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Millions held in hedge funds lockdown
FT ^ | 10/01/08 | James Mackintosh

Posted on 10/02/2008 4:47:17 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Millions held in hedge funds lockdown

By James Mackintosh

Published: October 1 2008 23:43 | Last updated: October 1 2008 23:43

An increasing number of hedge funds are telling customers they cannot have their money back as rising withdrawals and exposure to Lehman Brothers hit the industry.

The inability to access money has already had a knock-on effect: Absolute Return Partners’ Millennium Wave, a small fund of hedge funds, has had to tell its customers they cannot have their money back until it can retrieve it from the funds in which it invests.

Luqman Arnold’s Olivant is also struggling to access its shares in UBS, which are stuck at Lehman’s London arm, meaning it will not be able to vote them until they are returned by Lehman administrators.

This week was the final date for clients to put in re-demption requests for many funds in order to get their money back by the end of the year, and the industry is worried about the scale of withdrawals.

In particular, funds of hedge funds servicing wealthy individuals have been bombarded with re-quests for billions of dollars of withdrawals

(Excerpt) Read more at ft.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hedgefund; lehman; lockdown; redemption
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1 posted on 10/02/2008 4:47:18 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Uncle Ike; RSmithOpt; jiggyboy; 2banana; Travis McGee; OwenKellogg; 31R1O; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 10/02/2008 4:47:47 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

They must not have told their investors hedge funds are high risk.


3 posted on 10/02/2008 4:49:20 PM PDT by Tarpon (Barrack Obama will ban all the guns he has the votes for ...)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

FDIC insured accounts are for the little people.


4 posted on 10/02/2008 4:49:40 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I think we see why the Dems were so desperate to have the bailout.


5 posted on 10/02/2008 4:50:16 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Sounds like these “hedge” funds forgot to hedge.


6 posted on 10/02/2008 4:53:37 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: TigerLikesRooster

We’re gonna have to print a hell of a lot more money to cover all this, I’m thinking.


7 posted on 10/02/2008 4:58:23 PM PDT by Argus (Obama: All turban and no goats.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXbvmYeBnHU&feature=related


8 posted on 10/02/2008 4:59:32 PM PDT by djf (Sound of gunfire, off in the distance, I'm getting used to that now...)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Wonder how long before this trickles down to 401K’s and IRA’s? I swear, I have been considering closing out my 401 and IRA and taking the tax and penalty hit just to have the cash in hand.


9 posted on 10/02/2008 5:05:54 PM PDT by saganite (Obama is a political STD)
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To: Argus

How much of Paulson’s $700B will end up in the Cayman Islands?


10 posted on 10/02/2008 5:05:56 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: oblomov
Sounds like these “hedge” funds forgot to hedge.

100% long, 100% short, and fully hedged hedge funds were all caught up in the failure of LBIE.

Hedging against the failure of one's prime broker is not even possible, although certainly the fund managers should have been well aware of the risk to their assets if they remained with an insolvent PB.

jas3
11 posted on 10/02/2008 5:06:48 PM PDT by jas3
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To: All

RISKY INVESTMENTS!


12 posted on 10/02/2008 5:07:41 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I was just reading about some dude that has $450 million that he can’t access....just sold his shipping company


13 posted on 10/02/2008 5:08:24 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: AndyJackson
How much of Paulson’s $700B will end up in the Cayman Islands?

Relatively little.

The bailout is designed to recapitalize (mostly but not entirely domestic) commercial and investment banks, not hedge funds.

jas3
14 posted on 10/02/2008 5:08:42 PM PDT by jas3
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald
I have been considering closing out my 401 and IRA and taking the tax and penalty hit just to have the cash in hand.

50 cents on the dollar?

15 posted on 10/02/2008 5:09:13 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: saganite
Wonder how long before this trickles down to 401K’s and IRA’s? I swear, I have been considering closing out my 401 and IRA and taking the tax and penalty hit just to have the cash in hand.

Dunno if I'd do that ... converting it to cash holdings for a while? Heck yeah.

16 posted on 10/02/2008 5:09:27 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (McCain/Palin 2008 : Palin the Paladin 2012)
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

The irony is that many hedge funds exist purely to mitigate risk, which is not possible inside a mutual fund thanks to Uncle Sucker’s regulations.

Hedge funds with very low risk profiles were caught up in the LBIE filing along with those with very high risk profiles.

jas3


17 posted on 10/02/2008 5:10:16 PM PDT by jas3
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To: jas3

That is what Paulson said, and I believe him.


18 posted on 10/02/2008 5:11:45 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This is the real BS behind the Bailout... Hedge funds are collapsing and all those really really rich folks who are going to lose their shirts aren’t going to go down without getting congress to bail them out... not to mention that many states moved their retirment pension funds etc into Hedge Funds as well... So they won’t let them go down.

THat’s what this bailout is about folks, it ain’t about the average joe at all.


19 posted on 10/02/2008 5:12:05 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Doesn’t exactly fit on this thread, but is financial in nature and not important enough for a new thread:

WaMu assets are being rated a couple billion dollars downward.

The reason???
WaMu held a couple billion dollars of it’s own stock.

I thought that was illegal?


20 posted on 10/02/2008 5:13:40 PM PDT by djf (Sound of gunfire, off in the distance, I'm getting used to that now...)
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