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To: freeplancer
I don’t care what party it is, term limits is the only answer.

Of course, the problem with term limits is that you get officeholders who have no accountability to the electorate.

Term limits isn't the answer. An informed electorate combined with an expectation of honest statesmanship (so colleagues remove offenders) is.

Will America ever get back to that? I doubt it.

8 posted on 11/24/2008 12:43:42 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring; freeplancer

Term limits was supposed to be the “solution” in California. Our legislature has only gotten worse since term limits were implemented.


10 posted on 11/24/2008 12:49:49 PM PST by Chet 99
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To: Gondring
Term limits isn't the answer

If it's for 12 years it would work.

A single 12 year term in the Senate, four 3-year terms in the House, and two six-year terms for President.

25 posted on 11/24/2008 2:58:25 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Gondring
Of course, the problem with term limits is that you get officeholders who have no accountability to the electorate.

They would be accountable in a very profound way. After two terms as a congressman, he would face the real possibility of rejoining the private sector and having to live by the rules they he has forced us to live by.

30 posted on 11/24/2008 4:20:19 PM PST by outofstyle (There's a rake at the gates of Hell tonight)
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To: Gondring
Of course, the problem with term limits is that you get officeholders who have no accountability to the electorate.

What? They're not accountable to us now, they do what they want, when they want, and how they want.

At least with term limits we won't be stuck with them for 30 years or more, like Biden and the rest of those long-in-the-tooth, entrenched politicians.

I am glad that Carney is not appointed to the position--he's been Ruth Ann's toidy for years--even Biden is sharper than him!

33 posted on 11/24/2008 8:10:12 PM PST by pray4liberty (Always vote for life!)
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To: Gondring
Term limits isn't the answer. An informed electorate combined with an expectation of honest statesmanship (so colleagues remove offenders) is.

How about repealing the 17th amendment and eliminating Senate elections altogether?

I believe that eliminating 33 of the most expensive elections that occur every two years is the keystone to getting money out of politics.

Presidential elections occur once every four years. House elections occur every two years, but their districts are too small to mount an effective national fundraising campaign.

It's the 33 statewide Senate elections that occur every two years that demand the money. These elections are what the national parties are structured around (see how Schumer chaired the national Senate election committee?).

End the Senate elections, and you break the need for national campaign financing as a perpetual machine.

-PJ

47 posted on 11/27/2008 1:23:38 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (You can never overestimate the Democrats' ability to overplay their hand.)
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