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To: lewisglad
Money is energy. Money matters.

McCain was not a bad candidate. McCain is, in fact, much more in line with the sentiments of mainstream America than Obama ever was, or will be. McCain had the burden of defeating an "historic candidate" solidly backed by the media, and no money to push a message beyond his voting base.

2 posted on 12/04/2008 9:33:49 AM PST by GVnana ("I once dressed as Tina Fey for Halloween." - Sarah Palin)
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To: GVnana

Not surprised to see Rove make the case that money was the difference. However, to get money, you have the run a candidate that excites those with money to give (in a legal context of giving). McCain wasn’t it because he lacked the ability to make a positive case for himself and his candidacy.


8 posted on 12/04/2008 9:39:45 AM PST by AmericanGirlRising (The cow is in the ditch. We know how it got there. Now help me get it out!)
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To: GVnana
McCain was not a bad candidate

Anyone who thinks that is delusional. McCain lost precisely because he was a lousy candidate. He was relieved when he lost.

12 posted on 12/04/2008 9:41:37 AM PST by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: GVnana; lewisglad

RE :McCain was not a bad candidate

Are you nuts? McCain’s/democrats campaign finance bill sounded great when it hurt fellow republicans, and got him McC the MSM praise for re-writing first amendment(MSM got more power). But it hurts him against BoB and now McC is a victim?? (He our General disarms his republicans in war and whines that he was personally shot unarmed??)

Rove who? Rove had a two election strategy, 2002+2004, at expense of 2006+2008 disasters, now this crap!


14 posted on 12/04/2008 9:41:55 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama says: "I only need to buy 40% of voters with handouts and trick another 11%")
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To: GVnana

McCain was a lousy candidate, constantly reaching across the aisle while he took it on the chin, and never attacking Obama where he was weakest. If not for Sarah Palin, he would have lost by a landslide.

I voted for him, and I kept by lips tightly zipped and spoke as well as I could about him after he nominated Sarah, because that indicated that maybe he had finally woken up. His acceptance speech was excellent, too. But it was all downhill again from there.

I agreed with Rush. Better to drag McCain across the finish line and then fight with him in the White House than to elect a Commie-Muslim foreigner. But he failed us in the debates and in the crunch, and even muzzled his supporters from telling the truth about Obama.


23 posted on 12/04/2008 9:47:06 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: GVnana

“McCain was not a bad candidate.”

Stopped reading after that, sorry. Thought a mistake of that magnitude discredits any logic that follows it.


27 posted on 12/04/2008 9:49:36 AM PST by Troll_House_Cookies (Ironically, Chancellor Obama's first re-education camp will be in Alaska.)
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To: GVnana
McCain was not a bad candidate.

Actually, he was the guy with his name on the last campaign finance swindle that became law. He then voluntarily hamstrung himself by following the rules while his opponent lied and brazenly broke the rules.

In retrospect, that sounds like a bad candidate to me.
30 posted on 12/04/2008 9:49:50 AM PST by Antoninus (America didn't turn away from conservatism, they turned away from many who faked it. - Mark Sanford)
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To: GVnana
and no money to push a message beyond his voting base”

And who's fault is that?
McCain's. His McCain-Feingold saw to that. McCain was hoisted with his own petard. Serves him right.

31 posted on 12/04/2008 9:50:12 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: GVnana
McCain had the burden of defeating an "historic candidate" solidly backed by the media, and no money to push a message beyond his voting base.

McCain didn't even get all of his voting base to the polls. His popular vote total fell 4 million short of Bush's in 2004.

33 posted on 12/04/2008 9:51:36 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: GVnana
McCain was not a bad candidate.

Mega-spittake...

You've got to be kidding! He was the quintessential bad candidate. He was WORSE than Dole.

McCain is the ultimate broken clock that is right twice a day. McCain was right twice in his life: when he refused to go home from the Hanoi Hilton and when he picked Sarah. Otherwise, he has always been wrong.

Isn't it ironic that our best President in history made one decision that ultimately would lead to the undoing of much his achievement while in office? That one bad decision made in the summer of 1980 has taken 28 years to come to its full fruition.

Likewise, our worst presidential candidate ever may well have left us with our greatest hope of resurrecting our country from what lies ahead in these next 4 years.

I obviously don't believe that Reagan had any idea of the negative impact the Bushes would have on the Conservative movement. I also suspect that McCain now regrets having picked Sarah. McCain, as with any broken clock, may well have done the right thing for once despite himself.

83 posted on 12/04/2008 10:36:32 AM PST by rhinohunter
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To: GVnana
and no money to push a message beyond his voting base.

ROFLOL, what base would that be?? The glorious middle of the roadies, they broke heavy for obammma.

85 posted on 12/04/2008 10:41:52 AM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: GVnana
-- McCain was not a bad candidate. --

If those middle of the road McCain supporters would have given up more money, and gone out to vote and otherwise supported their candidate, he would have won. Instead, they gave if up for a real Democrat.

88 posted on 12/04/2008 10:45:52 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: GVnana

“McCain was not a bad candidate.”

Correct. He was a GOD AWFUL candidate.


143 posted on 12/05/2008 11:44:49 AM PST by Bull Market (The Neo-Con experiment failed. John McCain deserved to lose.)
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