Hospitals in Hawaii to Obama: You Were Not Born Here!

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Hospitals in Hawaii to Obama: You Were Not Born Here!

By admin on Dec 2, 2008 in Blogging, Offbeat, Politics, Social Media

 

Supposed Conspiracy Claim Turns REAL on Obama

It is becoming painfully obvious that we may very well have a criminal President in 2009.  No this isn’t a joke. What I speak of is the curious developments in the supposedly racist, biased, dumb,  as well as insane case of where Obama was born.  Why the Barack Obama Birth Certificate Issue Is Legitimate

A strange development indeed is how it is that every time Barack Obama or a family member tells of where Obama was born, they seem to have no idea as of December 2008.

They seemed to know what hospital quite a few times months ago when it was claimed that Obama’s mother gave birth to him at Queens Medical Center in Honolulu - Obama and Mom Never Here

The Queen’s Medical Center
1301 Punchbowl StreetHonolulu, HI 96813  Link to Site
Phone number 808-538-9011 General Medical Records 808-547-4361.

After it was concluded that Obama and his mother were never there, his sister was in an interview (Mary) and claimed that Obama was born at  Kapiolani Medical Center for Women and Children - Obama and Mom Never Here 1319 Punahou StreetHonolulu, Hawaii 96826(808) 535-7000  Link to site

Hospital after Hospital - all Have No Record of Obama being born or Mom Ever being There. 

Hospital after hospital in Honolulu all have NO RECORD of Obama or mother ever being there.   Is this some state secret? Are we to believe that even the hospital that he was born in should remain secret? Why lie to us as if it matters I mean the man did win the Presidential vote? Why the lies and secrecy?

We already know that Obama’s family and the entire nation of Kenya (which is about to have a national holiday for Obama) know that Barack Obama was born in Mombasa Coastal Hospital in Kenya. The government of Kenya has sealed these records.  More and more secrecy due to the fact that once proven, Obama will not be constitutionally allowed to become President of the United States!

All of these were called from November 20 - December 2nd 2008. It is confirmed, OBAMA not born in any hospital in Honolulu County! NONE FACT!

Hospitals you can check yourself

• The Queen’s Medical Center - Honolulu, Hawaii  Obama claims as his birth hospital
  
• Kapi’ olani Medical Center  Obama’s sister claims Barack Obama born here
• Honolulu Shriners Hospital      Never a patient Mom or Obama
• Straub Clinic & Hospital    Never a patient Mom or Obama
• Hawaii Health Systems Corporation - Honolulu, Hawaii    Never a patient Mom or Obama
• Cancer Institute of Maui - Wailuku, Hawaii    No Comment ???
  
• Kuakini Hospital - Honolulu, Hawaii    Never a patient Mom or Obama
• Rehabilitation Hospital of the Pacific - Honolulu, Hawaii   Never a patient Mom or Obama
• St. Francis Healthcare System of Hawaii - Hawaii   Never a patient Mom or Obama
• Straub Heatlh - Honolulu, Hawaii   Never a patient Mom or Obama
• Tripler Medical Center - Honolulu, Hawaii   Never a patient Mom or Obama
• Wahiawa General Hospital - Wahiawa, Hawaii   Never a patient Mom or Obama
• Wilcox Memorial Hospital - Lihue, Kauai, Hawaii  Never a patient Mom or Obama

We were pretty detailed in our calls.  You can look at every hospital here and call any of them.  You can file freedom of information acts, you can do everything and anything you wish.  Barack Obama was never born in a hospital in Hawaii as claimed.

Only his original that he has sealed will have this info.  Will the Supreme Court force it open and thus preserve the Constitution of the United States?

Why the Barack Obama Birth Certificate Issue Is Legitimate

Hawaii Issues Birth Certificates to Foreign Born Residents!

Here’s Hawaii saying it like it it. All Doubts Cleared my Friends.

