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Obama urged to create 'Green New Deal'(develop green jobs)
boston.com ^ | November 24, 2008 | Beth Daley

Posted on 11/24/2008 11:05:57 AM PST by thetru

The worldwide economic crisis is prompting a growing number of countries to back away from pledges to cut greenhouse gas emissions and invest in clean energy, just a week before the start of talks in Poland on a new worldwide climate change treaty. In the United States, some business groups are calling on President-elect Barack Obama to move cautiously in tackling global warming, saying that a too aggressive response could prolong the economic downturn and cost jobs.

But a growing chorus of other businesses, environmentalists, and politicians are calling for a green-based economic recovery. An enormous federal government investment in clean technology would provide low-cost capital to accelerate energy efficiency, build massive renewable energy projects, and jumpstart a sustainable low-carbon economy, these groups say. Such a Green New Deal, woven into the economic stimulus package being crafted for early next year, could create millions of government-subsidized jobs and build a new energy infrastructure.

"It's a smart thing to do for the economy and a strategically wonderful thing to do for the environment," said David Foster, executive director of the Blue Green Alliance, a partnership between the Sierra Club and United Steelworkers that works to develop green jobs.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: ecobama; global; obama; obamatrandistionfile; warming
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1 posted on 11/24/2008 11:05:58 AM PST by thetru
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To: thetru

“We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded” as the military.


2 posted on 11/24/2008 11:09:09 AM PST by thetru
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“We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded” as the military

I'm wondering, is that before or after Barney Fwank's proposed 25% cut?

3 posted on 11/24/2008 11:11:20 AM PST by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: thetru

If “Green” were truly viable, the market would have done this 1,000-fold by now.


4 posted on 11/24/2008 11:11:25 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Ever notice that Obama supporters chant "O-Bahm-AH" while McCain/Palin supporters chant "U-S-A".)
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To: thetru

Money for nothin’ and the chicks are free!


5 posted on 11/24/2008 11:12:23 AM PST by Clock King (Radical Conservatives, arise!)
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To: thetru

Do you think they are backing away from the pledges because, err, uhh, umm, maybe they knew they were dumb in the first place?

Pay more in taxes to the gubbermint, so gubbermint scientists can pretend to control the weather. OK, got to ask — How dumb are you.


6 posted on 11/24/2008 11:12:35 AM PST by Tarpon (America's first principles, freedom, liberty, market economy and self-reliance will never fail.)
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To: thetru

report to town square for morning calithenics in your Messiah suit and then report to the Trebant factory.


7 posted on 11/24/2008 11:12:46 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Indeed. Excerpt of Obama’s “10 year plan” (Where have I heard of 10-year plans before....?):

• Invest In A Clean Energy Economy And Create 5 Million New Green Jobs: Obama and Biden will invest $150 billion over 10 years to advance the next generation of biofuels and fuel infrastructure, accelerate the commercialization of plug-in hybrids, promote development of commercial scale renewable energy, invest in low emissions coal plants, and begin transition to a new digital electricity grid. The plan will also invest in America’s highly-skilled manufacturing workforce and manufacturing centers to ensure that American workers have the skills and tools they need to pioneer the first wave of green technologies that will be in high demand throughout the world.


8 posted on 11/24/2008 11:13:53 AM PST by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: thetru

... as soon as someone brings in a ManBearPig ... alive!


9 posted on 11/24/2008 11:15:50 AM PST by TexGuy (If it has the slimmest of chances of being considered sarcasm ... IT IS!)
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Red and green make brown. Here comes the sh*t.


10 posted on 11/24/2008 11:15:53 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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green-based economic recovery

create millions of government-subsidized jobs

David Foster, a long-time labor leader, spent 16 years organizing workers in the western United States before taking the reigns at Blue Green.

11 posted on 11/24/2008 11:16:46 AM PST by kcvl
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Well, I do agree that there are trillions of dollars to be made worldwide by amazing new alternative energy and green technology, and that this is something like the internet where the US private sector could create a ton of new jobs early on while other countries play catch up (and it is still “early on” in green tech). I’m not even opposed to government funding in some way for this— the internet was a government creation, via DARPA. It would have to be done the right way, though, since bureaucracies tend to screw things up, so people could petition for grants based on reviewed proposals or something.


12 posted on 11/24/2008 11:18:12 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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but...but...but...we won’t see any potential benefits for 10 YEARS!!!

</end Democrat drilling logic>


13 posted on 11/24/2008 11:18:24 AM PST by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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...a growing chorus of other businesses, environmentalists, and politicians are calling for a green-based economic recovery.

Why do I suspect that this "chorus" is really a duet?............

14 posted on 11/24/2008 11:18:25 AM PST by Red Badger (Never has a man risen so far, so fast and is expected to do so much, for so many, with so little...)
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To: kcvl

Are unions much different that “community organizers”?


15 posted on 11/24/2008 11:19:56 AM PST by sarasota
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To: IYAS9YAS
Exactly. If some inventive genius (John Gault?) were to perfect, say... some solar panels that cost the consumer $150 each, and you needed about 3 or 4 of them on a 2000 Sq. Ft. house to operate it...

...and it could capture starlight and moonlight, so that it worked at night...Hey, that guy (or small startup company) would be richer than Bill Gates in a year.

It's amazing that all these green folk bleating about some magic green bullet economy that can provide full employment for decades, along with zero emissions (Don't we have to actualy MANUFACTURE these things, or ship them from factories to people???) are the very same people who have never in their lives been with a tinker's damn at math, or science, or engineering, or economics, or business, or...

16 posted on 11/24/2008 11:20:49 AM PST by willgolfforfood
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Yeah, the backpedalling is amazing — claiming that all the “Change” will take more time. I’m guessing that Axelrod has advised Obama to focus more on the Hope thing now that he won...

I’m also wondering how Obama/Biden will do this over ten years, given that his term only extends for 4, with a possible second term making 8....


17 posted on 11/24/2008 11:21:38 AM PST by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: thetru

The green lead genocide of good business people goes on, all in the guise of favoritism and taxes and breaks.

The world cheers as the US engine is being taken appart piece by piece and sent overseas. Not enough we lose our freedoms, we got to be also the foreigners’ butt boys.


18 posted on 11/24/2008 11:23:56 AM PST by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: dashing doofus

They knew all along not to go with this. It was a trick to trap and trip the US into pledges while the rest of the world would never follow it.

We’ve become weak and wobbly twisted.


19 posted on 11/24/2008 11:26:18 AM PST by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
It would have to be done the right way, though, since bureaucracies tend to screw things up...

Agree. IMO, tax credits for alternative energy R&D are the way to go, not government grants. Government grants will inevitably go to where they will do the most political good. You know, if a certain Democrat in a tightly contested race needs some help, Obama's energy dept can send a nice grant for a few million dollars, so that his Democratic compadre can stand in front of the TV cameras and make a speech about how "hard he worked to get this money" and thereby get a few hundred or thousand more votes.

Politicians love to be able to control grant money and steer it to where they need some help. I guess sometimes some good comes out of the process, but its not a terribly efficient use of tax dollars, IMO.

20 posted on 11/24/2008 11:26:30 AM PST by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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