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Obama's Church
By Investers Business Daily ^ | Jan 20, 2008 | By Investers Business Daily

Posted on 09/20/2008 11:25:41 PM PDT by tallyhoe

Election 2008: Since we first drew attention to Barack Obama's Afrocentric church a full 12 months ago, other media have weighed in. And additional disturbing information has come to light. At the core of the Democratic front-runner's faith — whether lapsed Muslim, new Christian or some mixture of the two — is African nativism, which raises political issues of its own.

In 1991, when Obama joined the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, he pledged allegiance to something called the Black Value System, which is a code of non-Biblical ethics written by blacks, for blacks. Wright makes the Rev. Jesse Jackson look almost moderate and patriotic. Yet this is whom Obama picked to baptize his daughters, plus to act as his "sounding board" during his presidential run.

The candidate already has heeded his church's "nonnegotiable commitment to Africa," spending an inordinate amount of his campaign time on the Kenyan crisis, for one. Obama has close family ties to Kenya, and even founded a school in his ancestral village — the Senator Obama School.

In the bloody conflict there, which already has claimed some 700 lives, Obama appears to have sided with opposition leader Raila Odinga, head of the same Luo tribe to which Obama's late Muslim father belonged.

Obama's older brother still lives there. Abongo "Roy" Obama is a Luo activist and a militant Muslim who argues that the black man must "liberate himself from the poisoning influences of European culture." He urges his younger brother to embrace his African heritage.

Beyond family politics, these ties have potential foreign policy, even national security, implications.

Odinga is a Marxist who reportedly has made a pact with a hard-line Islamic group in Kenya to establish Shariah courts throughout the country.

(Excerpt) Read more at ibdeditorials.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: kenya; obama; obamabiden; obamatruthfile; odinga; trinityucc
BBC April 13, 2008 President Mwai Kibaki named opposition leader Raila Odinga as the new prime minister, after the pair agreed the deal on Saturday in secret talks.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7345318.stm

1 posted on 09/20/2008 11:25:41 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: tallyhoe
For someone who has written several books about his life, why is it that Obama remains such an enigma? Do we really know who this guy is?
2 posted on 09/20/2008 11:56:47 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

NO WE DON’T !!!!!


3 posted on 09/21/2008 12:03:02 AM PDT by Deetes ( (God Bless the Troops) .)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Yeah, he’s a garden variety communist.


4 posted on 09/21/2008 12:05:27 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

We don’t even know who wrote his autobiogrpahy. Jack Cashill is making a pretty good case that the unrepentant terrorist William Ayers may have written at least one of Obama’s books for him.


5 posted on 09/21/2008 12:14:02 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: tallyhoe

Add yet another one to our Marxist Messiah’s list of collaborators.


6 posted on 09/21/2008 12:25:37 AM PDT by unspun (Tell the truth about Obama to all you know.)
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To: unspun

Yep! You are who you hang out with!


7 posted on 09/21/2008 12:28:51 AM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: tallyhoe

How can this be breaking news when it’s from January 15th?


8 posted on 09/21/2008 12:35:05 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod (John McCain and Sarah Palin: Reform, Prosperity, and Peace)
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To: BlessedBeGod

It’s breaking to me I never saw this before!


9 posted on 09/21/2008 12:53:18 AM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: tallyhoe

MSM response....

“...crickets....”


10 posted on 09/21/2008 1:35:56 AM PDT by wac3rd (The MSM will accompany the Captain of the SS Marxist Titanic to the bottom of Lake Michigan)
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To: silverleaf
Jack Cashill is making a pretty good case that the unrepentant terrorist William Ayers may have written at least one of Obama’s books for him.

I read that article and found it interesting.

I think a better case can be made, that Ayers "polished" Obama's fable, "Dreams..." Obama had blown one advance and accepted a second, so he had more than an outline, but not a book. As Cashill points out, some of the language in "Dreams..." had to have come from someone like an English professor.