A. From Hawaii’s official Department of Health, Vital Records webpage: “Amended certificates of birth may be prepared and filed with the Department of Health, as provided by law, for 1) a person born in Hawaii who already has a birth certificate filed with the Department of Health or 2) a person born in a foreign country“ (applies to adopted children). 
B. A parent may register an in-state birth in lieu of certification by a hospital of birth under HRS 338-5.
C. Hawaiian law expressly provides for registration of out-of-state births under HRS 338-17.8.  A foreign birth presumably would have been recorded by the American consular of the country of birth, and presumably that would be reflected on the Hawaiian birth certificate.
D. Hawaiian law, however, expressly acknowledges that its system is subject to error.  See, for example, HRS 338-17.
E. Hawaiian law expressly provides for verification in lieu of certified copy of a birth certificate under HRS 338-14.3.
F. Even the Hawaii Department of Home Lands does not accept a certified copy of a birth certificate as conclusive evidence for its homestead program.  From its web site:  “In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.”

Now that we all understand that you can be born in Madagascar, Russia, Norway, Brazil or even Kenya like Obama and still have a REAL birth certificate that both Snopes and Factcheck would say was real since they are real. That doesn’t mean you were born in Hawaii. Does this matter to America?

Barack Obama has as of November 27th 2008 spent over$500,000 U.S. to prevent others from seeing it. Why? Didn’t he already win the vote?

Please don’t bring up Snopes (link) that says THEYVE SEEN Obama’s birth certificate and it is the one on his site called Fight the Smears. That is just plain garbage as it has a 2007 border and doesn’t list the hospital, Dr. or place of birth!  Plus they say they’ve seen his real birth certificate (you know the one that we the people aren’t allowed to see) .

All of the people born in Korea, Kenya, Mongolia, Australia and who also have Hawaiian birth certificates also have REAL birth certificates.

This does not mean they were born in Hawaii. Get it?

The following is what Obama has on his site as his real birth certificate authenticated by Snopes and Factcheck. Hmmm - 2007 borders, no info on original at all? What’s wrong with this picture? Yes it is a real birth certificate, so are the tens of thousands of other birth certificates given to people born in other countries.

Please don’t bring up Fact Check either (link) as they and Snopes can literally LOOK AT the thousands and thousands of birth certificates in Hawaii from people born in Korea, Australia, Germany and even Kenya like Barack Obama!  They are all REAL and Authentic birth certificates, but that doesn’t mean Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

Snopes and FactCheck aren’t lying when they say the 2007 birth certificate on Obama’s site is real.  So are the thousands and thousands of birth certificates in Hawaii from people born in Korea, Australia, Germany and even Kenya like Barack Obama!  They are all REAL and Authentic birth certificates, but that doesn’t mean they or Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

This is the whole point my friends.  That is why many of us are incensed that Obama is about to become the President and may not even Constitutionally qualify to be one!

This is unacceptable to every American who understands that Hawaii issues birth certificates to those born in foreign nations.

Yes - it is a proven fact that Hawaii grants birth certificates to people born in other nations! If you or I want a copy, they produce the document that you see on Obama’s site.  That is NOT the one that has what we need to see to have Obama become President of the United States.

To become President of the United States one must meet 3 criteria.  

• You must be 35 years of Age
• You must be a resident for 14 years
• You must be a natural born citizen - this is the one that someone born outside of the United States would obviously spend hundreds of thousands $$ to prevent us from seeing his birth certificate, just as Barack Obama has done.   Hint Hint.

What is Barack Obama Hiding? Can anyone answer the question as to where and what hospital he was born in?

Time is ticking and it looks like all hope is on the Supreme Court on Friday when they review a csase before them designed to force Obama to release his birth certificate.  December 5th 2008 is the deadline for them to meet.

No One Checks these People’s backgrounds at all? 

There is in fact NO ONE that checks. That is part of the lawsuits before the Supreme Court against the DNC as well as Obama. All they do is ask the state of birth if they have a real birth certificate on file and what the date of birth is. That is ALL! This is the whole point of the matter.

