Posted on 11/21/2008 2:11:48 AM PST by Man50D
WASHINGTON – WND today announces the launching of an online petition designed to enlist the public's help in demanding evidence of Barack Obama's constitutional eligibility for the office of the presidency.
The electronic petition calls on all controlling legal authorities to take seriously the matter of where and when and to whom Obama was born and whether he qualifies as a "natural-born American citizen," according to Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution.
"This is a very unusual step for us to take," said Joseph Farah, founder, editor and chief executive officer of the leading independent online news source. "I have long resisted the temptation toward corporate activism – even avoiding the tradition of corporate editorial positions and political endorsements. We do those things individually as columnists and pundits, but WND has rarely engaged in taking editorial stands as most newspapers do."
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"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
You guys must live in an alternate Universe.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Where was Joseph Farah when the Patriot act was running a carriage and four through the fourth amendment?
Yeah, I am all for forcing transparency on whether Obama meets the constitutional requirements for citizenship and am number 889 to sign the petition. I suspect we may be facing a constitutional crisis.
I would feel alot better about facing such a thing if conservatives in general had given much of a damn about it (the constitution) over the last 8 years. Every time someone raised the issue, there was a howl of rejoinders from the brainless neocons accusing you of being 1) a closet Democratic Underground sycophant or 2) a “Paultard truther.”
It was considered an effective “argument” to pull out flashy pictures of the World Trade Center under attack as justification for the Bush admin to eviscerate the fourth, granting the kind of draconian powers that if a Democrat asked for them, we would be aghast and ready to riot.
As it is, the leftists are going to accuse you of only caring about the constitution when your team is threatened. The sad thing is, for many, this is accurate.
Get Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh or one single Republican Senator or Congressman to embrace your cause, and I will take your case seriously.
Otherwise, it is just kind of weird.
I jumped off the bandwagon after seeing a birth notice for Obama printed in 1961 in the Honolulu newspaper.
Was that a conspiracy too?
If they don't, wrap your heads around "President Biden". We lose either way.
I could get a birth notice for Barack Obama printed in a Honolulu newspaper today. It would take a phone call and a few dollars.
I heard on line petitions were/are useless?
If there is really a case (I remain skeptical) then you just have to count the votes on the USSC. Alito, Scalia, Thomas and Roberts are serious constitutionalists. Stevens, Souter, Ginsberg and Breyer are all leftists and can be counted on to put him in office no matter what.
That leaves Kennedy, as usual. My guess is that he will look at the political upheaval and constitutional crisis this would create and decide that “for the good of the country” he would vote to certify.
This assumes that we have some “there” there in the issue of Obama’s original nationality. My wife has been an absolute bird dog on this stuff and has read every web site from here to Kathmandu. I remain skeptical, but able to be convinced.
I have to say AGAIN that I really wish conservatives had shown this level of concern for the constitution when the Bush admin was assaulting it (and they did!).
Rush did bring the issue of the birth certificate out on his show.
It is an important constitutional issue and one that is simple to rectify. Show the original certificate and close the case.
Oh - come on - do some research on this. A birth notice is not a birth certificate. Nor is a COLB a birth certificate.
BTTT
Yeah, it's Called the America the constitutional republic. where is yours? The Democrat Underground America hating loony bin?
What about the riots and lawlessness if the law DOESN'T apply to Obama?
If it doesn't apply to Obama, it applies to NOBODY!
No taxes, no traffic laws, nothing.
If I hear one more thing about the damn birth announcement I will scream. Let me ask you, how does the newspaper get announcements? Do you think they stand outside the delivery room, wait for the baby to be born, get the info and then rush to print it? It is the parents responsibility to have the birth announcement put in the paper. My husband who was born in 1958, had a birth announcement printed in 3 different newspapers in 3 different states. Last I checked, you can’t use your birth announcement from the local paper as proof of citizenship.
It is weird because you can’t name one Republican Senator or Congressman who wants to be associated with you.
Can you explain why Obama has fought numerous lawsuits to avoid revealing the vault copy of his birth certificate?
If Obama is embarrassed about his parentage, he should know that a majority of those casting votes on 5 Nov don’t care about that kind of stuff. Bastardy is no longer considered abnormal. Nor is a mother with no father or ‘Unknown” listed as the father. Finally, we have the question of who his real father is. If it is someone else than Obama Sr., who cares? That stuff is simply no longer stigmatized as it once was. I think he wants the presidency bad enough that he really does not care if any of the preceding is true. Once he is in the Oval Office, he is happy.
That seems to leave two possibilities. First, he may have everything in order and plan a dramatic moment at the electoral college in which his birth is challenged and he whips out the certificate. This is a case of rope-a-dope, but he will have spent a million dollars in legal fees to set up this moment. This is great street theater, but truly lousy management skills on display.
