Cow Tax Proposal Would Threaten Agriculture Viability

Wyoming Farm Bureau Federation ^ | November 15, 2008 | unattributed

[prairiebreeze]

“With the economy in bad shape and the possibility of a deep recession looming, the Environmental Protection Agency is proposing to levy new taxes—on cows and pigs,” American Farm Bureau Federation Director of Regulatory Relations Rick Krause told Wyoming Farm Bureau members at their annual meeting. Krause spoke in Sheridan on Nov. 7.

“This is no laughing matter,” Krause said. “The cow tax and the pig tax are parts of a larger scheme by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to regulate greenhouse gases under the Clean Air Act.”

“Under the proposal, if a state charged the “presumptive minimum rate” from the EPA, the cow tax would be $175 per dairy cow, $87.50 per head for beef cattle and a little more than $20 per pig,” Krause explained.

[prairiebreeze]

Not only would a tax of this size "impose severe penalties on livestock producers", it would put many out of business.

[Viking2002]

Hmmmm. Sounds like just another 'gas tax' to me.

[aWolverine]

Not only would a tax of this size "impose severe penalties on livestock producers", it would put many out of business.

That's the idea. Hungry people will gladly apply to their Ministry of Beef for the quota tokens, especially after hearing so many MSM stories about how private farmers were "under-regulated".

[sionnsar]

Bet PETA is behind this...

[ConservativeMind]

How does the EPA have taxing authority? I know they can levy regulations which cost, but taxes?

[tiki]

It would also accomplish what the environazis can’t impose on us otherwise, many people would be forced to become vegetarians. For most cows that would add a 10 to 20% tax and cows are already subject to property tax yearly.

[HighlyOpinionated]

WAIT, didn’t President Bush just sign one of those “last minute” executive orders that gave Mining Cos permission to wreck havoc with mountain tops and watersheds to get at the coal?

And just where was the EPA then?

Why do I keep thinking “hell in a handbasket?”

[NaughtiusMaximus]

“The cow tax and the pig tax are parts of a larger scheme by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)

Yeah, to impose totalitarianism and destroy America.

[prairiebreeze]

Look at how many people are employed by the Big 3 of Beef (McD, Burger King, Wendy’s) not to mention how many little shops on the corner sling burgers for a buck.

Think there may be any JOBS LOST by such a measure, Misssster Obama?

[prairiebreeze]

Ok. That did make me smile.

Haaa!

[prairiebreeze]

They will propose legislation to the congress, if I’m understanding your question correctly.

There was a lot of rumbling in the industry today about this. It’s not just a story, I’m told.

[Farmer Dean]

Nope,the price of meat would just go up to cover the tax.

[B4Ranch]

I have no problem with the tax IF we equally apply the tax to imported livestock and boxed meat.

[OneWingedShark]

Obama: I hate people being able to AFFORD food...
(e.g. “Let them eat cake.”)

[henkster]

When the Chinese write the “official” history of the downfall of the United States of America, the title will be:

“What the He!! Were They Thinking?”

[prairiebreeze]

You have no problem with a tax that won’t do what it’s ostensibly sold as accomplishing? That will harm producers and make prices rise and demand decline because of it and put more money in the gubmint’s pocket??

Funny, I do.

[SJackson]

If you'd like to be on or off this Upper Midwest/outdoors/rural list please FR mail me. And ping me is you see articles of interest.

As a non cow/pig owner, those are some pretty stiff taxes.

[Political Junkie Too]

I thought the government wasn't supposed to tax food. So the food is still in a living state, it's still food.

If they are taxed because they emit greenhouse gas, so do all living creatures. Do we tax ourselves for breathing, too?

-PJ

[familyop]

"...the cow tax would be $175 per dairy cow, $87.50 per head for beef cattle..."

Whoah, there! Reverse those taxes, so that those with play-ranches (movie stars, other business moguls and the like--always beef) have to pay the higher tax. And get a tax on those millions of horses that are standing around and not being ridden. That should do it.

Under those conditions, the policy would not pass. It can only pass, if meat for the working class folks is taxed.

[Lera]

“We can’t drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK. That’s not leadership. That’s not going to happen.
Barack Obama “

Lot of Americans will go hungry

[ridesthemiles]

What do Democraps give their kids on their cereal? Coca Cola? Root Beer?

There is precious little profit in farming/ranching now in the USA. The regulations have driven many a dairy out of business.

Do you want milk from China with melamine in it?

The environazis are behind this. They want to force all ranching and farming to cease to exist.

