Big: Scrubbed Web Pages Resurface Naming Obama As Member of Expressly-Leftist "New Party"

Ace of Spades ^ | 10/8/08 | Ace

[PajamaTruthMafia]

Big: Scrubbed Web Pages Resurface Naming Obama As Member of Expressly-Leftist "New Party"

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We spent a month on Palin's nonexistent membership in the AIP.

Anyone think the MSM will follow-up here?

The New Party was a radical left organization, established in 1992, to amalgamate far left groups and push the United States into socialism by forcing the Democratic Party to the left. It was an attempt to regroup the forces on the left in a new strategy to take power, burrowing from within. The party only lasted until 1998, when its strategy of “fusion” failed to withstand a Supreme Court ruling, but after, but the membership, including Barack Obama, continued to move the Democrats leftward with spectacular success.

More at Nice Deb. Actually not much more, but instead a nice tiny-bites digest.

First Link: Since this guy did the detective work, maybe check him first.

Look, there has long been speculation that this asshole didn't meet Ayers in Chicago, but rather at Columbia, where both were when Obama was there. The suspicion is that Ayers is hardly "just a guy from a neighborhood," but rather a mentor who shaped his career -- including getting him a job as a community activist.

Does this prove that? Not yet. We'll see.

Bleg: Can someone -- multiple people, really -- start backing up the archive.org pages Politically Drunk found, before they are disappeared?

No Quarter Has More; Pardon the lack of hat tip, I'm just scrambling to get this up.

No Quarter has more. A reader calls it "pretty well sourced."

[PajamaTruthMafia]

[rodguy911]

This could be big! We were all over it on the Rush thread. We need to make sure all the right people get this.

[Travis McGee]

[BlueStateBlues]

New Party membership. We got Obama with this. Look at the list, Danny Davis was a member with Bart, ah, Barry. Davis was the nutcase who honored Rev. Moon as the King of the Universe or some such a few years ago. Who else was a member?

[goodnesswins]

bump.....I’m emailing to Rush.....is anyone passing it one to others??? Hannity?

[GOPinCa]

Yes, I have been emailing talk radio hosts across the country all day. I’ve been sending them these three links:

http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng42.html

http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng47.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20010306031216/www.newparty.org/up9610.html

[rodguy911]

As much as we have been hitting this today they will have to “try and miss it” not to get this one, we will hit it again on the Levin thread tonight.
Who gets credit for discovering this whole thing?

[DoughtyOne]

Two good ones there Travis.

[GOPinCa]

It doesn’t matter who gets credit. Just get it out there. I think this is big. And it’s especially important because it comes directly from these socialist party websites.

[bobsunshine]

Initial Thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2100378/posts

[ladyvet]

someone’s got some splainin to do......

[LikeLight]

Unmasked Radical Subversive 0bama

[Islander7]

You know, I see this as a setup. Obamabots are so far gone. There is no way to reach them.

We can scream for the truth after the election and Obama only has to say “my past is an open book, all this is on the Internet. American’s want MY vision for the future.”

[ransomnote]

Re: Credit for this work
According to Ace of Spades (ace.mu.nu), the blogger behind PoliticallyDrunk.blogspot.com did the original legwork.

[Columbo]

Yes, good work by all!

I think we’re on to something :) Just need to connect all the dots. So far we’ve got Obama as a confirmed New Party member who may have had to sign some sort of contract with ‘em. he also was tied closely to the DSA socialists, receiving mutliple endorsements and speaking as a panel member at their forums.

here’s something else:

This links ACORN explicitly with the New Party :)

http://web.archive.org/web/20010421194739/www.acorn.org/acorn-reports/acornrep.politics.content.html

[rodguy911]

I was more interested in quoting a source for the source sort of a journalistic type thing I know it doesn't matter,thanks.

[rodguy911]

Thanks much apprecaited.

[onemiddleamerican]

OK, who's saving these archived pages? We all should be, and not thinking, "Oh, somebody else will save it."

Now, I'm off to start saving stuff; just in case...

[Enchante]

Obama has LIED comprehensively and continuously about his background, beliefs, and associations.

If he were honest and open about the fact that he is working to further the cause of radical SOCIALISM in America then of course he could not even get elected dog-catcher outside of a few college towns and left-liberal cities.

Now the campaign issue for the next 3+ weeks is not only that he has LIED about his BBA (”background, beliefs, associations”) but that once the public know who he really is and what he really stands for, his campaign is doomed. In this case it is both the original lies and the cover-ups that should doom his campaign.

[Loyolas Mattman]

Zero should ask Gunga Dan Rather about what it’s like being on the business end of the Pajamadeen.

Make sure all of the top talk radio guys and girls get this. Local and National. Rush, Sean, and Levin probably have 45 copies already. Hit the local guys so we have total coverage.

[Loyolas Mattman]

Have you hit Mark Davis out of Dallas yet? He’s a good one. I used to love his Sunday ABC syndicated show.

Drudge, too.

[onemiddleamerican]

Saved...

