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Poll: White Democrats’ Racism Could Cost Obama White House
The Moderate Voice ^ | sept 20,2008 | JOE GANDELMAN

Posted on 09/20/2008 9:25:05 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776

A new AP-Yahoo News poll finds that white Democrats’ resistance to voting for a black man for President could cost Democratic Presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama the White House: Deep-seated racial misgivings could cost Barack Obama the White House if the election is close, according to an AP-Yahoo News poll that found one-third of white Democrats harbor negative views toward blacks — many calling them “lazy,” “violent” or responsible for their own troubles. The poll, conducted with Stanford University, suggests that the percentage of voters who may turn away from Obama because of his race could easily be larger than the final difference between the candidates in 2004 — about two and one-half percentage points.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008polls; blackvote; democrats; obama; puma; racecard; racewar; racism; whitevote
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To: madinmadtown
madinmadtown wrote: Is this really a good strategy to call your own party racist?

Didn't Obama infer that Bill Clinton was a racist, Bill Clinton dubbed "the first black president" by the NAACP.

51 posted on 09/20/2008 9:41:02 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ( Our Mamma beats your Obama)
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To: AmericanMade1776

I love this poll. Keep it up MSM and Rat leadership - keep calling your own voters racist.

You will virtually guarantee the return of Reagan Democrats to the GOP - this time likely to stay.

That is, until the Stupid Party drives them away again...


52 posted on 09/20/2008 9:41:11 AM PDT by Ogie Oglethorpe (2nd Amendment - the reboot button on the U.S. Constitution)
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To: AmericanMade1776
This is what is going on IMO. If the Democrats lose the election, they want to try and beat the race drum to the American people to hide the fact that despite 8 years of media attacks on the Republican administration, a weak economy that by default gets hung on Pres. Bush, and Democratic momentum from 06 elections, they still can't close the deal with the public.

I also KNOW that middle America is tired of being called racist and this is going to have the opposite affect.

53 posted on 09/20/2008 9:41:58 AM PDT by lt.america (Palin was McCain's Midway while Saddleback was his Coral Sea)
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To: AmericanMade1776
I do not see any polls saying: POLL: BLACK VOTERS’ RACISM COULD COST JOHN MCCAIN WHITE HOUSE.

I have to give Obama and his backers from the MSM credit for their message of hate.

They are successfully dividing the country hoping for a race war.

It is almost impossible to watch CNN,PMSNBC and the so-called big three networks.

These folks no longer are hiding their Obama bias.

Lets hope the America voter gets fed up with this crap before November 4.

I predict should Obama be elected, that in less than a year, America will be in far worse circumstances than we are now.

54 posted on 09/20/2008 9:42:44 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (The Difference Between Palin and Obama is Common Sense, She's GOT IT, He DOESN'T)
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To: lt.america

The fact of the matter is, if Obama was white, he would have been like any other junior senator, with no chance whatsoever of running for the President.


55 posted on 09/20/2008 9:43:02 AM PDT by bushsupporter30
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To: AmericanMade1776

The GOP needs to learn the identies of some of these protesters.

I suspect they are really Obama plants. Easy enough to find out — who are these folks? Mostly they hid their faces with the signs, as if they didn’t want their faces photographed.

Were they simply escorted out? Were they arrested?

Curious minds want to know.


56 posted on 09/20/2008 9:43:07 AM PDT by i_dont_chat (The elephant is dancing for the lady from Alaska)
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To: Mojave

Is Joe Lieberman a racist because he is not voting for Obama, or just a democrat who supports our troops against Terrorism?

57 posted on 09/20/2008 9:43:32 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ( Our Mamma beats your Obama)
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To: i_dont_chat

I do not think they were plants, I think they have some real issues with Obama


58 posted on 09/20/2008 9:44:36 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ( Our Mamma beats your Obama)
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To: frogjerk
RACISM will be used to keep the polls open in Philly, St. Louis and other urban areas on election night.

