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Hawaiian officials admit withholding Obama's original BC
Isreal Insider ^ | November 1, 2008

Posted on 11/23/2008 6:30:41 PM PST by Red Steel

Now it's pretty apparent why Barack Obama made his sudden, last minute visit to Honolulu. It wasn't Granny's health problems that interested him but Hawaii's Health Department.

The strategy may have backfired. A statement by Hawaiian officials Friday that they have seen but won't release an "original" birth certificate that has never been released raises more questions than it answers. It undercuts the indignant claims of Obama spokesmen and supporters that the "birth certificate" has been published for months, and the ridicule and claims of "smear" that the Obama camp has made against anyone claiming otherwise.

Image: the "certification of live birth" claimed by Obama campaign as his "birth certificate"

According to an AP report, Hawaii Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said Friday that she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.

But they won't say one word about what's on it.

Conspicuously, Hawaiian officials refuse to confirm that the information on the "original" certificate conforms to what has appeared on the "Certification of Live Birth" produced in 2007 that has so far been passed off as original by the Obama "Fight the Smears" site (here) and the Annenberg-backed site FactCheck.org (here). The latter dedicated a photoshoot to examining in pornographic detail a computer-generated facsimile that may bear no relation to the original document that the State of Hawaii now admits holding.

Can anyone smell "red herring"?

All of the obfuscation, which has been going on for more than four months, begs the question that the Obama campaign and its media supporters have steadfastly refused to answer: why won't the original birth certificate be released?

Why can't the Obama campaign do as the McCain campaign did, and release the original, typewritten document that the State of Hawaii, finally and in the last days before the election, admits exists in its "vaults"? What could be so damaging or contradictory that Obama has felt the need to keep hidden all these years and has created elaborate cover-ups to put forward computer-abstracted certification of live certificate instead of the original birth certificate?

Fukino says that no state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama's birth certificate be handled differently. But state officials, including Lingle's office, have consistently refused media requests for the release of the document, saying that only Obama himself, or a close family number, was authorized to have access to the "original" certificate. She says state law bars release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest.

Apparently that does not include the American People.

And yet Obama claimed in his memoir Dreams from my Father that he had in his possession his birth certificate. Unless the document has been "lost," he could publish the original without visiting grandma in Honolulu.

Trumpeting victory in Hawaii's admission that a suppressed "original" birth certificate exists is Chicago-based journalist Andy Martin, a long time nemesis of Obama, whose trip to Hawaii preceded the candidate's. (Obama arrived just as Martin left). Martin takes credit for forcing the State's hand in a press release:

Obama has falsely claimed to have placed the "original" on the Internet. Factcheck.org has falsely claimed to have seen this document and posted it on the Internet; that is not true. CNN has falsely ridiculed Martin. Hawai'i officials have now refuted Obama's false assertion.

Martin's victory in Honolulu will roil the final weekend of the presidential campaign. Internet chatter is expected to explode as the issue moves to the front page over Saturday and Sunday. Swing voters may be swayed by the exposure that Obama has brazenly been lying to the American people. "We just lobbed a grenade into the final weekend of the presidential campaign," says Andy.

"I am ecstatic. I called Obama a liar. I called Factcheck.org 'ObamaLies.org.' I said CNN was sloppy and lazy and wrong. And I was right. The State of Hawai'i has now backed me up. Whew. I knew I was right, but I feel a lot more comfortable knowing that I have started to get the machinery moving in state government. The original document is now obviously protected and safe from any tampering by Obama.

"My lawsuit started a firestorm in Hawai'i. The circuit judge has set a hearing for November 18th (a report in the Honolulu Advertiser for November 1st for an earlier hearing date of November 7th is inaccurate; that date was cancelled).

"CNN also has egg on its face, because, once again, Hawai'i backs my contention that the original document has never surfaced in public. CNN tried to demean me by contradicting my accurate claim.

"Now Obama, Factcheck.org and CNN have been exposed as liars. I said there was a 'secret,' original, typewritten birth certificate that had never been disclosed, and that document was the original COLB, not the phony 'original' that CNN placed before its viewers.

Martin, who has advanced the theory that the candidate has suppressed the original certificate because it would show that his father is not in fact Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., claims that Frank Marshall Davis -- a high profile Communist and journalist that Obama II referred to in his memoirs only as "Frank" -- is in fact Obama's father.

Martin has a court date in Hawaii on his demand to release the original birth certificate in the public interest scheduled for November 18, 2008. He has scheduled a press conference for today


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bho2008; birthcertificate; certifigate; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile
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1 posted on 11/23/2008 6:30:41 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Sorry, O...

The COTUS hasnt been amended lately to allow a person NOT born in the US to be POTUS...

Can you say President Joseph Biden ????

And just be thankful you can stay in the US Senate, for now ????


2 posted on 11/23/2008 6:35:04 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Red Steel
Martin has a court date in Hawaii on his demand to release the original birth certificate in the public interest scheduled for November 18, 2008.

November 18? How did it go?

