Posted on 11/20/2008 1:37:30 AM PST by calcowgirl
klamath ping
prisoner6
How will this effect Bigfoot?
Let me guess... we are going to remove electric generation plants with nothing to replace the power loss right?
If so, this is essentially one leftist action that is going to defeat other leftist actions. We want to get off foreign oil. We want to go clean energy production. And now we’re poised to destroy clean energy production.
If this is a good idea, why not remove Hover dam too? I mean let’s get back to nature folks.
What a pack of lies.
“PacifiCorp agrees to contribute as much as $200 million to cover the cost of removing its four dams and restoring the river. ... The impact to customer bills will be less than one percent.”
Slightly off topic but this quote or one like it shows up daily in the media to wit: an expense to a company shows up in the price to the consumer. And yet the average Leftist continues to scream that taxing business is the way to Nirvana. Why is it so hard for these people to understand that taxing business does not (necessarily) reduce profits but it certainly does increase prices.
Ironic because most of them had been built for recreational purposes over a century ago before water parks and home swimming pools.
Another example of government for the rich and by the rich.
Now that we've elected the bastards into office for another two years, they're telling us the tax money they're doling out to the rich isn't our money !!!
Where's Thomas Jefferson when we really need him !!!
"To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his father has acquired too much, in order to spare to others who (or whose fathers) have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, "to guarantee to everyone a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it."
Thomas Jefferson, at http://www.ustreas.gov/education/fact-sheets/taxes/ustax.html
2020. Is that a joke? Hmmm, let’s see, by 2020 all the farms will have failed, they hope.
The real reason that the Salmon are declining is that the local Indian tribes are allowed to use gill nets at the mouth of the river. They claim it as an ‘ancestral right’ to harvest the Salmon as the forefathers did. The problem is that they do not use the same method of weaving tree roots etc. together to make nets then swim across the river dragging the heavy net risking being drowned in the rapid current. The new method is to back up their new 4WD to the river's edge and shoot a rocket-propelled net to the other side, sit down and have some beers and winch the net in at the end of the day. Then off to market, sell your take and go to McDonalds and stop for more beers. Few Salmon escape this high-tech manner of “fishing”, therefore fewer make it to their spawning areas.
Besides the obvious, these enviral fish idiots will be going Duh when we have a drought year like this past one.
Then, the Klamath will be a dusty highway during the no rain summer and fall.
Any smolts and a half pounders will be dead if they are still in the river system.
Of course if the river is dry, no Salmon or Steelhead will be able to come up the Klamath until we have some heavy rains in the fall or winter.
Without the dams holding the previous winter run off, there will be basically no water flowing down the Klamath during dry years.
Then the overweight salmon killing seals will have to go on welfare and salmon food stamps to keep from starving.
Of course the dam removal has nothing to do with protecting the salmon/steelhead.
The Green enviro whackos want to get rid of every rancher/farmer and professional guide/fisher downstream from the Klamath Lake to the Pacific Ocean.
The Spotted Owl BS got rid of the loggers and lumber people.
Now the Salmon BS will eliminate the farmers/ranchers and small communities down stream from Klamath Lake to the Pacific.
I believe that our Founding Fathers failed when they allowed so many Tories to escape. From those roots come our modern destroyer leftists.
I wonder if they calculated how much pollution would be generated by replacing this clean and reliable power source?
Although this does not effect the dam in Klamath where we fought our battle in 2001, this is a very bad deal and a very bad precedent.
They are taking clean, direct energy production out of the system with a whimsical promise that it will be replaced by "something" clean and efficient...but no direct info or plan to do so.
Fact is, the enviro nazis care less about US dependence on oil. They, their NGO patrners (who are tied at the hip to the United Nations), their liberal politician and judge enablers, and a (once again complicit MSM) want to see the US dependent and paying more for energy because, like the Obamanation stated...they believe that the rest of thw world will not put up with it and it fits their marxist agendas.
They have been talking of doing this same thing on the Snake River for years and this will embolden them to press all the harder for it.
Their "study" is more junk science like the one that called for the preservation of non-threatened (by any common sense and local knowledge standpoint) sucker fish in the Klamath Reservoir in 2001.
The book is available as a complete, professional Adobe PDF download, FREE to all Freepers AT THE LINK HERE
Jeff, just yesterday, they breached several of the levees of Klamath Lake. Blew them sky high. A ‘nature conservancy’ project.
Herald and News: Klamath Falls, Oregon > Front
Klamath Falls, Oregon Herald and News, newspaper online. ... Levees breached to help fish. Project will re-establish wetlands on the Williamson River Delta ...
www.heraldandnews.com/
“Let me guess... we are going to remove electric generation plants with nothing to replace the power loss right?”
You got it!
The madness continues.
See post 17
Yes it is, you liar.
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