Posted on 11/18/2008 6:26:44 PM PST by GVnana
Released: November 18, 2008
Zogby Poll: Almost No Obama Voters Ace Election Test
Survey finds most Obama voters remembered negative coverage of McCain/Palin statements but struggled to correctly answer questions about coverage associated with Obama/Biden
UTICA, New York -- Just 2% of voters who supported Barack Obama on Election Day obtained perfect or near-perfect scores on a post election test which gauged their knowledge of statements and scandals associated with the presidential tickets during the campaign, a new Zogby International telephone poll shows.
Zogby Statement on Ziegler poll:
Only 54% of Obama voters were able to answer at least half or more of the questions correctly.
The 12-question, multiple-choice survey found questions regarding statements linked to Republican presidential candidate John McCain and his vice-presidential running-mate Sarah Palin were far more likely to be answered correctly by Obama voters than questions about statements associated with Obama and Vice-President–Elect Joe Biden. The telephone survey of 512 Obama voters nationwide was conducted Nov. 13-15, 2008, and carries a margin of error of +/- 4.4 percentage points.
The survey was commissioned by John Ziegler, author of The Death of Free Speech, producer of the recently released film "Blocking the Path to 9/11" and producer of the upcoming documentary film, Media Malpractice...How Obama Got Elected.
"We stand by the results our survey work on behalf of John Ziegler, as we stand by all of our work. We reject the notion that this was a push poll because it very simply wasn't. It was a legitimate effort to test the knowledge of voters who cast ballots for Barack Obama in the Nov. 4 election. Push polls are a malicious effort to sway public opinion one way or the other, while message and knowledge testing is quite another effort of public opinion research that is legitimate inquiry and has value in the public square. In this case, the respondents were given a full range of responses and were not pressured or influenced to respond in one way or another. This poll was not designed to hurt anyone, which is obvious as it was conducted after the election. The client is free to draw his own conclusions about the research, as are bloggers and other members of society. But Zogby International is a neutral party in this matter. We were hired to test public opinion on a particular subject and with no ax to grind, that's exactly what we did. We don't have to agree or disagree with the questions, we simply ask them and provide the client with a fair and accurate set of data reflecting public opinion." - John Zogby
"After I interviewed Obama voters on Election Day for my documentary, I had a pretty low opinion of what most of them had picked up from the media coverage of the campaign, but this poll really proves beyond any doubt the stunning level of malpractice on the part of the media in not educating the Obama portion of the voting populace," said Ziegler.
Ninety-four percent of Obama voters correctly identified Palin as the candidate with a pregnant teenage daughter, 86% correctly identified Palin as the candidate associated with a $150,000 wardrobe purchased by her political party, and 81% chose McCain as the candidate who was unable to identify the number of houses he owned. When asked which candidate said they could "see Russia from their house," 87% chose Palin, although the quote actually is attributed to Saturday Night Live's Tina Fey during her portrayal of Palin during the campaign. An answer of "none" or "Palin" was counted as a correct answer on the test, given that the statement was associated with a characterization of Palin.
Obama voters did not fare nearly as well overall when asked to answer questions about statements or stories associated with Obama or Biden -- 83% failed to correctly answer that Obama had won his first election by getting all of his opponents removed from the ballot, and 88% did not correctly associate Obama with his statement that his energy policies would likely bankrupt the coal industry. Most (56%) were also not able to correctly answer that Obama started his political career at the home of two former members of the Weather Underground.
Nearly three quarters (72%) of Obama voters did not correctly identify Biden as the candidate who had to quit a previous campaign for President because he was found to have plagiarized a speech, and nearly half (47%) did not know that Biden was the one who predicted Obama would be tested by a generated international crisis during his first six months as President.
In addition to questions regarding statements and scandals associated with the campaigns, the 12-question, multiple-choice survey also included a question asking which political party controlled both houses of Congress leading up to the election -- 57% of Obama voters were unable to correctly answer that Democrats controlled both the House and the Senate.
For content, contact: John Ziegler at talktozig@aol.com.
When you were required to be a property owner to vote, you had a more informed and “at stake” electorate.
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[Greek kakistos, worst, superlative of kakos, bad; see caco- + -cracy.]
Alas, however, McCain also could not turn out the base even by selecting Sarah (who was crucified in the press for obvious reasons but which still resulted in a lot of GOP voters doubting her capabilities). For example, Obama got 40,000 less votes than John Kerry in 2004 in Ohio but won by 200,000 votes. McCain got 300,000 less votes than Bush did in 2004 in Ohio. This race was so winnable that it hurts
Yep,I can’t afford that.
