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The Supreme Court and Obama's Citizenship - Jamie Dupree
WHIO News Talk Radio ^ | December 8, 2008 | Jamie Dupree

Posted on 12/07/2008 9:16:24 PM PST by Deepest End

The U.S. Supreme Court could announce as early as today if it will get involved in the legal battle over the birthplace and citizenship of President Elect Barack Obama. Oh, you mean you thought that had been settled a long time ago?

You must not get my email.

"Why are you not reporting on the Supreme Court case to determine if Obama is a 'natural born' citizen?" said one last week.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bc; bho; birthcertificate; certifigate; choomgang; enoughalready; getalife; lawsuit; notthisshiitagain; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile; shutuppunkobamtrolls; tinfoil
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1 posted on 12/07/2008 9:16:24 PM PST by Deepest End
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To: Deepest End

A man is elected president and their are 17 law suits brought challenging his constitutional eligibility. And no red-blooded journalist in the MSM has even the slightest interest? In my day, we would find that queer. But queer isn’t what it used to be.


2 posted on 12/07/2008 9:20:24 PM PST by fhayek
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To: fhayek

We live in bizarro-opposite world now.


3 posted on 12/07/2008 9:26:13 PM PST by bicyclerepair (Ft. Lauderdale, Florida)
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To: fhayek

Well we “ain’t” getting much help from conservative talk radio either.

Leo Donofrio should have Rush Limbaugh, Levin, Beck or Savage’s job because he has a lot more guts than all of them combined.


4 posted on 12/07/2008 9:26:46 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: bicyclerepair
Here is Gov (commerce secretary elect)Bill Richardson saying in Spanish that Obama is an "immigrant." (So he understands understands "immigrant" issues.)The context suggests that by "immigrant" bill richardson means "illegal immigrant"



Here in plain English is the Kenyan Ambassador saying that Obama is born in Kenya.


5 posted on 12/07/2008 9:30:29 PM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: Frantzie

Not sure if you ever listen to the Neal Boortz show. If you do you know that Jamie Dupree is a regular commentator on Neal’s show.

Neal is a lawyer and a libertarian. You would think that he might have something to say. But no.


6 posted on 12/07/2008 9:32:17 PM PST by Deepest End ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." - Thomas Paine)
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To: Frantzie
IF SCOTUS allows cert for Leo's case, you can count on Rush and Sean picking up the ball. Bo Snerdley will have to be contained in his joy, and Sean's staff will have to be squelched in their ire toward conservatives at FR. But for now, Freepers have the weight of our Constitution to carry.

We are being pissed on by the obamanoid goons daily. It does serve one thing though, we are getting our phrasing down to soundbyte grenades when the time comes to blow the lamestream fifth column enemedia out of the water. And we're getting a clear picture of dnc/Axelrod/Obamanoid trolls at FR, some of whom have been signed up for years!

7 posted on 12/07/2008 9:32:20 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Deepest End

I added this comment, which will likely be “moderated” out:


“…the Obama campaign did release digital copies of his birth certificate from Hawaii.”

No, they released a “Certificate of Live Birth” (there is a difference), which has been conclusively proven to be an outright forgery.

Do some real research on this issue before spewing the same ol’ 0bamatron propaganda.


Also, (s)he (dang unisex names) says: “…the guy could produce a completely legitimate birth certificate, and the same group of people who don’t believe he’s a US citizen will still believe he’s not a US citizen.”

False. The vast majority of us who are demanding the truth from 0bama regarding this issue would sit down and shut up about it, despite wondering what took him so long. (S)he is the one (of many) refusing to face facts.


8 posted on 12/07/2008 9:35:06 PM PST by Pablo Mac
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To: fhayek

As in Friedrich August von Hayek?


9 posted on 12/07/2008 9:35:16 PM PST by Deepest End ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." - Thomas Paine)
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To: Deepest End
Just proves my point. Nobody in the media wants to look like a fool when Barry whips out his real birth certificate showing that he IS eligible to serve because his father is an American black communist.

