OR THIS?
Posted on 11/26/2008 10:16:46 AM PST by Servant of the Cross
After the passage of Prop 8 in California, homosexuals are still howling that they don’t have “equal rights.” Hopefully, the California Supreme Court will respect the equal rights of voters by affirming Prop 8 because the howls of homosexuals are false. The truth is every person in America already has equal marriage rights!
We’re all playing by the same rules—we all have the same right to marry any non-related adult of the opposite sex. Those rules do not deny anyone “equal protection of the laws” because the qualifications to enter a marriage apply equally to everyone—every adult person has the same right to marry.
Homosexuals want the court to believe that because of their sexual desires they are a special class of persons that is being discriminated against. In other words, they think that sexual desires guarantee people special legal rights.
That’s a preposterous premise! It would mean that men born with a desire for many women (i.e. most men) are having their rights violated because marriage laws provide no means for polygamy. Likewise, it would mean that people desiring to marry their close relatives don’t have “equal rights” because our marriage laws have no provision for incest. And bisexuals could object because existing marriage laws don’t allow them to marry a man and a woman!
(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com ...
From the article:
Laws encourage good behavior or prevent bad behavior. Desires are irrelevant.
So there should be no legal class of “gay” or “straight,” just a legal class called “person.”
Gay complaints of “discrimination” are bogus as well. Marriage laws do not discriminate against persons, they discriminate against behavior. That’s true of most laws.
Has the genetics industry found the “Gay” gene yet?
Just wondering. If we can partial-birth abort gays, we won’t need a gay marriage ban.
Anyway, domestic partnership is already a part of California family law. Gay couples have all the rights and privileges of married couples - health care, legal documents, etc. It’s all about the word “marriage” which they want to redefine.
Someone referred to her domestic partner as her “wife” which made me wonder if the “wife” calls her her “wife” too. See, it’s all about stupid semantics.
The only solution is separation of marriage and state.
This all starts down the road to finally your neighbor wanting to marry your dog.....
RE “Homosexuals want the court to believe that because of their sexual desires they are a special class of persons that is being discriminated against. In other words, they think that sexual desires guarantee people special legal rights.”
My point exactly. Not only liberal judges by anti-discrimination laws, anti-hate laws, same sex partnership laws. Chris Mathhews loves to setup christian guests with questionm : “Do you believe they were born gay or learned it”. But I never hear republicans articulate a rational against gay rights, in fact they all seem to cave . I take issue with republicans, they completely lose ability to articulate conservative positions, terrified of media, and depended on winning the white house forever for poorly explained vetos. Even the dead anti-gay marriage constitution act of 2004 was botched and abandoned!
The author’s arguments are SOUND. However, the same case can be made to defend laws prohibiting inter-racial marriage.
Along with plural marriage, incest marriage, and on and on and on. If two or more people love each other why deny them their "Civil Right" to marry?...sarc/
The gay extremists’ equation of gay marriage with interracial marriage is especially offensive to common sense. Lifting the ban on interracial marriages did not require a re-definition of marriage itself. It simply removed an otherwise irrelevant restriction on a pre-existing institution.
To them, it is not a preposterous premise, it is exactly the point. They would argue FOR the polygamist, for the bisexual, for the incestuous, for the pedophile - because their logic proves that these people feel their rights are being violated because they are not free to have their sexual urges codified into rights.
OR THIS?
Hey, nice threads!
They have “equal treatment under the law” because they can choose to marry someone of the opposite sex and have it be recognized by the State as EQUALLY as I can.....or choose not to.
....and “marriage recognized by the State” is not a “right” anyway. States could eliminate State marriage laws any time they so choose.
Defiantly guaranties a special consideration.
But defiant definitely is in place
Some of them even think that their sexual desires accords them deification
civil unions
they are happy but no wait
they want marriage they are happy but no wait
they want adoption but no wait
they want teaching this in schools but no wait
they want homo’s to share the same bathroom, bedroom, dorm in the military
their agenda is a sick one
they say love well I love many people but I do not want to marry them nor do I want to have sex with them
their whole argument is based on love each other and rights, well no on has ever stopped by law someone loving someone
they have all the same rights as others.
marriage is not a constitutional right unless I missed where it said two people of the same sex have a right to marry each other.
go on their websites and they say to other homo’s , get to know as many people where you live, work etc, get them to like you and then tell them you are a homo.
then get the sympathy by saying that they should have the same rights, only want to be a family, be left alone bla bla bla
course at this point they are not really their work friend to the person but are using that person for their agenda, they’ll get them to sign petitions and go on protest , get them to vote how they want.
in all this time the person who has come to know the homo has forgot that the man is sticking his penis up the mans arse later that night or the woman is wearing a strap on pretending she is the man
it is a sick perverted sexual mind and they should and need to be stopped in their agenda.
we too now have to get our children into power , judges, shrinks, lawyers, teachers etc, then we have to get the message out about who they are what they do and what their agenda is.
we have to let people know all about them.
we have an advantage , we can have children they cannot so I wish I had more than 3 children now but I hope my children will have 7 or 8 now and I will help them plus we will look into adoption
we need to educate our children , grand kids etc about the homo’s before the teachers and colleges get to them
Sounds like the homosexual couple had a bad lawyer. Or else the real issue is the horrendous judicial system in this country that allows frivolous lawsuits a place at the table. Legal documents properly executed by competent adults should ALWAYS hold up in court. The red herring of "rights" and "privileges" not being recognized by these activists needs to be exposed for what it is - a big political lie. Sure, there are isolated cased where this might happen, but we never have - should never - legislated on such an important issue on the basis of the rare exceptions. Otherwise, all laws should be declared void because, after all "I was speeding because I needed to get to the doctor."
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