How else can you get a total vote of 150% of the number of registered voters?

Jack

59 posted on 09/20/2008 9:45:40 AM PDT by JackOfVA
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To: All

I’m over racism, just don’t care. I have expended all my goodwill on “boy cries wolf” everyday in the media. Racism exists on all sides, get over it...


60 posted on 09/20/2008 9:46:14 AM PDT by Maverick68 (w)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Hey Donald Trump, Obama is calling you a racist because you are endorsing McCain.

61 posted on 09/20/2008 9:46:14 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ( Our Mamma beats your Obama)
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To: AmericanMade1776

The President of the United States is NOT an Affirmative Action position.

Pray for W, McCuda and Our Troops


62 posted on 09/20/2008 9:46:21 AM PDT by bray (Drill Congress!!)
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To: Maverick68
Maverick68 wrote: I’m over racism, just don’t care. I have expended all my goodwill on “boy cries wolf” everyday in the media. Racism exists on all sides, get over it...

Well Obviously racism is on all sides, and I think Obama is playing the "RACE CARD" to make voters feel guilty if they do not vote for him, even if they think he is not qualified to be President, has no experience and is way too liberal for their views.

63 posted on 09/20/2008 9:48:00 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ( Our Mamma beats your Obama)
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To: AmericanMade1776
Is Joe Lieberman a racist because he is not voting for Obama

If Obama wins it will be because of racism.

64 posted on 09/20/2008 9:48:24 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: counterpunch

I do believe you hit the nail on the head, counterpunch.

that makes far more sense than blaming racists after they lose.

let’s hope Rush is listening.


65 posted on 09/20/2008 9:48:28 AM PDT by the crow (typical and bitter)
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To: AmericanMade1776

How about a poll: Do you Favor Socialism or Capitalism for the United States?


66 posted on 09/20/2008 9:49:15 AM PDT by paul in cape
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To: Mojave
Mojave wrote: Is Joe Lieberman a racist because he is not voting for Obama If Obama wins it will be because of racism.

Wasn't Geraldine Ferraro called racist for making similar comments.

67 posted on 09/20/2008 9:49:29 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ( Our Mamma beats your Obama)
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To: AmericanMade1776
Let's see. Reasons to vote against NObama:

A) He's Black
B) He the most Liberal Sinator
C) Judgment — i.e. Rev. Wrong

“B” & “C” are reasons for me to be against NObama!

Of course, the Media will say it is Door “A” is the reason. That we're all RACIST if Boy Wonder loses!

68 posted on 09/20/2008 9:49:58 AM PDT by TRY ONE (NUKE the unborn gay whales!)
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To: AmericanMade1776

What can I say? Orwell lives.


69 posted on 09/20/2008 9:50:35 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: AmericanMade1776

People should check this out!!!! This group is the one that protested OREObama, their term.

http://www.michaelwarns.com/


70 posted on 09/20/2008 9:50:38 AM PDT by GOYAKLA (My Tee shirt for 2009-2012:" I voted FRED don't you wish you did")
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To: AmericanMade1776

....That is Ludicrous and an Racist Poll, ..

Racist yes, ludicrous no. Where I live, there are more than just a few Dems who have stated that they will not vote for a black man. Just sayin.


71 posted on 09/20/2008 9:50:52 AM PDT by bella1 (Typical White Woman)
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To: AmericanMade1776

So apparently, given that 95% of African American’s are voting against Senator McCain, there are more black bigots, percentage wise, than white bigots.


72 posted on 09/20/2008 9:50:54 AM PDT by Swampmarine
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To: Lorianne
No doubt there are racists out there. But the kind of person who wouldn’t vote for a 1/2 black man probably wouldn’t vote for a woman either.

I was thinking the same thing. That sort of voter would have voted for Hillary! though, because it would have meant getting Bubba back in the WH.

At least, we are spared that...maybe.

