and use them as a radar screen. I’ve seen several guys in front of me get tickets. One was doing over 90 in a 70 (and so was I) but by the time I passed the cop, who was coming out to get him, I had dropped my speed back to 75.

It is all a game, in the long run. I’ve passed many blockers on the shoulder. You want to do it safely though.


83 posted on 12/10/2008 9:17:56 AM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in the 1930's.)
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To: ConservativeMind

>>People passing on the left are invariably going higher than allowed limits.<<

That is simply false. I have a calibrated speedometer on my Chrysler 300. I was stuck behind a guy like this in a 60 mph zone and the guy was obviously trying to actively force the speed limit by locking it in with his car. Unfortunately, he was only doing 57.

It is also an unwritten rule in many states that the limit is not a brick wall. In washington, you generally have to be going ten over before you are ticketed, unless you already have a bad record or some other catalyst causes them to want to ticket you. I was pulled over two months ago for doing 34 in a 25. The guy gave me a warning. He almost had an apologetic attitude. Almost. But then, my record is squeeky clean and they were looking for a certain type of driver.

And yet I got a “zero point” ticket for $25 in North Dakota a few months ago for doing 84 in a 75. I saw the cop from MILES AWAY, looked at my speedometer, and thought I was doing fine. (it actually read 81). You never know.


108 posted on 12/10/2008 9:24:50 AM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in the 1930's.)
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To: ConservativeMind; MAK1179; briansb
"People passing on the left are invariably going higher than allowed limits. Either ticket speeders consistently, or raise the limit"

And people hanging out in the left lane need to be taught some manners. Get your butt over on the right or turn your keys over your children as you're obviously too old to be allowed to block the freeway.

And so long as I am not presenting a danger to you, what business is it of yours the speed I choose to drive?

Cheers,
Lloyd

119 posted on 12/10/2008 9:27:58 AM PST by Lloyd227 (Class of 1998 (let's all help the Team McCain spider monkeys decide how to moderate))
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To: ConservativeMind
I like the way the Germans do it on their unlimited speed roads. You get in the left lane. turn on your left hand turn signal, and everybody gets out of your way. In the US The speed limit plus 10% is within tolerance(well unless you are going through a small town in Arkansas then its -10%).
153 posted on 12/10/2008 9:43:08 AM PST by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: ConservativeMind

Here here.

In a two lane road - the right should be for slowpokes, entry, and exit; the left for drivers going the max speed limit. If your in the left and not going the speed limit that is fine, for example because someone is entering/exiting on the right, provided you get over when someone going the speed limit comes up on you.

Those over the speed limit and complaining are kings without clothes and should keep their mouths shut.


255 posted on 12/10/2008 11:05:06 AM PST by reed13 (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.")
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To: ConservativeMind
People passing on the left are invariably going higher than allowed limits.

Translation:
"If yer goin' faster-n-me
YER GOIN' TO G@%#$&@% FAST!!

315 posted on 12/10/2008 11:56:33 AM PST by uglybiker (1f u c4n r34d th1s u r34lly n33d 2 g3t l41d)
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To: ConservativeMind

In California we have a lot of self appointed traffic regulators that go 5 - 10 mph under the posted speed limit. This ties up traffic and creates long backups. We also have what is loving referred to as “Lexus lanes” where hybrid autos can drive in the HOV lanes with only one person on board.


320 posted on 12/10/2008 12:02:27 PM PST by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your own safety until the arrival of law enforcement officers)
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To: ConservativeMind

I take it you are one of the folks this article speaks of...

It’s common sense, and common courtesy. If you look in your rear view and you’re holding up traffic, and there is no one ahead of you, get the hell out of the way...

Do exactly the speed limit if you so wish in the right lane like you’re supposed to. People pass on the left.

Common sense...


403 posted on 12/10/2008 4:10:38 PM PST by sit-rep
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