[rodguy911]

Lets hope,time is not on our side. We need to get this out asap. The closer it gets to d-day the harder it is to make documentation of this kind of stuff stick, no matter how good the sourcing is.

[tallyhoe]

The New Party was a third political party in the United States that tried to re-introduce the practice of electoral fusion as a political strategy for labor unions and community organizing groups. In electoral fusion, the same candidate receives nomination from more than one political party and occupies more than one ballot line. Fusion was once common in the United States but is now commonly practiced only in New York State, although it is allowed by law in seven other states. The party was active from 1992 to 1998. There had been an earlier New Party in 1968 that ran Eugene McCarthy for President.

The New Party was founded in the early 1990s by Daniel Cantor, a former staffer for Jesse Jackson’s 1988 presidential campaign, and by sociology and law professor Joel Rogers as an effort to break with the largely unsuccessful history of left-leaning third parties in the United States.

The party could best be described as social democratic in orientation, although party statements almost invariably used the terms “small-d democratic” or “progressive” instead. Its founders chose the name “New Party” in an effort to strike a fresh tone, free of associations with dogmas and ideological debates.

After a false start in New York, the New Party built modestly successful chapters in several states. Some of these chapters — such as those in Chicago and Little Rock — had their main bases of support in the low-income community organizing group ACORN, along with some support from various labor unions (especially ACORN-allied locals of the Service Employees International Union). Other chapters — such as those in Minneapolis, Minnesota, Missoula, Montana, Montgomery County, Maryland, and Dane County, Wisconsin, received institutional support from a variety of other labor unions and community organizations. These chapters built local political organizations that ran or endorsed candidates, primarily in local non-partisan races but with occasional forays into Democratic Party primaries or (more rarely) traditional third party-style independent candidacies as well. The party’s chapters elected or helped to elect dozens of candidates. Party chapters were also active between elections, pressuring elected officials to pass legislation on issues such as living wages and affordable housing.

Left-wing critics of the New Party, such as supporters of the Green Party, argued that the New Party was merely a pressure group on the fringes of the Democratic Party, rather than a genuinely new political party. New Party leaders argued that classic third-party strategies were doomed to failure, but that the Democratic Party was too entrenched and undemocratic to be a useful institution for “small-d democrats” either, even if they could succeed in taking it over, and so a new kind of organization was needed.

Although the party’s founders hoped to foster a shift toward electoral fusion, thereby making a multi-party electoral system possible in the United States, they were not successful in doing so. Their hopes rested largely on the U.S. Supreme Court case Timmons v. Twin Cities Area New Party. In 1997, the Court rejected the New Party’s argument that electoral fusion was a right protected by the First Amendment’s freedom of association clause. This 6-3 decision marked the first time that the Court enshrined the two-party system as a fundamental feature of the US electoral system.

After the Timmons case, the New Party quickly declined. Several chapters — initially, those chapters not connected with ACORN — disaffiliated. Perhaps the only and certainly the most successful surviving local chapter, known as Progressive Dane, remains active and relevant in Dane County, Wisconsin. Cantor and other key staff members left to found the Working Families Party of New York (1998), an organization which has had considerable success in building a New Party-style organization within New York state, and which is now exploring possibilities for expanding into other states.

[Columbo]

As far as who gets credit, it doesn’t matter, really. :) The other thread has the initial blog-post and we’ve all been running with it since this morning.

I just want it to get it out there loud and clear.

[rodguy911]

If Hannity would run with this we would be home free.

[rodguy911]

For sure,only thing is any body with a huge audience will want as much sourcing as possible. Even then it’s tough as we get closer to the end to get this stuff out.

[pctech]

Does anyone know if McCain/Palin know about this? This could be his death knell if McCain can call him “a card carrying socialist” in the next debate.

[Loyolas Mattman]

Of the top three guys, Levin is most likely to run with it. Rush is the least. It only takes one for the story to start to grow some legs.

Sean may be pissed enough to go with the story after his run-in with Robert Gibbs last night.

[ransomnote]

I think by ‘credit’ he meant ‘attribution of original source’ and I was glad that he asked, because the source can sometimes tell us something about the quality of info and credibility etc. Also, I think a nod in the direction of those who invest time and effort that may just save us an onslaught of socialism is appropriate. I do look at the names of all who are pushing this stuff into the light, including yourself, with appreciation. It’s good to know this stuff, have our ducks in a row etc. IMHO.

[coconutt2000]

This could be his death knell if McCain can call him “a card carrying socialist” in the next debate.

Obama's flaws are so unbelievable that many people think we're making them up. Obama's campaign also does a decent job of deflecting truthful criticisms by using the MSM to attack the critics on different grounds, changing the focus from whatever flaw of his that happens to be the news of the moment.