73 posted on 09/20/2008 9:51:55 AM PDT by MaggieCarta (Originality is the art of concealing your sources.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

When all is said and done more blacks percentage wise will vote for Obama than Whites vote for McClain and you can bet on it.I am white and if a Conservative black ran for President I would vote for him or her.


74 posted on 09/20/2008 9:52:13 AM PDT by gunnedah
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To: AmericanMade1776

“Obama will lose not because he is almost black, but because he is too liberal, too egotistical, too elistist, lacks experience, is a baby killer, has shady connections, and sat in the pew of a Church that preached Hate toward Whites and Hate toward America for 20 years.”

You are too kind to the Senator. “Too liberal”? In plain language he is a communist, with terrorist friends.


75 posted on 09/20/2008 9:54:03 AM PDT by devere
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To: AmericanMade1776
This was staged from the Obama camp, just trash....
76 posted on 09/20/2008 9:54:09 AM PDT by iloveluci (Once burned you learn, no more Demo rats!)
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To: IbJensen

Not to mention Ken Blackwell!


77 posted on 09/20/2008 9:54:40 AM PDT by GWMcClintock (Right after Lib Democrats, the most dangerous politicians are country club Republicans. T. Sowell)
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To: AmericanMade1776

I could name five or ten black people I could vote for for president with a smile on my face, off the top of my head; Barrack Oinkbama simply isn’t one of them.


78 posted on 09/20/2008 9:59:28 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: counterpunch
The goal is to intimidate America into voting for 0bama or face the consequences, ...

I will accept the possible short term consequences (rioting)over the certain long term consequences (a quantum leap deeper into proto-communism).

79 posted on 09/20/2008 10:01:02 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid ... even by congressional standards.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

You’re just bitter.

I bet you still cling to guns and religion.


80 posted on 09/20/2008 10:01:48 AM PDT by El Sordo
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To: AmericanMade1776

As long as this communist is being kept out of the white house, I don’t care about what the real intention of voters.

If the MSM wants to label us as racists, so be it! as long as he losees, I don’t care.

It’s not like whites have not given any chance to these black Rats politicians. Voters elected them in VA, MA as governors... The end result: dismal failure.


81 posted on 09/20/2008 10:02:26 AM PDT by maccaca (puma)
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To: counterpunch
The goal is to intimidate America into voting for 0bama or face the consequences

This sort of thing is the ultimate goal of the saul alinsky school of comunity organization - if you can't get what you want peacefully - then get it violently. Be assured - No Obammy = RIOTS...

Time to stock up on ammo...

82 posted on 09/20/2008 10:04:58 AM PDT by GunnyB (Once a Marine, Always a Marine)
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To: AmericanMade1776

No mention on how White Guilt, Sexism and Ageism have propelled Obama to where he already is to begin with.


83 posted on 09/20/2008 10:06:32 AM PDT by pollwatcher (Palin was put on this earth to do two things: kill caribou and kick butt. She's all out of caribou.")
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To: AmericanMade1776

Wow. If you go to MichaelWarns.com, on the signs in your picture, it mainly refers you to http://www.michaeldefeatssatan.com/ and that site is crackers.

I’m beginning to think it is a setup on Obamas part. I mean calling Obama and Oprah The antichrist ( 666 ) and devil respectively and claiming 33% of black women are Lilith etc.

Then it goes on to claim that “Women Took Over America” and stuff. That rant includes the following gem :

“When America gave women the right to vote. How? Because they out number men 40 to 1, women have the voting power in
numbers, the majority.”

So this is either an Obama setup or its more of Rev Jeremiah Wright’s followers in Leauge with Calypso Louis Farrakhan.

Unreal.


84 posted on 09/20/2008 10:07:01 AM PDT by festus (Politics makes for strange bedfellows)
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To: GWMcClintock
Not to mention Ken Blackwell!

But I racist /s gave money to the Blackwell campaign in he hope he would win Ohio.

85 posted on 09/20/2008 10:08:06 AM PDT by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Obama is trying the Charles Manson technique to win the presidency. HELTER SKELTER!

