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Will Supremes review citizenship arguments?
Worldnetdaily ^ | 12/4/2008 | staff

Posted on 12/05/2008 8:42:02 PM PST by FreeAtlanta

With protesters gathering and praying on the front steps, the U.S. Supreme Court met in conference today to discuss whether or not to hear a case challenging Barack Obama's eligibility to be president.

"Obama was born a dual citizen," protester Roger Bredow told the Washington, D.C., local events blog, DCist. "British, and a citizen of the United States, at birth."

According to Bredow – and the case the Supreme Court reviewed today – dual citizenship makes Obama ineligible to take the oath of office.

Where's the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: artbellsupporters; birthcertificate; certifigate; constitution; crackerhead; illegalpresident; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile
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1 posted on 12/05/2008 8:42:03 PM PST by FreeAtlanta
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To: FreeAtlanta
Here is Gov (commerce secretary elect)Bill Richardson saying in Spanish that Obama is an "immigrant." (So he understands understands "immigrant" issues.)



Here in plain English is the Kenyan Ambassador saying that Obama is born in Kenya. You seem to be keeping up with this issue. Do you know if it is true that Obama said on his website that he was a “citizen under the 14th Amendment”?

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from obama's own site factcheck.org by way of fightthesmears on his dual citizenship at birth

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”
2 posted on 12/05/2008 8:45:49 PM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Can we just have one thread on this instead of 800 with nothing new?


3 posted on 12/05/2008 8:47:26 PM PST by Scarchin (Withholding judgement)
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To: Scarchin

Good point. We need to get back to putting up actual stories and then commenting from there. Where are the mods?


4 posted on 12/05/2008 8:51:40 PM PST by gogov
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To: ckilmer

This issue is 100% an issue of whether or not a part of the Constitution is ruled as being irrelevant or not.

It may be fine for some to sit back and act like they know that we will never win this arugument but they are only then helping the cause of destroying the rule of law, imo.

People here who do care about the rule of law and having the Constitution mean something had better get up and fight on this issue.


5 posted on 12/05/2008 8:52:22 PM PST by TheBigIf
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To: Scarchin

Can we just have one thread on this instead of 800 with nothing new?
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I’ll do you one better... Can we just have one Federal judge brave enough to defend the integrity of the United States Constitution? Just one? Once? Please, before the next American Revolution erupts? Please... please...please...


6 posted on 12/05/2008 8:53:32 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: TheBigIf
People here who do care about the rule of law and having the Constitution mean something had better get up and fight on this issue.
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I heartily agree! If not, the income tax amendment isn't relevant and the anti-slavery amendment isn't valid and the...

Either we have a constitution or we don't. If we don't, then lets forget this b*llsh*t and get busy forming a new country to replace the one we had. NO LIBERALS ALLOWED!!!

7 posted on 12/05/2008 8:56:48 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: April Lexington; Jim Robinson

We need a FR clock showing McCain released his BC after two days and OB so many days updated every day.


8 posted on 12/05/2008 8:59:32 PM PST by nufsed
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To: April Lexington

Well this country has been already dragged through the wringer since the days of the Civil War and then strongly thereafter in the days of Wilson and FDR.

Yet I pray at some point we will hit the tipping point and the pendulum will swing back.

We are seeing a takeover from within that is slow and painful if not.


9 posted on 12/05/2008 9:01:23 PM PST by TheBigIf
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To: nufsed

This is a great idea. If somone is looking for a niche for a website.


10 posted on 12/05/2008 9:08:47 PM PST by TheBigIf
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To: TheBigIf

Anyone here have any influence with the owner?


11 posted on 12/05/2008 9:13:11 PM PST by nufsed
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To: nufsed

Im a newbie at freereupblic so I wouldnt know. I just thought your idea of spelling this out with a timer that continually updated showig how long Obama was hiding this was great!

There could even be timers related to all that he is hiding from his college records to his Indonesian passport to his Senate records,etc...


12 posted on 12/05/2008 9:18:13 PM PST by TheBigIf
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To: FreeAtlanta
""Obama was born a dual citizen," "

I think I understand the process of acquiring dual citizenship, but how exactly is one born with dual citizenship? I guess it means (they think) he was born in Ameirca but had a Kenyan father who was a British citizen.

But, the Constitution does not mention or make any allowance for a "dual citizenship". It makes it pretty plain that the person must be born in America...a.k.a. a Natural Born Citizen of the United States.

The left is going to try every bit of word trickery and loophole they can find or invent to make this go away and their "buddy love" president elect in place.

But until this issue is lawfully settled, he will always be a foreigner to defrauded his way into the White House.

Just show us the [real] document.
13 posted on 12/05/2008 9:18:51 PM PST by FrankR (“Turtle up”, economically, for the duration of 0bamanation.)
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To: TheBigIf

Thanx. We need someone with influence to sell it to the owner.


14 posted on 12/05/2008 9:19:24 PM PST by nufsed
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To: TheBigIf

No matter how this works out in the SC the American people should continue to call for transparency from Obama.


15 posted on 12/05/2008 9:22:47 PM PST by TheBigIf
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To: nufsed

Well there are always people looking for good ideas for website design. Your idea is really good and hopefully someone picks it up.

Maybe even if it is not apart of this site it could still end up becoming a site that gets linked to here.


16 posted on 12/05/2008 9:26:17 PM PST by TheBigIf
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To: TheBigIf
perhaps we'll see it on the scroll at Times Square on new Years Eve. LOL!

I hope someone picks up the idea.

17 posted on 12/05/2008 9:29:32 PM PST by nufsed
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To: FreeAtlanta

From Title 8 Section 1401 of the US Code:
1401. Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;
(b) a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe: Provided, That the granting of citizenship under this subsection shall not in any manner impair or otherwise affect the right of such person to tribal or other property;
(c) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person;
(d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;
(e) a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person;
(f) a person of unknown parentage found in the United States while under the age of five years, until shown, prior to his attaining the age of twenty-one years, not to have been born in the United States;
(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person
(A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or
(B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 288 of title 22, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date; and
(h) a person born before noon (Eastern Standard Time) May 24, 1934, outside the limits and jurisdiction of the United States of an alien father and a mother who is a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, had resided in the United States.


18 posted on 12/05/2008 10:42:48 PM PST by jamese777
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To: FreeAtlanta; All

When will we find out if the Supremes will, or will not, hear the case? Does anyone have a clue?


19 posted on 12/05/2008 11:08:22 PM PST by no dems (GOP Ticket for 2012: Sarah Palin and a Conservative, Mexican Male)
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To: FreeAtlanta

“According to Bredow – and the case the Supreme Court reviewed today – dual citizenship makes Obama ineligible to take the oath of office.”

That is not true.

If his mother was a citizen and he was born on US soil (Hawaii) he is a natural born citizen.

His dual citizenship, acquired from his British-citizen father does not play a role.

The strongest argument would be that he was NOT born on US soil, which is very unlikely to be proved.

I don’t claim to know how this will unfold, but dual citizenship is not the issue.


20 posted on 12/05/2008 11:14:27 PM PST by truth_seeker
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