ALL ILLEGALS!
America desecrated by jailing Border agents!
So welcome to America illegals and terrorists
What else am I to believe?
I will not apoligize for my actions, till the BP guards are pardoned.
Latest on guards...
Posted on 11/19/2008 8:38:48 AM PST by flattorney
Lou Dobbs Tonight Transcript
- Kitty Pilgrim, Guest Anchor
11th Hour Pardons - Ramos & Compean
Aired Tuesday, November 18, 2008
Are former border patrol agents Ramos and Compean closer to a presidential pardon? We'll have a special report
PILGRIM: President Bush has issued only 157 pardons and commuted six prison sentences during his time in office. And the president still has 63 days left to consider remaining clemency requests and two of those requests are from Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean. In a gross miscarriage of justice the two former border patrol agents were convicted of shooting and wounding an illegal alien drug dealer they were pursuing. And now they are serving lengthy prison terms. Hundreds of thousands of Americans have called for Ramos and Compean to be released from prison, but so far the White House has not been listening. Casey Wian has our report.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
CASEY WIAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Junk bond king Michael Milken, American Taliban John Walker Lindh, tax cheat and ex- Congressman Duke Cunningham, steroid abusing sprinter Marion Jones and former border patrol agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, just some of those waiting for President Bush to decide if they will receive a pardon or commutation of their prison sentences. President Bush has granted fewer requests for pardons and commutations, 163, than any other in modern history except for his father. Now the Justice Department has a record backlog of requests, more than 2,000.
(Excerpt) Read more at transcripts.cnn.com ...
WIAN: Ramos and Compean have served nearly two years of 11 and 12 year sentences for the nonfatal 2005 shooting of a Mexican drug smuggler who was an illegal alien. Supporters who say the agents were wrongly prosecuted and unfairly punished now pin their hopes on the same administration that decided to charge the agents with an illegal use of a weapons charge carrying a 10-year mandatory minimum sentence.
DAVID BOTSFORD, ATTORNEY FOR IGNACIO RAMOS: A commutation application has been filed with the Office of Pardon attorney in Washington. That will be processed and ultimately submitted hopefully to President Bush before he exits office. Otherwise it will be processed and submitted to our incoming President-elect Obama. And I'm hopeful that one of those two will see the light and do the right thing.
WIAN: Johnny Sutton, a U.S. attorney in Texas who oversaw the case and is a close friend of President Bush has since agreed their sentences were too harsh.
EDGAR MASON, ATTORNEY FOR JOSE COMPEAN: I would never be surprised at what happens. I'm a Democrat and it is Republican politics. But I'd never be surprised about anything.
WIAN: Ramos and Compean supporters are organizing an effort to purchase American flags and have them flown over the U.S. Capitol on January 17. Two years to the day after Ramos and Compean reported to prison.
(on camera): They have also gathered nearly 300,000 signatures and they're calling the White House every day to demand that President Bush free the agents.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
PILGRIM: Well this is also the subject of our poll tonight. Do you think President Bush will finally offer justice to agents Ramos and Compean and commute their sentences? Cast your vote at loudobbs.com. We'll bring you the results a little bit later in this broadcast.
Deport Bush..
No arguments here.
On border issues, Jorge gets his marching order fro Mexico City.
Ramos and Compaen should appeal to Caulderon and if he apporoives, he will direct El Gringo de Mexico to release them.
Nothing as much as the Mexican Border issue demonstrates the unsuitability of this man for the office he now holds.
And the man following him is even worse.
Best idea I’ve heard in awhile!
PING!
RAMOS/COMPEAN Ping
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What a scumbag. Sutton prosecuted Ramos and Compean for MURDER!
If he truly believed they were guilty, how could he think the sentences were too harsh?
(Answer--he knew they weren't)
ping
Wouldn’t it have been attempted murder?
The perp didn’t die, did he?
That said, there is plenty of injustice in this matter,
which demands accountability.
A pardon might even go a small way toward partially redeeming some the GWB
presidency legacy.
I admit I haven’t really been following this situation much, but if someone could clear some things up for me?
Weren’t they cleared of all charges except for one(s) that had a two year prison sentence? And haven’t they already served about a year of that time so far?
By this, I am making no judgment on their guilt or the validity of giving, or not giving them pardons. Just want to know that I am correct in my assessment of their status.
...how could he think the sentences were too harsh?
(Answer--he knew they weren't guilty)
Yes. Thanks for the correction.
