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Ohio plumber Joe Wurzelbacher talks about his dialogue with Obama and spreading the wealth
Warren Throckmorton Blog ^ | October 15th, 2008 by Warren | Warren Throckmorton

Posted on 10/16/2008 12:19:36 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

UPDATE: Joe Wurzelbacher held a news conference this morning at his Holland, Ohio home. Holland is about 8 miles from Toledo.

In a prior post, I referenced a conversation between a plumber and Obama on a campaign stop in Toledo Ohio. The questioner’s name was Joe Wurzelbacher and he has gotten a bit of attention surrounding the YouTube video. An advocacy group Family Security Matters secured an interview with Mr. Wurzelbacher and I think it is worth the read. Mr. Wurzelbacher seems thoughtful and expresses many concerns many conservatives and small business owners have about the Obama tax plan. Here are some excerpts:

At a recent campaign appearance in Ohio, Sen. Obama was approached by plumber Joe Wurzelbacher, who has concerns about Obama’s proposed tax policies. FamilySecurityMatters.org’s Pam Meister had a candid conversation with him about his experience.

PAM MEISTER: You recently met Sen. Obama on the campaign trail in Ohio, and you asked him a question about his tax policies. What exactly was your question for him?

JOE WURZELBACHER: Initially, I started off asking him if he believed in the American Dream and he said yes, he does – and then I proceeded to ask him then why he’s penalizing me for trying to fulfill it. He asked, “what do you mean,” and I explained to him that I’m planning on purchasing this company – it’s not something I’m gonna purchase outright, it’s something I’m going to have to make payments on for years – but essentially I’m going to buy this company, and the profits generated by that could possibly put me in that tax bracket he’s talking about and that bothers me. It’s not like I would be rich; I would still just be a working plumber. I work hard for my money, and the fact that he thinks I make a little too much that he just wants to redistribute it to other people. Some of them might need it, but at the same time, it’s not their discretion to do it – it’s mine.

Regarding Obama’s statement that he didn’t want to punish success:

PM: …taxing small businesses making $250,000 and above is going to help the people “behind you.” And yes, “spreading the wealth around.” How did you feel about that?

JW: As soon as he said it, he contradicted himself. He doesn’t want to “punish” me, but – when you use the word “but,” you pretty much negate everything you just said prior to that. So he does want to punish me, he does want to punish me for working harder to – you know, my big thing is the American Dream. I work hard. You know, I was poor; my mom raised me and my brother by herself for a very long time until my dad came along. So I know what it’s like to suffer. It’s not like I was born with a silver spoon. Usually it was a wooden spoon and it was on my butt. It was just a contradiction of terms, what he said: he doesn’t want to punish me but he wants to redistribute my wealth. And what I mean when I say my wealth, I mean the collective. Eventually – I mean, just to sound a little silly here, but you need rich people. I mean, who are you going to work for?



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 2008; elections; joeplumbervsjoebiden; joetheplumber; joetheplunber; mccain; nobama08; obama; obamataxplan; spreadthewealth; wurzelbacher
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1 posted on 10/16/2008 12:19:36 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Youtube - Joe Biden Insults Joe the Plumber and All Small Business Owners



2 posted on 10/16/2008 12:21:20 PM PDT by Fred (The Democrat Party is the Nadir of Nihilism)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
It was just a contradiction of terms, what he said: he doesn’t want to punish me but he wants to redistribute my wealth.

Most libs I know think this way - that we can "redistribute wealth" and pay for all these socialist programs without causing any harm to anyone.

3 posted on 10/16/2008 12:21:45 PM PDT by MrB (0bama supporters: What's the attraction? The Marxism or the Infanticide?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Very much so. You start giving people stuff, and then they start expecting it – and that scares me. A lot of people expect it now. They get upset when their check’s late, they get upset when they don’t get as many benefits as they used to, or when different government agencies are cut or spending is cut here and there for whatever reason – people get upset at that. And that’s because they’re used to getting it and they want more. I mean, everyone’s always gonna want more. People work the system left and right to get more out of welfare, to get more out of state assistance, federal assistance. And if government’s there for them, they’re gonna keep on trying to manipulate it to get more out of it.

Alexander Tytler put the same thought in academician's terms, but Joe the Plumber speaks like Thomas Paine. It's the "language of the taproom".

We need to bottle this stuff and sell it.