It would have been mutually beneficial to both men who have been associated since 1985 and worked many projects together.

I have read that there are allegations that Obama had lots of friendly editors on "Audicity," including David Axelrod.
11 posted on 09/21/2008 3:26:38 AM PDT by Beckwith ('Typical White Person')
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To: Beckwith

How Kennedyesque.


12 posted on 09/21/2008 4:27:02 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
That "Senator Obama School" is just pathetic. He's one of those types desperately in need of monuments to himself. If his head were any more swelled up you could just tie a string to his ankle and float him from campaign stop to campaign stop.

Given that his close relatives are radical Islamists bent on forcing the people to bow under Sharia law, I wonder: is the Senator Obama School secular??

13 posted on 09/21/2008 4:34:48 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Terrorist organizations worldwide endorse Obama.)
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To: silverleaf
"Jack Cashill is making a pretty good case that the unrepentant terrorist William Ayers may have written at least one of Obama’s books for him"

Really? The guy Obama says he barely knows? Just some guy on his street? That would be interesting.

14 posted on 09/21/2008 4:36:32 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Terrorist organizations worldwide endorse Obama.)
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To: tallyhoe
Granting us access to the school and its records, Principal Obiero, 48, tells us: “Senator Obama has not honoured the promises he gave me when we met in 2006 and in his earlier letter to the school. He has not given us even one shilling. But we still have hope.

Literally, they have hope for change. In the form of shillings. But The One has not brought them the change he promised. From Michelle Malkin.com Which brother is it that was homeless for ten years and now lives in a shack?

15 posted on 09/21/2008 4:44:54 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Terrorist organizations worldwide endorse Obama.)
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To: Deetes

Yet this is whom Obama picked to baptize his daughters

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And let them listen to sermons for all of their lives, will they also Parrot Rev Wright?


16 posted on 09/21/2008 4:51:53 AM PDT by Son House (Palin, Has The Left Press Wailing! [MSNBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, New York Times,...])
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To: tallyhoe

If there is still a written pledge in that church, it should be made public.


17 posted on 09/21/2008 4:56:55 AM PDT by grumpa (VP)
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To: grumpa
Where are the Rev Wright ads? I thought everyone had heard of him by now and his “GD America”.

I was in my small town, red state beauty shop last week and talking about the election with the ladies there, (all are voting for McCain) but - several of them said they had never heard of Obama’s preacher or what he had said and their jaws dropped when I told them.

Bring on the Ayers and Wright ads!

18 posted on 09/21/2008 5:31:09 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: tallyhoe

The story of Obama campaigning for murderous Muslim-backed Odinga:
http://www.themidnightsun.org/?p=1613

Photocopy of Odinga/Muslim pact and more on this story:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2055802/posts

I suggest reading the fantastic file by our fellow FReeper, Beckwith.
The Obama File
http://theobamafile.com/


19 posted on 09/21/2008 5:37:00 AM PDT by patriot08
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To: cake_crumb

The “Senator Obama School” is pitiful in more ways than one.

The senator promised money to fund it, but hasn’t followed through. He got the glory, but the kids aren’t getting an education.


20 posted on 09/21/2008 5:49:37 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: tallyhoe

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT OBAMA'S CIRCLE OF FRIENDS


THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT OBAMA'S UPBRINGING

21 posted on 09/21/2008 5:52:14 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: cake_crumb

About that school in Africa:

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23520981-details/Barack+Obama’s+broken+promise+to+African+village/article.do


22 posted on 09/21/2008 5:55:22 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: BlessedBeGod

“How can this be breaking news when it’s from January 15th?”

Caught your eye, didn’t it?

Mine, too.


23 posted on 09/21/2008 6:05:40 AM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: Jedidah

What I don’t get is why people he threw under he bus because they outlived their immediate function of Highlighting His Greatness and Beneficence can still have hope, after a period of years, that such a smarmy, self absorbed con artist might still come through for them.