They know he's not African and Barry's whole career from college to the White House is based on this fairytale of an international African kid going to Washington. His credibility will be destroyed if it gets out.

This isn't about him being unqualified to serve. Its about him being a total FRAUD! And... they don't want you to know that fact.

10 posted on 12/07/2008 9:36:28 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: fhayek

They don’t have the guts to stand up.


11 posted on 12/07/2008 9:36:34 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: freekitty

I heard Bill Cunningham talking up the cases with lots of detail. Way to go Bill!

Also, he mentioned the Hillary problem for Sec of state.

I don;t know if Obama is good to go or not, but I think the right thing if for SCOTUS to make sure we find out.


12 posted on 12/07/2008 9:38:22 PM PST by SerafinQ
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To: Deepest End
It's an homage. I fear that we are all traveling on the road to serfdom.
13 posted on 12/07/2008 9:39:56 PM PST by fhayek
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To: Deepest End

They are almost all cowards on AM radio.

Thank goodness for the Plains Radio people on the Internet.


14 posted on 12/07/2008 9:43:38 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: fhayek
Excellent book.

I understand.

15 posted on 12/07/2008 9:45:05 PM PST by Deepest End ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." - Thomas Paine)
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To: SerafinQ

Good for Bill Cunningham. Levin and Ingraham are attorneys but they are silent. Where is Ann Coulter? Drudge is another HUGE sell out.


16 posted on 12/07/2008 9:45:54 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: Deepest End
This is what a Copy of a Certificate of Live Birth (some data redacted) from the State of Hawaii, Department of Health issued in July 1962 for the Birth of a male in February 1962 on the Island of Oahu looks like. Note the State of Hawaii, Department of Health official embossed seal and official signatures of the then Director of Health and the Registrar General which are underlined in red. A document similar to this is what most of the lawsuits are asking to be released for public viewing. Certificate-of-Live-Birth-Hawaii-1962
17 posted on 12/07/2008 9:46:19 PM PST by NewEnglander
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To: Frantzie

Druge has made postings, but isnt doing it up right.

levin marginalizes it...im very dissapointed in the used-to-be-great one.

hannity...where are you?

rush???

coulter..busy selling books...doesnt want to anger all of teh above because she needs time on the air to sell the books..if she starts talking about this, they wont put her on....selling out or cashing in?


18 posted on 12/07/2008 9:52:05 PM PST by SerafinQ
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To: Deepest End

Need to the keep the pressure on. It’s not like in 1991 when mainstream media refused to report on the many clintoon peccadilloes. Mainstream media in 1997 finally started printing news about clintoon’s philandering.


19 posted on 12/07/2008 9:55:44 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: SerafinQ; Frantzie

Savage is the only one I’ve heard out of the majors.


20 posted on 12/07/2008 9:56:06 PM PST by Deepest End ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." - Thomas Paine)
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To: Deepest End

Bill Cunningham also discussed the Obama citizenship status.


21 posted on 12/07/2008 9:57:12 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

I don’t believe he’s carried here. I’ve seen him on H&C a couple of times though.


22 posted on 12/07/2008 10:00:37 PM PST by Deepest End ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." - Thomas Paine)
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To: Red Steel

If he is talking about it and I can find him I will. Do you know if he is he on Sirius?


23 posted on 12/07/2008 10:03:12 PM PST by Deepest End ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." - Thomas Paine)
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To: Deepest End

“Basically, we are at the point where the guy could produce a completely legitimate birth certificate, and the same group of people who don’t believe he’s a US citizen will still believe he’s not a US citizen.”

What a pile of caribou droppings. Anyone who argues that a reason for Obama to not provide Americans with a legitimate birth certificate is because some won’t believe it anyway is grasping into the bottom of the “lame excuses” pile.

Let’s say I decide to hire someone to work for my company. I tell that person that before I hire him or her that I need to be shown a legitimate birth certificate. They tell me, “well, if I showed you my birth certificate you wouldn’t believe me anyhow, so therefore I’m not going to show you my birth certificate”. Can you guess what I’d say to that arrogant and immature s.o.b. as I ripped up his employment application? I bet most of you can, but some here think I should have given him the job anyhow.