Very indicative of who’s a “fascist”, isn’t it?
A conservative bumper sticker will get your car vandalized probably 10 times to 1 over a lib sticker.
>>If one is too lazy to apply their own intelligence, how does that make them NOT stupid?
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>It makes them ignorant. Stupid is unable to learn. Ignorant is able to learn but having not learned.
>Thus, those who refuse to learn may well be able to, they just won’t. That leaves them uninformed
>and, hence, ignorant, yes?
I disagree. You see their unwillingness to learn means that they are unable to learn (very rarely does one learn against one’s will, but that is not saying one cannot learn from bad experiences); so, by their own choice to embrace unwillingness to learn and laziness, they have made themselves unable to learn: hence stupid.
Now, it is possible to be both intelligent and ignorant. For example, I’m a CS major, I enjoy listening to music, but I could not tell you what alto, contralto and all the rest are (except bass, that’s the low one), which makes me ignorant on the technicalities of music.
I won’t put it on my bumper but I believe it. No thought control, yet.)
bttt
Wish he would have done a similar poll for McCain voters. Or did he and I missed it?
I don’t give the 0bama voters the benefit of the doubt for being ignorant,
because even if they are ignorant, it is wilful ignorance.
Sad, I had no problem at all answer all the questions correctly on that poll. I did not however vote for Obama.
Go to http://www.howobamagotelected.com
and watch the FNC H&C video interview.
The author tells Alan that he’d wager double the ($13k) cost of the survey with Alan over whether McCain voters were as ignorant.
>I don’t give the 0bama voters the benefit of the doubt for being ignorant,
>because even if they are ignorant, it is willful ignorance.
That’s my point exactly; their ignorance is certainly a subset of stupid.
Stupid doesn’t have mal intent.
Wilful ignorance DOES. These people intentionally ignored all the evidence against him in order to feel good about electing a black man.
>Stupid doesn’t have mal intent.
I disagree... stupid certainly CAN have malicious intent; though they’re usually well-versed enough in self-deception that they fully believe themselves to be more than perfectly right.
You are strectching the meaning of the words to make them fit, IMHO. Not sure what the purpose is, so I’m not going to pursue the matter further. After all, I’m not Mr. English-Usage-Authority. What I use words for is what I have read them used for. If I use them otherwise, I tend to make it clear that I am doing so. I find the word ‘ignorant’ to properly classify the intentionally ignorant and to distinguish them from the ‘stupid’, who don’t know better and possibly can’t be taught to know better. The latter I might well try to help avoid catastrophe. The former I will let dangle on the rope they have gone and fetched for themselves.
In any case, those who are being wilfully blind about all this are not going to be somehow preserved from the effects. They might even be hurt far more than you and I. After all, you and I are quite aware of what can happen and that bad social, economic and political effects are highly likely to happen, given the present course and declared intentions. So, we’ll come out damaged but generally okay. They might well get run over. Not pretty. Not what anyone deserves, but justice sometimes means that those who refuse to look both ways crossing streets get put in hospital. If the case is sufficiently pitiful, perhaps they might merit a visit to commisserate.
>Not what anyone deserves, but justice sometimes means that those who refuse to look both ways crossing streets get put in hospital. If the case is sufficiently pitiful, perhaps they might merit a visit to commisserate.
Really? I would say that Justice is what everyone deserves; and yet no-one wants. It is Justice that will demand accountability for every idle word and every deed when God judges all of mankind.
It is Justice that we, evil and debased humanity, should be destroyed.
It is Mercy and Grace, and frankly God’s Love, that He allows us many, many “second-chances”... and THE way to escape damnation by way of Jesus.
Well, I can’t disagree with that. But then, I don’t expect God to interfere with a nation intent on destroying itself and making a very noisy and obnoxious point about dissing Him in the process. If He let Israel be ground under by no fewer than four major ancient empires, He’s not going to cavil at letting America grind itself up.
And I think that would be rough but appropriate Justice. I just know that I am set as a Watchman who is called to point these things out, just as you have, and to assert in no uncertain terms what is forever true and what is just a mundane, destructive and hopefully passing fancy.
The ignorant will have to fend for themselves, apres le Deluge they themselves will have caused.
Ignorance....what politicians and tyrants depend on. It’s worked for centuries. Stunning to find out we are more stupid than our 18th century ancestors.
bttt
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