Posted on 11/27/2008 6:22:01 AM PST by ckilmer
November 26, 2008
I submit that there is a legitimate public interest in the birth certificate of the President-Elect.
Is the truth about his birth what he wrote in his autobiography, Dreams from My Father, or what he said at the last Alfred E. Smith dinner, or something else?
Is America at risk because the President-Elect is determined to conceal his birth certificate?
Professor Matthew J. Franck feels oppressed over the interest in President-Elect Obama's birth certificate.
Professor Franck, in a National Review Online Bench memo titled "Dear Lord, Make It Stop":
"It's a week after the election, and I'm still getting e-mails that holler about how Barack Obama is ineligible to be president because he's not a 'natural born citizen' under Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution. Enough already!
"Last winter, even the New York Times was suckered into taking seriously the loopy theory that John McCain is not a natural born citizen because he was born in the Panama Canal Zone. As I explained then, his parentage sufficed no matter where he was born, since his parents were U.S. citizens.
"So too with Obama. All indications are that he was born in Hawaii in 1961. The state authorities say they have his birth certificate (though the fact that a modern printout of an electronic record has been made available rather than a photocopy of the 1961 original has sent some people round the bend).
"And what if Obama was not born in the U.S. but instead, as some claim, in Kenya? Well, his mother was an American citizen, and as UCLA law prof and blogger Eugene Volokh explained to the Chicago Tribune, the applicable statutes about foreign birth with one U.S. citizen parent are on Obama's side here."
With all due respect to Professor Franck (and that is plenty), there is more to this than perhaps a legal issue as to whether a child of one United States citizen born abroad is eligible to serve a President of the United States (which should be determined based on principle, not personality). The President-Elect chose to hide his birth certificate instead of to produce it for public inspection. THAT is strange.
How many Presidents of the United States have hidden their birth certificate?
I am not aware of any.
How many presidential candidates have hidden their birth certificates?
To the best of my knowledge, only...THE ONE.
At the Alfred E. Smith dinner this year, then presidential candidate Obama said that he was born on Krypton and sent to earth by his father Jor-El.
Perhaps the truth is stranger than that.
Would a smart politician hide his or her birth certificate if there was nothing problematic about it?
The answer is no.
Such hiding instills or increases doubt about the candidate in some voters and it is in a candidate's best interests to eliminate such doubt if the truth is good.
So, it seems that the President-Elect elected to hide his birth certificate because there is something troublesome about it becoming generally known, and more important than allaying suspicion.
Professor Franck concluded his Bench Memo: "Give it up and get on with life. Barack Obama is going to become president on January 20, 2009. He won, fair and square, an office he is eligible to occupy. So stop with the fetid, fervid, fevered e-mails, okay?"
It may well be that the President-Elect is eligible to occupy the Oval Office, but without examining that birth certificate, how can Professor Franck assure us that the President-Elect "won, fair and square"?
A November 21, 2008 post by "Nice Deb" titled "Kenyan Ambassador: Obama's Birthplace "Already Well Known In Kenya" suggests that the President-Elect lied about his birthplace and while I don't care per se where he was born, I do care about lying.
"Nice Deb":
"I wasn't going to say any more about the Obama birth certificate controversy, but I found this intriguing.
"Mike in the Morning, a radio talk show out of Detroit MI, (of all places!), decided to call the Kenyan embassy a little over a week ago, and talk about the reaction in Kenya to Obama's victory in the 2008 Presidential election. I think it was meant to be a light hearted interview...it doesn't seem like they went into this with the intention of making headlines. They started off talking to a secretary, but were eventually patched through to the Kenyan Ambassador, H.E. Peter Ogego.
"The pertinent part of the audio starts at 2:35.
"My impression is that the question about Obama's birthplace was meant as a joke... not to be taken seriously. But His Excellency Peter Ogego answered it seriously, and frankly.
"A few things to consider in case you're thinking this was some sort of prank:
1. The audio of this conversation (the first part of the call can be heard, here) is posted at the WRIF radio station's website. I doubt the station would put its reputation and FCC radio license on the line for a hoax.