24 posted on 12/07/2008 10:03:36 PM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: Deepest End

Cunningham took over for Drudge on Sunday nights. It should be mostly the same stations that Drudge had.


25 posted on 12/07/2008 10:04:43 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

When it comes down to it, the major Conservative radio personalities really care about one thing... themselves and they bank accounts.

By jumping on the birth certificate bandwagon, they chance being held up to public ridicule if (or when) Obama whips out the COLB and ends this once and for all. Indeed, given the past behavior of the Democrats, their utter lack of honor and their proven cunning, it wouldn’t be beyond them to HAVE a real COLB in their possession, which they’re withholding solely in the hope that Rush, Sean, Etc. jump on the bandwagon, just so they can attack them for being “right wing maniacs” - and thus disqualify anything and everything they say for the next four years (which, in this case, will seem like 100).

This isn’t to excuse our guys for ignoring the story. All it proves to me is that they care more about money and themselves about what’s right and wrong. I can’t say I’m very surprised.


26 posted on 12/07/2008 10:05:12 PM PST by Pravious
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To: Pravious

“themselves and they bank accounts.” should be “themselves and THEIR bank accounts” — sorry, it’s past my bed-time :-).


27 posted on 12/07/2008 10:06:28 PM PST by Pravious
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To: CaribouCrossing
...but some here think I should have given him the job anyhow.

No doubt about it, particularly if he gave you a URL to look it up yourself.

28 posted on 12/07/2008 10:06:37 PM PST by Deepest End ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." - Thomas Paine)
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To: Deepest End

“No doubt about it, particularly if he gave you a URL to look it up yourself.”

Yea, can you imagine how that would play out if the feds busted a business owner for hiring an illegal alien? I’m sure the judge would throw the case out if I just explained that the person I hired didn’t provide me with the required legal documentation, but he did give me a website address.

Obama couldn’t get a job from any law abiding company if he wouldn’t or couldn’t provide them legal documentation. And yet he’s shining his inaugural shoes while some Americans sit on the sidelines and hold their noses knowing that there’s crap on those shoes, but if they put a tight enough clothespin on their nose, they can manage to ignore it.


29 posted on 12/07/2008 10:19:05 PM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: April Lexington

and the pain I’m feeling now is the future pain when muslim leaders continue to make demands on this presumptive nutjob demanding he “return to his faith” as they are just recently but even more so,demands for his head.he is plainly endangering the security of the United States just even THINKING he could possibly hold the office of POTUS.


30 posted on 12/07/2008 10:20:29 PM PST by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Good Morning Mr & Mrs Scooter and All The Ships At Sea)
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To: Pablo Mac
Uh, that's not quite the case. It's NOT a “Certificate of Live Birth”, but a “CERTIFICATION of Live Birth”, and even the State of Hawaii won't accept it for all legal identification. Basically all it does is state he was born. Any other info on it could be hearsay.
31 posted on 12/07/2008 10:20:54 PM PST by Southbound ("A liar in public is worse than a full-paid-up Communist and I don't care who he is" - HST)
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To: NewEnglander

birth certificate (long-form0 bump :)


32 posted on 12/07/2008 10:22:56 PM PST by bushwon
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To: Frantzie
Well we “ain’t” getting much help from conservative talk radio either.

Well, Bill Cunningham, conservative talker on WBAP in Dallas talked about it tonight, and expressed the view that there is sufficient cause for the American people to ask Obama to provide proof of his Natural Born Citizen status. He also mentioned the Berg and Donofrio cases at the SC, but didn't get into much detail about them.

He took about five minutes to rant on the subject when a caller brought it up to him. He also tore the rest of talk radio for remaining silent on the issue, and blasted the MSM for starting a misinformation campaign against the it.

Apparently, some of them aren't afraid to talk about this.

33 posted on 12/07/2008 10:28:42 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: MHGinTN
we're getting a clear picture of dnc/Axelrod/Obamanoid trolls at FR, some of whom have been signed up for years!

I call 'em sleepers. I've gone toe to toe with a bunch of them on these threads.