[pnz1]

So they will put all the American dairy, beef, and pork farmers out of business and then we can import our meat from elsewhere?

[familyop]

"I have no problem with the tax IF we equally apply the tax to imported livestock and boxed meat."

That's a great idea.

[denydenydeny]

“Under the proposal, if a state charged the “presumptive minimum rate” from the EPA, the cow tax would be $175 per dairy cow..." Krause explained.

So let me get this straight...the EPA is taxing cows while simultaneously dairy farmers receive subsidies from the Department of Agriculture.

These people are ****ing insane.

[Lera]

“What do Democraps give their kids on their cereal? Coca Cola? Root Beer? “

You are forgetting about the hoards of them that don’t have kids (you know all those abortions , mommy and mommy /daddy and daddy living together etc )

[Steamburg]

Or is this a prelude to another subsidy not unlike the federal land bank. Pay ranchers not to raise beef to keep the world hungry. Either way, the consumer gets screwed.

[Ken H]

"If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And If it stops moving, subsidize it."

Ronald Reagan on government management of the economy.

[word_warrior_bob]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6KUDv1wzraWhwlBt1

Insane proposals designed to destroy businesses is the status quo for the modern “democratic” party.

We need to educate the masses before it’s too late, they have a bill ready to destroy every business in America.

[spokeshave]

Seems to me the chickens will be coming home to rooooooooost.

[bitterohiogunclinger]

I’m insisting from now on that government officials follow all proposed guidelines for two years before imposing rules on the rest of us. When the environmentalists and politicians stick catalytic converters up their asses and stop exhaling for two years, then we can discuss the detrimental effects of farm animals.

[Lera]

Not only will this put a lot of farmers out of business

but they also have plans to make it almost impossible for families to raise their own animals
start reading here http://nonais.org/ and you will be horrified

[stockpirate]

American voters just handed marxists all the tools they will need.

Nationalized education has paid off for the marxists.

I doubt we will ever get our lost freedoms back and during the next 4-8 years we will lose more of our righs.

[stockpirate]

American voters just handed marxists all the tools they will need.

Nationalized education has paid off for the marxists.

I doubt we will ever get our lost freedoms back and during the next 4-8 years we will lose more of our righs.

[Glacier Honey]

ping

[stockpirate]

you must be a liberal

[metmom]

“Under the proposal, if a state charged the “presumptive minimum rate” from the EPA, the cow tax would be $175 per dairy cow, $87.50 per head for beef cattle and a little more than $20 per pig,” Krause explained.

And just what would this tax accomplish? Getting cows and pigs to stop producing methane?

I don't think so.

[ProtectOurFreedom]

Oh come on now, you exaggerate. Such a tax would create an abundance of new “green” jobs and the price of beef and pork would certainly fall to new lows. Employment would soar!

[whatexit]

Ping

[CapnJack]

“Lot of Americans will go hungry”

GOOD!! and I hope cold as well ... freezing cold.

The more people who suffer terribly in the next 4 years, the better. They (and unfortunately we will be affected also) deserve it.

[bestintxas]

i for one will give up my herd as it will get way to expensive.

score one for the PETA herd

[Eric Blair 2084]

[dbacks]

How would those desk jockeys ever know. They would never get off their asses to check anyone out. Prolly wouldn’t recognise a cow or pig (unless it had lipstick).

[wastedyears]

Inmates are running it? No

Aliens

[Alex Murphy]

Give new meaning to the phrase “making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear.”

[Spktyr]

It almost certainly would start Texas tipping over the edge to secession. We have an awful lot of cows here.

[SunkenCiv]

meanwhile...

Nanobamas Created In Laboratory
LiveScience.com | 18 November 2008 | Staff Writing
Posted on 11/18/2008 3:33:56 PM PST by Old Sarge
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2134279/posts

but also...

Washington State Initiative 409
http://www.respectwashington.us/ | Nov 17, 2008 | robo_tek
Posted on 11/17/2008 9:30:09 PM PST by robo_tek
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2133997/posts

[DonnerT]

No need to import. Soilent green is People!

[steelyourfaith]

 

Beam me to Planet Gore !

[stickandrudder]

Dam* Another tax. Along with NAIS tagging every animal. Just another expense I don’t need.

The law perverted! And the police powers of the state perverted along with it! The law, I say, not only turned from its proper purpose but made to follow an entirely contrary purpose! The law become the weapon of every kind of greed! Instead of checking crime, the law itself guilty of the evils it is supposed to punish! Frederic Bastiat (1801-1850)