We even had other candidates run for the Presidency in minor parties like this guy - who ran for President against Obama and McCain but WAS BORN IN NICARAGUA. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%B3ger_Calero
Understand that there is no one that makes sure like a national HR dept that candidates are qualified. Róger Calero was the Socialist Workers Party Candidate.

He Ran and no one checked on his background either

Róger Calero was also arrested for felonies - another reason that he should not have even been allowed to even run for the Presidency in America. FACT.  By the way he (Róger Calero) was on the ballot in five states, where he received 7,209 votes. Coupled with the 2,618 votes received in the five states where Harris was on the ballot, the Socialist Workers Party received 9,827 votes.  No one checked his qualifications either. No one does!

We need to see Obama’s ’sealed’ birth certificate to clear all of the lies.

See:  Shocker: Why Obama WILL NOT Be President in January

[ConservativeMan55]

bttt

[TAdams8591]

Despair? It has nothing to do with despair. I suggest you learn to deal with reality. And learn to discuss the issues with facts and reason, instead of attacks.

Not a single certifier of elections, the person whose job is to check eligiblity and birth certificates, has brought suit against Obama. And none will. They were apparently satisfied with the proof of birth he presented

Read the comments of Freeper Character Counts, who well understands the legalities of this situation.

[unspun]

Forgive me if I got your attitude wrong. It appears to be very defeatist — very “sunshine patriot.” Despair, cowardice, nay-saying, Tokyo-Rose-ing — that is what you are apparently doing.

Your link does not lead to this person’s comments.

The legalities provide for the Donofrio’s case in terms of both standing and merit, or it would not have been picked up for conference by the entire court.

The Donofrio contention about “natural born citizen” is accurate, according to the intellectually honest interpretation of the Constitution.

Call the SCOTUS dishonest before the fact of their decision if you choose.

Cease and desist, from fatalistically bemoaning the efforts of those who fight for constitutional reality.

[TAdams8591]

No. Choosing to put all your time and energy into an effort that is obviously a losing battle with no chance for success, is defeatist.

In the end conservatism will win, but not if we waste all our time and energy on losing candidates and losing battles. THAT is the very essence of defeatism.

I take great comfort in knowing most conservatives have common sense and do not stand behind you on this one. Neither do most conservative leaders. Very few will get behind this effort, and there will be absolutely no push for it on talk radio. But please continue in your delusion that time and energy spent on efforts that are obviously losing battles with no chance whatsoever of success, somehow advances the cause of conservatism and it's ultimate victory.

[CharacterCounts]

No. Choosing to put all your time and energy into an effort that is obviously a losing battle with no chance for success, is defeatist.

Amen to that.

[unspun]

No. Choosing to put all your time and energy into an effort that is obviously a losing battle with no chance for success, is defeatist

That is presumptuous and perverse -- and worthy of a troll. Your silly psyops will not work here.

A conservative seeks to conserve the Constitution, even if it is costly (and even if the chance is remote, which this is not).

You, on the other hand, I do not know in FR.

[unspun]

Learn the Constitution.

[xhrist]

by your constant mantra of "loosing battles" and only spending energy on "winnable causes" and not on actual conservative-principled fights,

I am really curious if you ever thought it was a good idea to pursue impeaching Clinton.

I mean, that made us Conservatives "look bad", right?

We were unfairly painted as mean spirited and petty and all into the sex, so following your logic, that was obviously the wrong fight as well...
maybe you got on board with that issue when the fight got "winnable"?
maybe you felt we shouldn't have pushed so hard,
it was only lieing under oath anyways, ...
hey, thats seems kinda like the same thing that we are dealing with now...

at least you are willing to fight to be deafitist
;)

[CharacterCounts]

On Saturday of this week, there is a 99% probability you will be complaining the Supreme Court failed to follow the Constitution.

You will be wrong.