34 posted on 12/07/2008 10:30:45 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: SerafinQ
...selling out or cashing in?

They may as well cash out.

A great many of us are going to see them as cowards forevermore because of their refusal to cover this issue. Damn shame, but we have a lot of great talent on our side. Others will rise to replace them.

35 posted on 12/07/2008 10:35:18 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier; All

wait a minute folks!
I thought I understood that the Supremes decided to take 2 cases on Friday. And that they typically announce the ones they will take on friday and the ones they WILL NOT on monday.
If this was true, then either our case is NOT going to be taken OR the justices are still deliberating or ????

What have you heard about this?


36 posted on 12/07/2008 10:35:23 PM PST by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: Frantzie

Frantzie wrote:

Leo Donofrio should have Rush Limbaugh, Levin, Beck or Savage’s job because he has a lot more guts than all of them combined.

nevadan writes:

I don’t think Rush, Levin, Beck, or Savage are “sitting” on the story or “afraid” to take a risky position. Good grief, I’d say they’ve all had more than their share of slams and hit pieces by the major media, Dems, and the ignorant in general because of the conservative values they espouse and the conservative principles they defend and advocate each and every day.

I think what their position is, is that it is the Supreme Court that is afraid. It is highly unlikely that the Court will take this case and overturn a national election. Remember the grief they took over Bush in 2000? Should they take the case? Absolutely! They are supposed to be the guardians of the Constitution. But, many people, myself included, just don’t think they have the backbone to do the right thing. I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t think so.

Anyway, I think that is why many Conservative talk radio personalities are not too excited over this - they just don’t think the court is going to do anything.


37 posted on 12/07/2008 10:38:04 PM PST by Nevadan
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To: bossmechanic

I think I understand your question... Yes, they announced two cases which they are taking, on Friday, neither of which was the Donofrio case.

The list of cases which were denied comes out tomorrow. A lot of folks, including me, are hoping that the Donofrio case isn’t on that list tomorrow.


38 posted on 12/07/2008 10:43:03 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

There seem to be a few data miners, working this issue for Axelrod to find out any piece or shred of anything that might need to be taken care of to keep this lying fraud undiscovered. This issue is now much bigger than a vault copy of his birth certification. And his reach of hidden documents goes from Kenya, to Hawaii, to U.S. colleges and law schools, to Indonesia, to Pakistan! And in typical Axelrod layers of lies to hide truth, the lies are stacking up quickly. Sad that the mainstream fifth column enemedia continues to aid him with their selective lying and ignoring the issues.


39 posted on 12/07/2008 10:45:05 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Windflier

thanks....
Glad to know I wasn’t dilusional - this time.
I’m hoping they’re just taking their time to craft a comprehensive reason to take the case and seek resolution in short order - something that would be very unusual.

Here’s to judges with proverbial balls!
Till tomorrow
Nite.


40 posted on 12/07/2008 10:49:31 PM PST by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: Nevadan

Why do so many people fall back on this whole “Supreme Court is scared/stupid/timid” line of reasoning? Sure, they sometimes hold off on making decisions longer than certain people would like by using comcepts such as Standing and Ripeness, but does anyone actually think that they are a bunch of cowering idiots? Admittedly, we see cases like Kelo and question the wisdom and dedication to the Constitution. But then we get one like Heller that we applaud. But lest we forget that they did sit down in 2000 and make the right decision in Bush vs. Gore, and despite what so many people think, they really don’t give a crap about what kind of coverage they get in the press or by the general public. That is why the ultimate backstop is appointed for life... no pressure by the President, the media or the rest of the huddled masses.


41 posted on 12/07/2008 10:52:31 PM PST by Shady Ray
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To: bossmechanic
The court can take as long as they need ... meaning, they issued two cases that will get cert and may have several others to still review before passing judgement to cert or not. Assholes were spittling Friday that no cert on Friday meant the cases were going into the shitter. Of course, not one of these stinky pie holes could prove anything except that two cases were allow cert on Friday.