Well, Ayer’s wife, Bernadette Dorn has been quoted saying that she admired what the Manson family did.


86 posted on 09/20/2008 10:08:20 AM PDT by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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To: AmericanMade1776
Wow! Three nearly consecutive posts from three different sources about the same subject. The drum beat is impossible to miss.

Poll: White Democrats’ Racism Could Cost Obama White House
The Moderate Voice

Poll: Racial views steer some white Dems away from Obama
Yahoo!

Poll: Racial views steer some away from Obama
MSNBC

87 posted on 09/20/2008 10:08:37 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid ... even by congressional standards.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

I don’t care whether a candidate is black, white, yellow, mixed, man or woman. Just give me a candidate who is conservative and has the smarts and talent to talk to the American people about core values, conservative economics and energize them that America is great, not without some problems, but with the greatest, smartest, workforce in the world.


88 posted on 09/20/2008 10:09:14 AM PDT by CedarDave (Gloom and doom Democrats cheer for financial despair, losing wars and hurricanes. That's leadership!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I think that there are a lot of white people that are just getting tired of having the black cause pushed on us. The entertainment and news industries constantly pound on that theme. And then we see blacks get excused just because they are black, such as: william jefferson, jessey jackson, charles rangle, oj simpson, and many less known names, i can name three locals where I live.


89 posted on 09/20/2008 10:10:02 AM PDT by my right
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To: AmericanMade1776

This is about pushing more “anti-racism” programs.

Read quota endorsed racism programs.

It does not matter how much the voting or the net result of the election. Racebaiters are going to demand a whole slew of racism based programs.

This is jessie jackson shakedown politics.

this is the fraudulent story that created the foundation for creating a class of mortgages based on skin color rather than ability to pay.


90 posted on 09/20/2008 10:13:21 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: AmericanMade1776

I have misgivings about obama belonging to a racist organization for 20 years,

but I think the article wants to highlight white bigots,like the ones who went after Sec. Rice

I imagine that once these evil people are dealt with they will go after rev.wrights flock of bigots

one group of bigots at a time

I’ll just sit here and wait for these crusaders to get around to that particular evil

... crickets chirping ...


91 posted on 09/20/2008 10:13:31 AM PDT by daku (Obama has experience pouring out of those big ears of his.)
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To: AmericanMade1776
Cynthia McKinney is running for President with the Green Party.

And Cynthia McKinney is a TRUE American African American Black. She's not the product of some Kenyan randy who impregnates a young starry eyed white liberal teenager.

Truth be told, Barack Obama Senior could have been charged with rape. At least here in Georgia.
92 posted on 09/20/2008 10:13:37 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (Barack= Lightening; Hussein= Handsome; Obama= ZigZag, Crooked. Need I say more?)
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To: AmericanMade1776; darkwing104

I haven’t heard too much about Palin’s effect on Southern voters. Pro-life, NRA, conservative bodes well.

Of course there are some who would not vote for a woman regardless....my mother and my sister come to mind. I shake my head. We are not toothless, barefoot, ignorant rednecks.. Just an average family who are conservative Republicans..

Cynthia McKinney is a joke. (Not a newsflash, I know) I do not pay much attention to her, but I can only hope her metro Atlanta followers will mark her name on the ballot.

I have to admit, I haven’t seen much in the way of pro-Obama activity.


93 posted on 09/20/2008 10:25:44 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (Stand up, Chuck)
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To: Swampmarine

95% of African Americans are NOT voting against McCain. There are AT LEAST 20% Black Conservatives in the USofA who will be voting FOR McCain. And that may be a higher percentage if we include Moderate Black Democrats who will vote for McCain, too.

Don’t forget, MLK was a Republican. There are a lot more Black Republicans who don’t get into the limelight because they don’t want the hassle from Democrats. There are more Clarence Thomas’ out among the public than we know of, waiting to vote for conservative values over socialism. They saw what the Demos did to Justice Thomas and they don’t want similar treatment, so they just bide their time until they pull that curtian on the voting booth and for a few moments in time feel FREE of pressure from Blacks to conform.