[Columbo]

make sure this link gets saved as well. It contains Obama’s DSA endorsement and shows that he was a panel member at a DSA forum on the economy. He later received praise for his socialist comments at this forum. I’ll post that link as well:

http://web.archive.org/web/20010906162143/www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng45.html

Quote about his socialist economics:

“When Obama participated in a 1996 UofC YDS Townhall Meeting on Economic Insecurity, much of what he had to say was well within the mainstream of European social democracy.”

http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng69.html#anchor540108

[Plutarch]

Rob Curnock , candidate for Texas' District 17 U.S. House seat, is already using this today. According to the Cleburne Times-Review :

“ Pelosi and Barack are our best campaigners in District 17,” Curnock said...

“My opponent supports a man who’s an avowed socialist at the top of the ticket".

Avowed socialist. That is the phrase that pays.

[rodguy911]

Sean would be awesome! No one repeats stuff more than he does.I wonder if anyone has sent this to McCain/Palin yet or if they know about it?

[Perdogg]

http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng42.html#anchor792932 by Bruce Bentley

About 50 activists attended the Chicago New Party membership meeting in July. The purpose of the meeting was to update members on local activities and to hear appeals for NP support from four potential political candidates. The NP is being very active in organization building and politics. There are 300 members in Chicago. In order to build an organizational and financial base the NP is sponsoring house parties. Locally it has been successful both fiscally and in building a grassroots base. Nationwide it has resulted in 1000 people committed to monthly contributions. The NP's political strategy is to support progressive candidates in elections only if they have a concrete chance to "win". This has resulted in a winning ratio of 77 of 110 elections. Candidates must be approved via a NP political committee. Once approved, candidates must sign a contract with the NP. The contract mandates that they must have a visible and active relationship with the NP.

The political entourage included Alderman Michael Chandler, William Delgado, chief of staff for State Rep Miguel del Valle, and spokespersons for State Sen. Alice Palmer, Sonya Sanchez, chief of staff for State Sen. Jesse Garcia, who is running for State Rep in Garcia's District; and Barack Obama, chief of staff for State Sen. Alice Palmer. Obama is running for Palmer's vacant seat.

Michael Chandler thanked the NP for its support in his electoral victory. His achievements to date included obtaining an increase of 30 police in the 24th Ward, citizen involvement in street clean-up and establishment of a 24th Ward Organization. William Delgado is exploring whether to run for State Rep in the 3rd District. He is a former social worker and spoke with compassion and dynamism. He considers himself a community activist who wants to be an advocate for change in the community. His presence in political office would be a benefit to the democratic left.

Indeed it was an exciting evening because the NP has two crucial components. First, the NP is a true "Rainbow Coalition" consisting of both young and aged African-Americans, Hispanics and Caucasians. Although ACORN and SEIU Local 880 were the harbingers of the NP there was a strong presence of CoC and DSA (15% DSA). Moreover a good 8% were younger Generation X'ers who are critically needed. A more diverse representation of Labor is missing. Secondly, the NP is taking "action." Four political candidates were "there" seeking NP support. The NP is strategically organizing via house parties and tactically entering only elections that they can win. Furthermore they are organizing a campaign on the "Living Wage Ordinance" in the Chicago City Council.

The NP has the following working committees: political, membership/fund-raising, public relations, and legal/finance. If you would be interested in participating in one of these committees or in helping out with any other New Party activities, contact Jeff Caveney at (312) 939-7490.

[GOPinCa]

Well the source happens to be the socialist party websites themselves. Here they are:

http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng42.html

http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng47.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20010306031216/www.newparty.org/up9610.html

[rodguy911]

Amazing, this stuff should stick!

[Columbo]

Ok, I see what you mean by credit. What’s good about this story is that all the sourcing is straight from the horse’s mouth...from the DSA and other progressive Chicago orgs web sites.

The American Thinker has already put a post together on it and we have the blog post from this morning as far as folks trying to tie it all together.

[ransomnote]

Thank you, GOPinCa
By the way, is that Canada or California? I am in California.

[papasmurf]

I dl'd it. It's HERE in an 18kb zip file...newparty01.zip. Hope it helps.

[Preachin']

Get this to Matt Drudge.

[neal1960]

Wow. I’m getting a tingle down my leg!

[tutstar]

bump

[Red Steel]

We should’ve guessed! Obama is going down.

[Columbo]

I really want to know what was in that contract Obama would have had to sign to be an endorsed New Party candidate.

[tallyhoe]

Scope this out!

http://feedlot.blogspot.com/2008/02/barack-obamas-marxist-plan-for-america.html

[NavVet]

It is hard to imagine at this point, what the media would actually consider a scandal when it comes to obama. Coke, marijuana, racist comments in his own biography, attending a racist/marxist church for 20 years, allied with domestic terrorist, law school paid for by racist, anti-semite (who didn’t just pick Barack out of the crowd for that purpose). Campaigning for a politician that had recently taken the machete to his opponents.

He could be a membeer of the Nazi and Communist parties and the media would excuse it.

[Red Steel]

You need to check this out.

[babyfreep]

This could be his death knell if McCain can call him “a card carrying socialist” in the next debate.

I hate to say it but FAT CHANCE! (We can dream, though.)