2. That sure sounds like H.E. Peter Ogego's voice. Compare here.
3. Listen to the genuine surprise of the talk show hosts after the call.The only argument that detractors can convincingly make, is that the Ambassador and most, if not all of Kenya's citizen's, including Obama's Kenyan grandmother, (who claims to have witnessed his birth), are mistaken about this.
"WND reports:
'At least two of his relatives in Kenya claim to have been present at his birth in Mombasa, Kenya. In addition, the Obama machine has scoffed at requests to see the form of the Hawaiian birth certificate that includes the specific hospital in which the delivery took place. The form released by the campaign does not include that information, leading to suspicions Obama might have been one of the foreign-born babies of the 1960s who were, nonetheless, provided birth certificates by the state of Hawaii.'
"And:
"'Hawaii Revised Statute 338-178 allows registration of birth in Hawaii for a child that was born outside of Hawaii to parents who, for a year preceding the child's birth, claimed Hawaii as their place of residence,' the document said. 'The only way to know where Senator Obama was actually born is to view Senator Obama's original birth certificate from 1961 that shows the name of the hospital and the name and signature of the doctor that delivered him.'"
Americans regularly receive tax and medical information about their President.
It is NOT too much to expect a presidential candidate to provide his or her birth certificate.
It IS cause for concern that the President-Elect is hiding his birth certificate and the logical questions presenting themselves are, Why is the President-Elect hiding his birth certificate?, and Is the President-Elect blackmail-able over his birth certificate?
© Michael Gaynor
Ah excuse me, the politically correct term is “African-American mail”, not “black mail”.
Sure
But BJ was blackmail-able over his BJs but that didn't matter to most either.
Blackmail and coercion.
Yes, our country’s leader could be manipulated.
IMPEACH OBAMA!!
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You just need to give this up. He's President for at least four years.
If there is an arcane question as to whether he's a citizen based on complex interpretations of immigration laws, or whatever, then allow a court to overturn the will of the people on such a technicality would be undemocratic.
I'm certain there's more dirt on this dude who's about to be crowned president.
bttt
I think when Putin sends him a birthday card around the end of April or early May....Obama will start to sweat. If Putin knows the real birthday of the Obama legend...then the bogus story doesn’t work anymore, and he can’t really be sure of what all Putin knows.
For those who haven’t figured out the birthday deal...assume that Stanley Ann was pregnant in late July/early August...rather than after arriving in Hawaii...and then you realize this Kenyan father-story...doesn’t work and was totally bogus from the day he wrote that book (well...the truth is that he didn’t even write the book either). Obama’s real birthday in this case...isn’t August 1961...its four months prior. Putin will sit there and often hint that he knows the whole story. I doubt he wants to do anything but make Obama sweat and fear meeting him in another event.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Hildabeast will blackmail him. Perhaps she will be his VP in 2012 after Biden steps down for health reasons.
I don’t like the guy either, but based on personal experience you are correct. My wife’s parents are both US citizens, but have been missionaries in Mexico for the last 49 yrs. My wife was born in Mexico City, but is still recognized by the US government as a natural born US citizen.
Well, how is that will of the people looking after three weeks of watching this incompetent boob in action as President-elect? He will get some of those people killed. If it takes enforcing some “arcane”, but, constitutional requirement to save us from ourselves, count me in.
Funny you should mention Putin....
http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/the-first-time-i-heard-of-barack-by-tom-fife/#more-4557
What else would explain his cabinet picks?
There were residency requirements at the time that his mother did not meet. The issue is preserving the integrity of our Constitutional is at stake. Otherwise the precedent will leave the presidency open to foreigners with evil money.
He’d be a US citizen if he was born on the moon.
That maybe. But the question is does he meet the qualification of ‘natural born’ as set out in the US Constitution? Has that term ‘natural born’ ever been defined by a court of law or written into legislation?
You maybe correct that he’ll be the next President sworn in but I still think there are items that will be or should be decided at some point along the way. jmo.
Obama’s were not.
That is the crux of the biscuit
"Here's my American birth certificate, my Kenyan one is missing...
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