Here's soemthign to ponder: if the SCOTUS is going to send Leo's case back to NJ with stipulation that the election board properly confrim eligibility, the reaction will be volatile by those prone to lawlessness ... little acorn bastards mostly. Several things must be prepared for such eventuality so we may not even be ready to learn that fact on Monday or Tuesday. Just a thought to warm your cockles.

42 posted on 12/07/2008 10:54:44 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Deepest End

read later


43 posted on 12/07/2008 10:57:53 PM PST by OriginalIntent (undo all judicial activism and its results)
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To: bicyclerepair

bump!


44 posted on 12/07/2008 11:00:06 PM PST by KingNo155
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To: Deepest End

The Keyes petition has the best chance at this point.

And don’t expect any MSM outlet to seriously cover this until a court MAKES Obama provide his birth certificate. It will give them a good reason to defend him.

How ironic that the media (helping Obama) saw fit to sue to have Jack Ryan’s custody records released....wait, it’s not ironic at all. It’s a travesty of a mockery of a sham of a mockery of a travesty of two mockeries of a sham. .


45 posted on 12/07/2008 11:35:00 PM PST by FTJM
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To: MHGinTN
There seem to be a few data miners, working this issue for Axelrod to find out any piece or shred of anything that might need to be taken care of to keep this lying fraud undiscovered.

Too bad you don't have to have special access to get into these discussions. No doubt, there are some reading here for oppositional research.

This issue is now much bigger than a vault copy of his birth certification. And his reach of hidden documents goes from Kenya, to Hawaii, to U.S. colleges and law schools, to Indonesia, to Pakistan!

Yep. I know you've seen the list posted here of all of Obama's sealed or inaccessible records. That, in itself, is enough to give any objective person reason for probable cause.

No President that I know of has ever locked down every record he has control of before he even stepped foot in the White House. No one does such a thing if they're clean.

Obama is dirty. There's no question about it.

46 posted on 12/07/2008 11:41:58 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: April Lexington

“Nobody in the media wants to look like a fool when Barry whips out his real birth certificate showing that he IS eligible to serve because his father is an American black communist.”

Possible but unlikely. His mother may not have known who the father was but Obama Sr. was the one she married and there would have been absolutely no reason to put anyone but him on the birth certificate.


47 posted on 12/07/2008 11:42:43 PM PST by Nipfan (The desire to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it - H L Mencken)
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To: Windflier

He is also a wicked man, as his actions defending the slaughter method called induced labor abortion proved while in the Illinois Senate. You have to be particulary dead soul wicked to defend Roe v Wade by protecting the killing of newly born alive struggling children, and mostly black children in Southside Chicago abortuaries (induced labor abortion if you want to look it up on the Net).


48 posted on 12/07/2008 11:52:27 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Nevadan
I think what their position is, is that it is the Supreme Court that is afraid....I think that is why many Conservative talk radio personalities are not too excited over this - they just don’t think the court is going to do anything.

If that's their position, then they are utterly tuned out to their listeners, and an enormous segment of the population.

If that's their position, then they cannot be rightfully called patriots, because for a patriotic American who is actually informed on this issue, it doesn't matter what the court will, or will not do. The Constitution and government's adherence to it, is what matters.

Not only that, if that's their position, it's a cop out, and devoid of any journalistic integrity. This is the most serious issue since 9/11.

49 posted on 12/07/2008 11:53:21 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: MHGinTN
He is also a wicked man, as his actions defending the slaughter method called induced labor abortion proved while in the Illinois Senate.

Back when "Operation Chaos" was in full swing, and we were posting pictures of Hillary with a house on top of her, I didn't know a thing about Obama, and hadn't paid much attention to him.

I remember that one of the first things I found out about him was his support of late term abortion, or infant murder, as it's more commonly known in sane red states.

What was particularly gruesome, was that he supported a measure that would have compelled doctors and medical staff to give NO assistance to an infant who miraculously survived this horror, which in effect would be allowing them to die of attempted murder.

(how do you scream out loud in anger in cyberspace?)

As you say, you have to be a dead soul to support such a thing as that. What a monster.

50 posted on 12/08/2008 12:08:14 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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