3 posted on 11/23/2008 6:35:45 PM PST by library user
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To: Red Steel

Someone needs to print out the one from the web site and show these Hawaain Officials that one and say, “See this document with the Seal of the State of Hawaii on it? Do you have any information to suggest that this official looking document is a forgery? As an official entrusted with the credibility of Hawaiin documents, don’t you think it’s your duty to denounce this document? Are you not complicit in such a forgery if you remain silent while this document is shown around the world and purported to be an official Hawaiin document??


4 posted on 11/23/2008 6:35:50 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (Reagan is back, and this time he's a woman.)
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To: Red Steel

related....

Obama, Guvernator Arnold, trial Baloons, etc.

After Reading the link (below) regarding Obama, it must have jogged something else loose in my old mind-housing-group.

“First I Heard Of Barack....”
http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/the-first-time-i-heard-of-barack-by-tom-fife/#more-4557

I guess it was over a year ago now that Arnold S. (guvernator/Calif) first floated his “trial baloon” saying something to the effect that he would consider running for potus, if only the people would consider changing the Constitution in order to make him eligible to be prez.
What with him being a non-natural born citizen and all.

By people, I guess he meant we, the folks, (sheeple).

Is it me and my suspicious nature, or just a coincidence that Arnold’s ploy preceeded Obama’s similar but greater act of just running anyway being another non-natural born???

Was it just a trial ballon for Obama? I do recall it didn’t stir up all that much brouhaha, so maybe it was just the go-ahead for obama.

Something else to think about.

“Arnold’s “Trial Baloon,” Then Obama Right Up The Middle”
http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2008/08/23/gunny-g-first-arnolds-trial-baloon-then-obama-right-up-the-middle/


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5 posted on 11/23/2008 6:36:30 PM PST by gunnyg
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To: Tennessee Nana

Oh, I forgot...

You resigned form the Senate, didnt you...

Oh, well...

Looks like you might have to get a REAL job...

Maybe Hillary needs an office boy...


6 posted on 11/23/2008 6:36:30 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Red Steel

I think this would compel the SCOTUS to take a little more interest rather than taking a pass.


7 posted on 11/23/2008 6:37:07 PM PST by Jolla
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To: Red Steel

Bookmark


8 posted on 11/23/2008 6:37:48 PM PST by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: library user

Denied based on lack of standing says the judge. Martin says he’s going to appeal it.


9 posted on 11/23/2008 6:38:00 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: gunnyg

If Obama skates by...

It will be AAAAAnold 2012


10 posted on 11/23/2008 6:38:05 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

More then AAAnold....this could open the gates to anyone in the world who can pick up US citizenship.


11 posted on 11/23/2008 6:41:00 PM PST by Doug TX
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To: Tennessee Nana
"And just be thankful you can stay in the US Senate, for now ???? "

Didn't he already resign his Senate seat as of last Sunday, 11/16?

12 posted on 11/23/2008 6:42:23 PM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Socialist Mafia.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

not necessarily. Biden was part of the entire fraud job. check out obamacrimes.com he gives a list of what possibilities could happen. Even McCain Palin might take over because of the FRAUD.

PS. Fraud has no expiration date. I suspect some law suite against the DNC, obama and Biden.


13 posted on 11/23/2008 6:42:23 PM PST by television is just wrong (obama is going to pay my mortgage for me!)
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To: Red Steel
Martin, who has advanced the theory that the candidate has suppressed the original certificate because it would show that his father is not in fact Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., claims that Frank Marshall Davis -- a high profile Communist and journalist that Obama II referred to in his memoirs only as "Frank" -- is in fact Obama's father.

I fail to see why it would matter if his father WAS Frank Marshall Davis. Other than the fact that Obama would have been proven a liar about who his real father was, it would verify that he was indeed born a US citizen and was not naturalized. And nobody cares about his Marxist associates.

Nobody cares if Democrats lie - in fact Democrats are admired but what smooth liars they are.

14 posted on 11/23/2008 6:43:00 PM PST by randita (Taxes equal wealth spreading)
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To: Red Steel

Is there anything new in this article?

Maybe we should start a boycott of Hawaii. Their tourism business and the economy is sucking wind.


15 posted on 11/23/2008 6:43:13 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: Tennessee Nana

I’d carbon date anything they supply. had enough time to do a wee bit better forgery than the first one.


16 posted on 11/23/2008 6:43:30 PM PST by jedi150
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To: Red Steel

According to the Naturalization Act of Jan. 1795 indicates Barack Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen of the U.S.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp2kKNTjH70


17 posted on 11/23/2008 6:44:01 PM PST by classified
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To: Red Steel

Isreal insider= nutcase.com


18 posted on 11/23/2008 6:44:31 PM PST by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: gunnyg

Nobody cared because Arnold wouldn’t have a chance in hades, natural-born or not. One look at what he’s done with California is all you need to know.


19 posted on 11/23/2008 6:44:41 PM PST by informavoracious (It's after midnight, I'm FReepwalking...)
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To: gunnyg

>>>>>Was it just a trial ballon for Obama? I do recall it didn’t stir up all that much brouhaha<<<<<<<

I recall it being answered with something like “Nice idea Arn, but it needs a Constitutional amendment which takes a very long time and is not realistic, so sorry man. Ain’t happening, just stick with California. OK?”


20 posted on 11/23/2008 6:44:56 PM PST by angkor (Conservatism is not a religious movement.)
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