24 posted on 09/21/2008 6:08:52 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Terrorist organizations worldwide endorse Obama.)
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To: TornadoAlley3; grumpa
“Where are the Rev Wright ads? I thought everyone had heard of him by now and his “GD America”.

Let's see an avalanche of Rev. Wright and Obamas “friends” hit the airwaves!!! Pictures and verbiages of Wrights sermons of hatred! GET this out there McCain camp.....daily....show an image of these white hating radicals IN OUR White House and then see how many voters will vote for Obama. WE need to continually remind the voters of Obama’s friends that hate us!!!

25 posted on 09/21/2008 6:18:25 AM PDT by IndianPrincessOK (McCain/Palin...2 pit bulls, one with lipstick! Pigs will fly with lipstick Nov. 4th)
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To: miliantnutcase
Yeah, he’s a garden variety communist.

That's only half right. You're right that he's a communist, but he's a religious one, and his religion is Black Liberation Theology. It's racism wrapped in a pretty Christian package.

Obama threw Rev Wright out a couple of decades too late to make the claim that he did not know the theology of his own church.
26 posted on 09/21/2008 6:20:46 AM PDT by publiusF27
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To: IndianPrincessOK

Not to worry, Rush has said the tapes are lined up and ready for October. He doesn’t want to start too early, given peoples short retention spans.

I keep hearing about the O-Bomb being married at Trinity and his daughters being baptized there, but what about the great one himself? Was he Baptized? If not, wouldn’t he still be muslim?


27 posted on 09/21/2008 6:26:37 AM PDT by Bob from De ((All liberals may not be narcissists...but it sure seems to help))
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To: tallyhoe

bttt


28 posted on 09/21/2008 6:30:41 AM PDT by timestax
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To: tallyhoe
Odinga is a Marxist who reportedly has made a pact with a hard-line Islamic group in Kenya to establish Shariah courts throughout the country.

If Barack Hussein Obama is ideed in bed with this guy you can list this as one more reason why Obama did not choose Hillary as a running mate. And...why he may be encouraging his surrogates to trash Sarah Palin on every front.

29 posted on 09/21/2008 6:34:40 AM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: tallyhoe

This shouldn’t be in breaking news.


30 posted on 09/21/2008 6:36:53 AM PDT by sageb1 (Feminism is dead. Long live Palinism!)
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To: Jeff Head

Even in that picture with his family(?), he looks like a snob. He thinks he’s better than everyone. Pathetic.


31 posted on 09/21/2008 6:50:38 AM PDT by rom (Cold on McCain '08. Enthusiastic about McCain-Palin '08!)
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To: Bob from De

“Not to worry, Rush has said the tapes are lined up and ready for October. He doesn’t want to start too early, given peoples short retention spans.I keep hearing about the O-Bomb being married at Trinity and his daughters being baptized there, but what about the great one himself? Was he Baptized? If not, wouldn’t he still be muslim?”

Ok, I feel better already! I would LOVE to see more of Rev. Wright come out or Ayers...or Farrakhan connection, Father Phleger.....now before the tightening of this race...as from polling 85-86% of voters said they will not change their vote....BUT, will take what is coming. There is plenty, plenty of BAD STUFF, scary stuff on O...and I welcome the chickens coming home to roost!!!

As for Obamas baptizing. I doubt people of different religions really care or if there is sufficient evidence that he was not baptized. What he did in Kenya for the muslim backed election candidate and the fact both of his fathers, step father and father were MUSLIMS...and influenced him is enough to scare the dickins out of us...and should be constantly thrown on the voters. THERE is plenty of truths that need to be revealed, hammered on and reminded of voters on this guy.