The other possibility is that he is not a natural born citizen. If so, he may try to palm off a forgery as real. Or he may try to bluster his way into the office by threats and intimidation. In either case, the republic has suffered serious harm as the law is being ignored.
There is a very simple solution to this mattter. Show us the birth certificate.
Nancy Pelosi. Barney Frank. Harry Reid. Ted Kennedy.
BUMP
A birth announcement in a newspaper doesn't mean squat. Anyone can put one in, just like an obit. If a person is born or dies any where in the world, an announcement can be put in any newspaper any where else in the world.
According to the U.S. Naturalization Law Obama & McCain are not Natural Born Citizens of the U.S. and or neither qualified to be President According to Ariticle 2 of the Constitution.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM8BwErMkAk
Then it should be no problem for Obama to produce a valid BC.
“It is weird because you can’t name one Republican Senator or Congressman who wants to be associated with you.”
Duh, everytime ayers, wright or obama’s experience was brought up, there were crys of racism. Do you think anybody really wants to touch this. They are all waiting for the other guy. Just because the republicans have an issue with their spine doesnt make this story untrue.
What does this mean? That a news reporting organization does not want to write articles about trashing the Constitution because of "corporate activism". What! Corporations stand above of the Constitution. Whether it comes to be true or not this is a critical issue.
Tell me this: Why did Obama post the birth certificate of his sister Maya on his website???
When he got caught, he quickly removed it.
Obama’s grandmother and some of his siblings in Kenya stated that they were at the birth in KENYA. The American people deserve the truth.
It just occurred to me...Mr. Citizen of the World never traveled outside of the U.S. after his Pakistan visit circa 1980? Why not? Maybe he didn’t have a valid U.S. passport to get back into the country he’s bent on destroying.
I could have a birth notice put in a paper-we did for a grandson born while our son was in the service and the baby was born away from hometown. But are you telling me you actually saw a 1961 newspaper or did you see the blurry, almost unreadable item online? Printshop is great!
Assuming the notice was legitimate, what is on a certficiate that would make Obama fight to the SC to prevent it from being seen???
I just found this excellent video with Berg himself explaining his case. Looks like over 4 million people have watched it.
It was obviously produced before the elections.
It may have been posted before but worth posting again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs&feature=related
Mike In The Morning Calls The Kenyan Embassy (101 WRIF Radio, Detroit, Michigan)
Go to Article titled
LISTEN TO OUR CALLS TO THE KENYAN EMBASSY ABOUT BARACK OBAMA!
November 6, 2008
Then play the audio.The discussion begins at around 12:30 min.
http://my.wrif.com/mim/?cat=9
http://my.wrif.com/mim/?cat=9#
The Interview
Radio Host:
One more quick question, president elect Obama’s birthplace over in Kenya is that going to be a national spot to go visit where he was born?
Kenyan Ambassador:
It is already an attraction. His paternal grandmother is still alive.
Radio Host:
But his birth place, they will put up a marker there?
Kenyan Ambassador:
It will depend on the government. It is already well known.
And I am number 9,560 Do I get a prize for being in before the 10,000 mark?
You get a McCain for president yard sign
Rush said” it is a waste of time to talk about it because ,we can’t prove it.” And later he said” I don’t care where Obama was born, I don’t care what his birth certificate says.” I guess he doesn’t care what the truth is. So much for the detector of truth.
What kind of universe is that? One that demands adherence to the US Constitution?
The birth announcements printed in the papers were not the type sent in by relatives.
In 1961, the Honolulu papers went to the Vital Records Department and collected the births, deaths, marriages and divorces that had taken place the prior week. The VR office got this info from hospitals, courts, funerals homes, etc. The papers then printed the information on Sundays.
This gives me serious pause. How did the announcements get in the paper unless O had been born in a Honolulu hospital within the past 10 or so days?
I got this from a blog that has been exploring the issue of O’s citizenship: http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/obama-was-likely-born-in-hawaii/
See my post #45 for what I discovered about the birth announcements.
They were not put in by relatives, etc.
This does not necessarily mean he is eligible, but it gives me serious pause.
nonsense!
Our youngest daughter was born in Canada, and our hometown newspaper printed an short announcement of her birth.
Just as they printed an announcement when our oldest daughter died.
Well, I care where Obama was born. I do care what the birth certificate says. I don’t have the power to force him to prove his citizenship, but the Supreme Court does.
Rush said he didn’t care? I find that hard to believe....I’d like to see a transcript of those statements.
I hope the Court does look at this...the matter must be settled.
Hey Pa mom.
I do know that foreign certificates could be filed in Hawaii at the time of Obama’s birth...that would make sense with the announcement.
Didn’t Obamas sister have the same kind of birth announcement printed in the local paper even though she was not born there?
If not, I might be getting mixed frequencies from my tinfoil hat.
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