Posted on 10/02/2008 6:01:17 AM PDT by TPOOH
Excerpt..... A new policy banning Virginia State Police chaplains from saying Jesus,’ Christ’ during prayer is stirring up a lot of controversy. Six chaplains have already resigned over the issue. “In the bible it says to pray in Jesus name,” said Charlotte Ryan, Johnson City, Tennessee resident. Claude Duncan from Johnson City is also against the prayer policy change. “I think it’s a terrible thing that they would create such a thing that would deny us the privilege of praying in the name of our savor, Jesus Christ,” Duncan said. We found strong opposition on Monday to a decision.........
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Hmmm.
All I can say to that is jesus what a dumb policy.
This story came up last week.
I asked "Why are there chaplains on the payroll of Va State Police, anyway?"
Got no answer.
What are they going to require next, that the state police stop enforcing the law?
No comment.
But it’s still ok for them to use Jesus’s name in vain when the cops feel the need to. Why not use the name Mohammmed.
They can’t be part of an state organization which requires that they deny a basic element of their faith.
Simple.
I believe they are regular troopers, doing chaplain work as an aside, with no pay for it.
I’m confused by these Tennessee residents’ being Virginia Highway Patrol functionaries. Or are they just interviewing random Johnson City residents who can’t spell or capitalize correctly?
Let’s also ban Muslims from saying “Allah”
And let’s ban Jews from saying “God”
And let’s ban ....
It’s stupid.
We’re adults in America. We recognize other religions, and if we’re going to ask some religious person to pray or speak, then we should expect Christians to be Christian, Muslims to be Muslim, and Jews to be Jewish.
The who “ban” thing is infantile thinking that ignores the realities of religion in America.
I’d rather they just quit scheduling prayers.
I believe this is similar to the policy for military chaplains.
“I’m confused by these Tennessee residents’ being Virginia Highway Patrol functionaries. Or are they just interviewing random Johnson City residents who can’t spell or capitalize correctly?”
Thank the National Edu-cRat Association for their successful actualization of Antonio Gramsci’s agenda in Virginia schools.
I would blame the article's author, who ironically named Bill Christian.
I would blame the article's author, who is ironically named Bill Christian.
Is that another way of saying "State Chaplains" which implies "State religion" to me. Just how fast is this state religion growing comrades?
Maybe they can start with prayer outside the building and pray forcefully in the name of our LORD. Those who want to attend attend. Those who don’t believe can simply attend the meeting. Get the government out of the prayer entirely, so the prayer can be meaningful again. We can rail against the first amendment all we want, but the fact is that the government has infringed upon religion and will continue to do so. The good old days are gone.
When the Muslims have their turn to pray, it can be the same deal. Or even have several faiths represented outside at once.
I think we’ve passed the point where Jesus will be allowed into our institutions in any form other than “the Mush God”. But we need him so badly, we simply have to return to him in a strong unadulterated faith.
I have a feeling if this was done, most people would join together for a Christian prayer. Those religious leaders who have no followers will pray alone or eventually go home.
with all the shit cops go through,( all day, every day) you don’t think they may ask for spiritual guidance?
“I asked “Why are there chaplains on the payroll of Va State Police, anyway?””
My two cents worth: Police frequently deal in traumatic events and sometimes there is a need for quick resort to religiously-based counseling. Now, I don’t believe for a moment that such services couldn’t be provided by outside people, either on a volunteer or contract basis. The fact that troopers themselves are chaplains make me a little suspicious that the program is used to supplement income while maintaining a low baseline pay for the troopers. This allows troopers to cry poverty while collecting extra income in special programs such as this one. (Sorry, I’m cynical of government unionized employees. I live in California where the prison guard union and law enforcement unions regularly use their clout to hit up taxpayers. Teachers use the same strategy where they sign up for extra duty and collect thousands more in income without having to admit that teacher pay is higher than the books report.)
That said, if the state police organization decides to have a chaplain program, rather than a secular counseling program, then it ought not try to dictate how religious people practice their religions.
I would hope they’d all resign rather than play along with this crap. If they were not receiving any pay for their function as chaplains, I guess resigning doesn’t have any impact on them at all. Of course, they’ll probably end up with a bunch of mooslim chaplains.
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