Posted on 11/22/2008 12:00:44 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
t will be some time before we know the full extent of Obama's ambitions on domestic policy, but progressives are sure to feature prominently in any debate over health care, energy, banking, etc. In the realm of foreign policy, however, progressives seem already to have been marginalized, or dismissed entirely.
Barack Obama's national security team is beginning to take shape and there is not a progressive in sight. Assuming the leaks and rumors are true, Hillary will be at State, Jones will serve as national security adviser, Brennan will head the CIA, Gates will stay on at Defense, and Obama will be taking counsel from Scowcroft all the while. These people are not progressives (except Clinton on domestic policy); they are generally considered to be in the realist camp, with the possible exception of Clinton, a liberal internationalist. Jones, Gates and Scowcroft aren't even Democrats.
None of this is surprising. Obama never seemed to take progressives very seriously on foreign policy. Throughout the campaign he signaled his respect for the foreign policy of Bush 41, and his advisers tended to split between realists like Richard Danzig and liberal internationalists like Samantha Power. In the one instance that Obama did genuinely excite progressives -- his call to sit down with the leaders of rogue states for direct and unconditional negotiations -- there was no formal roll out or set-piece speech announcing the policy. Instead, even supporters of the idea acknowledged that his arrival at the position had been 'accidental,' and Obama backpedaled over the course of the campaign.
What is clear is that the split between realists and neoconservatives has been resolved, for the time being, in favor of the realists, whose titular leader, Colin Powell, .......
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Moderate good news ping!
Why is good news that Obama has decided to maintain a world empire that is bankrupting us?
What world empire ????
160 bases for a start. Heck, even the neocons call it an “empire.” It is a value neutral word.
The great Prime Minister Palmerston used to say “Britain has no permanent friends, only permanent interests”.
Perhaps that holds true for America as well :)
I quite frankly don’t know what to make of this line up. Will the anointed one be controlled by his handlers or will he actually take solid advice from some in this line up. Time will tell.
Right.
Why are US troops in over 100 countries?
It’s time to drastically reduce our Army. It’s not our responsibility to protect Korea or Europe. Let them foot the bill (and blood).
US foreign policy post the Soviet demise has been horrendous. Expanding NATO was and is STUPID.
With "neocon" we have a term nearly as devoid of semantic content by now as a verbal utterance can be. The aggressive, unilateral (another such term, but let it pass for now) policies most neocons are accused of espousing is anything but conservative in any sense. They are, to be perfectly accurate, "progressive."
As to the "progressives" it is considerably more difficult to find significant differences between their aims and those of the "realists," which leads the critical reader to suspect that this hair is being split by adherents of one or the other set of precepts. The desired result, to be sure, seems somewhat opposed - in the case of the progressives it is to subordinate the country's foreign policy to the approval of international institutions in an effort to make amends for past errors by supporting those of America's enemies whose intentions are most to alter American society in favor of progressive aims, including such holy grails as redistribution of wealth on an international level and the subordination of the Constitution to international law (whose practitioners are, needless to say, neither elected nor accountable to any but their own utopian fantasies). These were always doomed to disappointment; their program is self-destructive and contains internal contradictions that will force it quickly to implode in any case.
Which brings us to the "realists," a term broad and vague enough to cover such neo-Metternichs as Zbigniew Brzezinski and Henry Kissinger. Anthony Lake? Colin Powell? Anyone using such a term to describe that continuum is either satisfied that words needn't have precise meanings or unacquainted with the policies advanced by that disparate group. What little is common is a rather unjustified faith in the efficacy of international diplomacy and a recognition (possibly the only "realistic" thing about it) that the efforts of international diplomacy have been nearly uniformly bereft of any substantive result to date.
And so the reins are passed, more or less, from one group of murky intent to another informed by yet another. If students of foreign policy are confused by this terminological goulash they are to be forgiven. In terms of actual policy, however, the upshot is not encouraging. About the only thing everyone agrees upon is that the worst possible policy reflects that of Iraq, which is, in practice, about the only one in the recent past actually to have produced results beneficial both to its people and to that of the world at large. That, one supposes, is to be avoided at all cost.
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