If te 1% chance coms out in your favor and this case goes forward, there is a 99% chance the Supreme Court will rule against these Plaintiffs. Once again you will say they failed to do their constitutional duty.

Once again, you will be wrong.

[unspun]

Learn intellectual honesty. Learn what words mean. Learn character. It counts.

Why in the world did you ever start posting in FR?

[CharacterCounts]

Why in the world did you ever start posting in FR?

To try to talk a little sense into idiots. Now go away.

[unspun]

To try to talk a little sense into idiots. Now go away.

You know better than Blackstone or than the many Constitutional scholars that have explained "natural born citizen" in Article 2 from the time it was written, onward. They are idiots.

Ad hominem is the failing attempt at an argument by someone who has no other.

[CharacterCounts]

Ad hominem is the failing attempt at an argument by someone who has no other.

Excuse me! You are the one who started questioning my character for no better reason than I disagree with you. You apparently have no trouble dishing things out, but a lot of trouble when it comes back at you.

I never throw the first insult!

[unspun]

You and this TAdams8591 are attempting to attack the good purposes and weaken the motivations of patriots who are defending the Constitution.

You are in the wrong and your character may be shown as a result of the fruits of your behavior. I did not directly insult you. I told you that you need to learn more.

So, learn.

[CharacterCounts]

You and this TAdams8591 are attempting to attack the good purposes and weaken the motivations of patriots who are defending the Constitution

You do understand that as of this date no less than six highly accomplished federal judges disagree with you. Are none of them patriots? Are they all part of some vast left wing conspiracy to put an ineligible person in office? Because I cite settles law as to standing, I am attacking good people? If Scalia, Thomas, Roberts and Alito end up agreeing with m, are they all part of this conspiracy or they just constitutionally ignorant?

You are starting to sound like the Al Gore maniacs of 2000.

[Pelagius of Asturias]

I do not think the law would be violated if the hospital said that someone was never a patient during a certain time frame. If one was never a patient, then there is nothing to release. The hospitals should have a few canned responses; they could say that they do not release that information, or they could say that the person was never a patient. If that person was a patient, they would not comment. The “no comment” cannot be construed to be an admission that they were not there.

Here’s my take on all this - Obama is hiding something that is personally very embarrassing. There are several possibilities; one of those is the birth certificate shows that the father is unknown, and he was adopted by Barack Senior. The certificate that has been shown on the internet looks like the certificate of an adopted child - like a car title.

[unspun]

Maybe you should run for the Senate CC; I think you would fit in.

There is absolutely no precedent for, by natural and national law, a citizen born of another nation to be U.S. President, since that is against the Constitution.

And not sixty, but absolutely no judges have ruled on the matter in favor of a man born as such into the citizenship of United Kingdom.

Words mean things, even when they’re in the Consitution.

[divine_moment_of_facts]

They are not going to bar the first black American, elected to the presidency, from assuming that office.

Exactly! I think it is dumb as all heck to be making an issue of this AFTER THE ELECTION! Why wasn't it resolved BEFORE THE ELECTION? We had enough time to actually do something about it then. Obama's mother WAS A CITIZEN. Give is up people.. Move on to important issues happening TODAY. Also.. Do we really want Biden as POTUS? He is scarier than Obama! For Crying out Loud.. think about ALL THE RAMIFICATIONS of throwing Obama out of office.

[unspun]

You also seem to be confusing citizen with natural born citizen. If the framers meant only “citizen” there would be no purpose for that clause in Article 2.

[xhrist]

"...no less than six highly accomplished federal judges disagree with you."
Names? please...

ya'see it's obama that has left the obvious shadow of doubt...
not sure why any Freeper would be AGAINST asking for a simple requirement in the Constitution to be observed...just seems so obvious...

there has been no ultimate ruling on these cases, and all some here are doing is saying: stop asking, it makes us look bad...

it's really quite sad and pathetic, we get this type of reasoning on FR...must be the GOP version of the PUMAs.