32 posted on 09/21/2008 7:12:06 AM PDT by IndianPrincessOK (McCain/Palin...2 pit bulls, one with lipstick! Pigs will fly with lipstick Nov. 4th)
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To: tallyhoe

Has anyone directly asked him what he meant when he said...”If the political winds take an ugly turn I will side with the Muslims.”?
I know he was talking to Pakistanis at the time, so just what did he mean by that??
Anyone????


33 posted on 09/21/2008 7:18:20 AM PDT by jackv (Just shakin' my head...)
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To: tallyhoe

Wait a minute - didn’t I just see this on Meet the Press?

NOT!


34 posted on 09/21/2008 7:25:34 AM PDT by Joann37
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To: jackv

He meant that if there was persecution (in the aftermath of 9/11) he would protect the muslims.

Presumably


35 posted on 09/21/2008 7:44:01 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: TornadoAlley3

I believe it TA3 since I also have anecdotal evidence to support the same point.
Neighbors who are good americans but not too political were planning on sitting this election out because “they both suck”, to quote them yesterday.
Today, he is passing around the YouTube of “Nah,nah,nah, GD America, that’s in the bible for killing innocent people....” as well as the National Anthem where Barack refuses to salute the flag.
This got your average voter very fired up and I will cease arguing points in favor of Youtube doing it for me.
Here is all it took:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hPR5jnjtLo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0Q4Z8piBhw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65I0HNvTDH4


36 posted on 09/21/2008 7:53:21 AM PDT by JerseyDvl (What do Obama and Osama have in common?-They both have friends who bombed the Pentagon! - Bill Ayers)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

We do know that 50% of Americans seem not to care whether the Messiah is a socialist pacifist. This election will be decided by the debates and whether Indies and Reagan Dems realize what an incompetent this guy would be with economic issues and foreign policy. It is issues that will defeat him not race, if he is defeated and that is not for sure as of now.


37 posted on 09/21/2008 8:09:41 AM PDT by phillyfanatic
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To: cake_crumb

If history serves me correctly, don’t “dictators” have statues, monuments and buildings named after them? tito, stalin, lenin, castro, hitler, mussolini, mao, etc... now obama?


38 posted on 09/21/2008 8:26:28 AM PDT by ma bell (Screw the Illegal Aliens... ps - they are illegal aliens..not "undocumented workers")
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To: tallyhoe
My new site:

Question O-thority.com

39 posted on 09/21/2008 8:27:09 AM PDT by Silly (Question O-thority.com)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle; Deetes; silverleaf; Beckwith; cake_crumb

I’m coming around to the theory that it was Ayers who actually ghost-wrote “Dreams From my Father”. I don’t have the skills of a forensic literary analysis and I haven’t had the time to go over “Fugitive Days” but I’ve read the Cashill article that says the styles are similar.

This could be laid to rest easily but for the fact that Obama has written nothing, absolutely nothing else over his career. Which is absolutely bizarre for a former president of the Harvard Law Review (it’s actually “president”, according to the Law Review website, the student editors number about 43 and they elect a president from among themselves) and a junior constitutional law lecturer Chicago University.

It is now known that they almost certainly knew each other as far back as Obama’s Columbia University days in the early eighties.


40 posted on 09/21/2008 9:36:47 AM PDT by sinanju
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It’s great stuff. I am sure there are many clips that have been held back like this one. You can even bet that Obama flew Wright around early on in the campaign. His mentor was there for him like he is in this clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpzHQ_PC1uI


41 posted on 09/21/2008 10:15:29 AM PDT by ncfool (Obama --- "Jihad is the only true Muslim way")
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To: tallyhoe

Boronic 0bama


42 posted on 09/21/2008 10:36:50 AM PDT by Deetes ( (God Bless the Troops) .)
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To: sinanju

BOOMP


43 posted on 09/21/2008 1:20:10 PM PDT by Deetes ( (God Bless the Troops) .)
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To: Jeff Head

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QcpdUtxNQ


44 posted on 09/22/2008 4:52:10 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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