True Black Men and Women are much like our own TrueBlackMan!

I opine that the landslide will show up in a few of the Blue States where the majority of voters are black and just waiting for their chance to be free to vote their own consciences.


94 posted on 09/20/2008 10:27:08 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (Barack= Lightening; Hussein= Handsome; Obama= ZigZag, Crooked. Need I say more?)
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To: AmericanMade1776

I’m voting against him precisely because he is black; by that I mean that every conscious effort and every planned move he has taken in his personal education, choices of acquaintenances, mentors, supporters and now even his campaign direction are all hinged upon the half-supported floor of a trapdoor of his own making - namely that he has gone about eliminating virtually any trace of his white heritage, as though he were a leper madly washing himself with rough brushes in the healing waters of Lourdes.


95 posted on 09/20/2008 10:31:30 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: AmericanMade1776
I took this poll. It was run by Knowledge Networks out of California, an online polling company.

The way the statements you were to respond to were worded, and the fact that the options for responding to the statements were limited to something like "Very strongly agree," "Somewhat agree," "Neutral" (or "No opinion"--I wish I could remember the exact wording), "Somewhat disagree," and "Very strongly disagree," no doubt helped AP/Yahoo come up with the results they desired.

NOWHERE in this extensive poll was there a place to indicate something like "It depends on the person" or "What the heck kind of a question/statement is that?" (Though I did type in a comment along those lines at the end of the poll.)

What do you do when you think that, yes, some blacks, just like some other people, are largely responsible for their own troubles? If you realize you're being polled by AP/Yahoo and they'll use any "negative" result to bolster their biases, you answer as neutrally as the canned answers you're supplied with will allow.

If you're some Democrats, apparently, you in all innocence say you "Somewhat agree" that blacks (like others) are often largely responsible for their own problems. It's common sense and, for most people, not in the least bit racist in intent.

By the way, the poll didn't question blacks about their attitudes toward whites, Hispanics, or Asians. I'm waiting for that poll.

96 posted on 09/20/2008 10:39:08 AM PDT by Cinnamontea
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To: CedarDave
CedarDave wrote: I don’t care whether a candidate is black, white, yellow, mixed, man or woman. Just give me a candidate who is conservative and has the smarts and talent to talk to the American people about core values, conservative economics and energize them that America is great, not without some problems, but with the greatest, smartest, workforce in the world.

I want someone who I can trust , trust with America's future, Trust with America's troops, Trust with caring for the American people first, and that is just not anywhere near What Barack Hussein Obama represents to me. I would not vote for Obama.. simply because I do not want a President Hussein who was raised in a Moslem school in Thailand in the Oval office, and that does not even touch where Obama stands on the other issues. If that is racist to Obama .. SO BE IT! I DON'T CARE!

Obama and his ilk are racist, sexist, and anti American, they do not like Me, they do not like Sarah Palin, they do not like John McCain, they do not Like America, they do not like to wear the American flag, they do not like my moderate conservative values, they don't care for the unborn, or the covenants of marriage between a man and a woman.

97 posted on 09/20/2008 10:45:33 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ( Our Mamma beats your Obama)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Well said.


98 posted on 09/20/2008 10:51:48 AM PDT by CedarDave (Gloom and doom Democrats cheer for financial despair, losing wars and hurricanes. That's leadership!)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Lotta folks won’t vote for a commie with no birth cert. also.


99 posted on 09/20/2008 10:57:46 AM PDT by Waco ( G00d bye 0'bomber)
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To: AmericanMade1776

It is true that Obama will lose because of his extreme liberal views, but the MSM and Press will interpret that as being racist. This election will go a long way towards creating an even bigger racial divide.


100 posted on 09/20/2008 11:00:57 AM PDT by pctech
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