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To: IbJensen
Food is being expensively processed in order to be pumped into the car's fuel tank.

Food grains are not used in ethanol production, only seed quality grains. Ethanol production has not affected food prices but the high costs associated with $120.00+ oil for fuel, taxes on transport and sales taxed sure have had their effect. No, I am not pro ethanol as I know it makes a piss poor motor fuel and is very hard on engines.

7 posted on 11/26/2008 6:47:42 AM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: Lion Den Dan

“Food grains are not used in ethanol production, only seed quality grains. Ethanol production has not affected food prices ...”

BS! What do you think beef, chickens, turkeys, etc eat?

Where the hell does corn grow? On rocky outcrops on the side of a mountain, or is it the same farmland used to grow other food crops?


12 posted on 11/26/2008 6:58:51 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Lion Den Dan

Food grains are not used in ethanol production”

There is a direct relationship between corn production for ethanol and our food.
There is less corn to feed to beef cattle, pigs, and chickens.
That affects us in the price of meat and eggs.
The cost of milk has gone waaaay up to the dairy farmer because less acreage is being devoted to HAY production, as the fields are being used for ethanol corn production.

When all is said and done, there is still the pesky little problem of the amount of BTU’s that ethanol produces. It is approximately 2/3 of the amount of BTU’s the same amount of gasoline produces.
Time to take the BS out of this issue and get back to pure science.


44 posted on 11/26/2008 8:28:21 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Lion Den Dan
"Food grains are not used in ethanol production, only seed quality grains."

And your source for that statement would be what? Can you define a 'seed quality' grain? Thanks for your time.

55 posted on 11/26/2008 8:55:06 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of The Free Because of The Brave)
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To: Lion Den Dan

In fact there is no shortage of food in the markets because of Ethanol or any other reason. America has a vast capability of increasing food production. Our farmers are producing all the food and corn they can sell and they can greatly increase that production any time the markets are there to sell it.

There is minimal connection between ethanol and food costs. We are producing both at market capacity.

It is a myth that ethanol damages todays engines. Ethanol burns cleaner than gasoline and creates less wear and tear than does straight gasoline.

The 1970s cars that had plastic gas lines and carburetor parts have all been replaced or are classic show cars anyway that dont much drive on the road.

Here is a PDF on Ethanol that tells us some facts about the industry.
http://www.lecg.com/etea08


76 posted on 11/26/2008 10:55:30 AM PST by larry hagedon (born and raised and retired in Iowa.)
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