Below is the original sentencing:
| Counts | . | Disposition |
| Ignacio Ramos (1) | ||
| 18:113G.F ASSAULT WITH A DANGEROUS WEAPON AND AIDING AND ABETTING (2sss) | 12 months and 1 day imprisonment to be followed by 3 years supervised release with a $2000.00 FINE and $100.00 S/A to run concurrent with counts 3sss, 8sss, 9sss, & 12sss | |
| 18:113B.F ASSAULT WITH SERIOUS BODILY INJURY AND AIDING AND ABETTING (3sss) | 12 months and 1 day imprisonment to be followed by 3 years supervised release and a $100.00 S/A to run concurrent with counts 2sss, 8sss, 9sss, & 12sss | |
| 18:924C.F DISCHARGE OF A FIRARM IN COMMISSION OF A CRIME OF VIOLENCE (4sss) | Sentenced to 120 months imprisonment to be followed by 3 years supervised release and $100.00 S/A to run consecutive with counts 2sss, 3sss, 8sss, 9sss & 12sss | |
| 18:1512C.F TAMPERING WITH AN OFFICIAL PROCEEDING (8sss) | 12 months and 1 day imprisonment to be followed by 3 years supervised release and a $100.00 S/A to run concurrent with counts 3sss, 2sss, 9sss, & 12sss | |
| 18:1512C.F TAMPERING WITH AN OFFICIAL PROCEEDING (9sss) | 12 months and 1 day imprisonment to be followed by 3 years supervised release and a $100.00 S/A to run concurrent with counts 3sss, 8sss, 2sss, & 12sss | |
| 18:242.F DEPRIVATION OF RIGHTS UNDER COLOR OF LAW (12sss) | 12 months and 1 day imprisonment to be followed by 3 years supervised release and a $100.00 S/A to run concurrent with counts 3sss, 8sss, 9sss, & 2sss | |
| Jose Alonso Compean (2) | ||
| 18:113G.F ASSAULT WITH A DANGEROUS WEAPON AND AIDING AND ABETTING (2sss) | Sentenced to 24 months imprisonment to be followed by 3 years supervised release with a $2000.00 FINE and $100.00 S/A to run concurrent with 10sss, 3sss, 6sss, 7sss, 8sss, & 11sss | |
| 18:113B.F ASSAULT WITH SERIOUS BODILY INJURY AND AIDING AND ABETTING (3sss) | Sentenced to 24 months imprisonment to be followed by 3 years supervised release and $100.00 S/A to run concurrent with 2sss, 10sss, 6sss, 7sss, 8sss, & 11sss | |
| 18:924C.F USE OF A FIREARM IN RELATION TO A CRIME OF VIOLENCE (5sss) | Sentenced to 120 months imprisonment to be followed by 3 years supervised release and $100.00 S/A to run consecutive with 2sss, 3sss, 6sss, 7sss, 8sss, 10sss & 11sss | |
| 18:1512C.F TAMPERING WITH AN OFFICIAL PROCEEDING (6sss) | Sentenced to 24 months imprisonment to be followed by 3 years supervised release and $100.00 S/A to run concurrent with 2sss, 3sss, 10sss, 7sss, 8sss, & 11sss | |
| 18:1512C.F TAMPERING WITH A OFFICIAL PROCEEDING (7sss) | Sentenced to 24 months imprisonment to be followed by 3 years supervised release and $100.00 S/A to run concurrent with 2sss, 3sss, 6sss, 10sss, 8sss, & 11sss | |
| 18:1512C.F TAMPERING WITH AN OFFICIAL PROCEEDING (8sss) | Sentenced to 24 months imprisonment to be followed by 3 years supervised release and $100.00 S/A to run concurrent with 2sss, 3sss, 6sss, 7sss, 10sss, & 11sss | |
| 18:1512C.F TAMPERING WITH AN OFFICIAL PROCEEDING (10sss) | Sentenced to 24 months imprisonment to be followed by 3 years supervised release and $100.00 S/A to run concurrent with 2sss, 3sss, 6sss, 7sss, 8sss, & 11sss | |
| 18:242.F DEPRIVATION OF RIGHTS UNDER COLOR OF LAW (11sss) | Sentenced to 24 months imprisonment to be followed by 3 years supervised release and $100.00 S/A to run concurrent with 2sss, 3sss, 6sss, 7sss, 8sss, & 10sss |
And McCain.
Thanks for clue-ing me in.
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