4 posted on 10/16/2008 12:26:16 PM PDT by Publius (Atlas is shrugging.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“It’s not like I was born with a silver spoon. Usually it was a wooden spoon and it was on my butt.”

I’m really liking Joe the Plumber. :)


5 posted on 10/16/2008 12:26:39 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (Marxist Obama will trash the USA for the next 30 years. Vote McCain!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Put this guy in charge of the IRS.


6 posted on 10/16/2008 12:29:21 PM PDT by ikka
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
So I know what it’s like to suffer. It’s not like I was born with a silver spoon. Usually it was a wooden spoon and it was on my butt.

Preach it, Brother Joe!

7 posted on 10/16/2008 12:30:01 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (We're counting on you to drag the old codger across the finish line first, Sarah!)
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To: MrB
Most libs I know think this way - that we can "redistribute wealth"

They want to redistribute OUR wealth, not THEIRS!

8 posted on 10/16/2008 12:33:32 PM PDT by twhitak
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I see they are already trying to destroy Joe the plumber

MSN on the front page JOE DOESNT EVEN HAVE A LICENSE

PLEASE EMail them if you are a plumber to explain to these nutcases what is up!!

They really don get it!


9 posted on 10/16/2008 12:36:54 PM PDT by Texas4ever (!WHO IS OBAMA?)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

I’ll like him if he’s smart enough to vote McCain.


10 posted on 10/16/2008 12:39:16 PM PDT by Post Toasties (It's not a smear if it's true.)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

I’ll like him if he’s smart enough to vote McCain.


11 posted on 10/16/2008 12:39:19 PM PDT by Post Toasties (It's not a smear if it's true.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

HOLY CRIPES!!!!!!!!!!!!! This Guy is from my Hometown! I have GOT to call my Mom and see where this Guy lives and what his Business name is. If He’s a Commercial Plumber, my Company has probably done business with him! This is TOO unreal! You can’t make this stuff up!

Go get’em Joe! Show him how a REAL Toledoan is!


12 posted on 10/16/2008 12:51:02 PM PDT by shredderman (Living in a Blue State, with a Blue Wife, But I'm Red to the bone.....)
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To: Texas4ever

It takes the MSM hours to report that Joe doesn’t have a license, but they have yet to report that nObama still hasn’t produced a birth certificate?


13 posted on 10/16/2008 12:54:27 PM PDT by Hurricane Andrew (History teaches that wars begin when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap.)
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To: shredderman

keep us updated...he seems to be rather articulate.


14 posted on 10/16/2008 1:08:05 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: shredderman

If she gets a hold of him, tell him to watch his back
MSM is all over him...like vultures....he needs to avoid the MSM.....
He reminds me of those firemen in the Sprint commercial

PEOPLE SAY WE NEED CLEAN WATER...AYE! DONE

easiest job Iv’e ever done ;) Real People, Real Solutions!


15 posted on 10/16/2008 1:20:57 PM PDT by Texas4ever (!WHO IS OBAMA?)
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To: Texas4ever
MSN on the front page JOE DOESNT EVEN HAVE A LICENSE

Oh my god, the humanity! /s

16 posted on 10/16/2008 1:23:56 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Texas4ever

Will do everyone. I have to wait until she gets home from work (school bus driver for Sylvania Twp over 35 years)


17 posted on 10/16/2008 1:32:17 PM PDT by shredderman (Living in a Blue State, with a Blue Wife, But I'm Red to the bone.....)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Ping!


18 posted on 10/16/2008 1:33:46 PM PDT by VigilantAmerican (We will not waver, we will not tire; we will not falter, we will not fail)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert
That wooden spoon remark made me laugh too. The funniest thing is that most libs probably have no idea what that means. Their parents never disciplined them, so that remark goes right over their heads.

My mother kept the wooden spoon in her purse. If my brother and I started fighting in the car, she would take it out and set it on the dashboard. Immediate, total silence.

19 posted on 10/16/2008 1:35:09 PM PDT by ponygirl
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I love it. This guy isn’t just some doofus; he actually understands economics to enough of an extent to influence this election by his mere having talked with Hussein on camera, been the subject of the last debate, and now being hounded and interviewed by the media.


20 posted on 10/16/2008 1:39:08 PM PDT by VigilantAmerican (We will not waver, we will not tire; we will not falter, we will not fail)
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