Posted on 09/20/2008 8:40:39 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
Yes, immigration is a complicated and combustible issue for political candidates and the economic meltdown is everyones top priority. No, that is no excuse for ignoring immigration or lying about it to voters, as John McCain and Barack Obama have been doing.
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So, now the Sacred NY Times Editors admit that Barry was flagrantly lying? I’m not quite clear, however, why they think that McCain was lying.
Explain that a little more clearly, Pinch. I didn’t quite get it.
We can save $350,000,000 by sending the illegals back to Mexico. Looks like we’re going to need it to pay off the bill the democRATS and Fannie/Freddie/AIG have handed us.
They are both in favor of amnesty. It matters little who gets in the WH on the issue of immigration. Obama will be easier to fight on the issue.
The McCainiac will have his mandate, hence he gets his amnesty, all the while the conservatives that voted him in office get pegged as racist for not wanting it.
Hehe, nice sticker. BTTT.
NY Times editorial = waste of Jim Robinson’s electrons
Unreal. When did McCain lie about immigration? Telling the absolute truth, that we’re not evicting the however many mill already here, almost cost him this nomination.
It’s typical NYT, if McCain lies, call him on it; if Obama lies, run a piece on how both candidates have lied on this issue.
I have been asking GWB to BUILD DUNCAN HUNTER’S DOUBLE BORDER FENCE, and to exonerate Ramos and Compean for years on comments@whitehouse.gov with no success.
McCain lied by running an advertisement in Spanish accusing Obama of derailing his "comprehensive" and "bipartisan" immigration "reform" bill last year.
McCain isn't just for granting amnesty; he's a co-sponsor of the Dream Acts that would grant in-state college tuition rates and possibly access to government financial aid to illegal aliens, ahead of U.S. citizens from different states and ahead of legally present international students.
If he doesn't even want to enforce the laws, as a Senator, how will he enforce the laws as President?
McC's Hispanic Outreach man, Juan Hernandez----is a dual US/Mexico citizen--who headed the Mexican government's "Ministry of Mexicans Living in the US."
Hernandez told Cong Tancredo that "The Ministry" exists to increase the flow of Mexicans to the US TO SERVE Mexicos needs including: $50 billion annual remittances to Mexico (30% of Mexico's GDP); employment for Mexico's exploding population, to alleviate Mexican social instability, and to provide job training for Mexicans THAT THEY WILL BRING BACK TO MEXICO.
Hernandez told Cong Tancredo: By Mexico populating the US with millions of Hispanics tied economically, politically and linguistically to Mexico, our government is able to exert enormous influence and pressure on US policy and its dealings with Mexico.
Get ready for a massive transfer of US wealth to greedy federales in the Mexican hellhole. Third World federales are salivating at the thought.
The sap-happy whining about "hopeless people" looking for a "better life" here is nonsense. Hernandez and other Third World gov't agents have infiltrated the US political system for ONE REASON: to effect a massive transfer of US wealth.
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History shows the Huns, the Vandals, and the Barbarians used force to takeover a country to loot its wealth. Third World parasites like Hernandez use the US political system to divide and conqueur. They seek to conquer without firing a shot.
We can look forward to lettuce pickers stripping down to camouflage and shoulder holsters, roaming our streets, shooting to kill anyone who dares to speakout.
The invaders violated our borders for a "better life" (sarc) and while flipping hamburgers, they cleaned out the US Treasury, looted SS, UI, Disability, EITC, Workmen's Comp, welfare; they shut down numerous hospitals, sued everything in sight, and made big bucks selling drugs to American youth.
Now they'll retire in luxury at beachfront condos with multiple US govt checks rolling in.
More reasons to declare these agents of corrupt Third World governments invading our country "enemies of state."
I dont know any one who is against immigration... but as the politcians and the liberal media wont mention is that people are fed up with “Illegal” immigrants...
What makes you think that Obama would be easier to fight on the issue?
I agree they are both on the wrong side of the immigration issue- but at least McCain said he “got the message” that people want a secure border before we are willing to support any type of reform of immigration. I have not seen evidence that Obama “gets” any message sent to him about anything.
That was before he tried to pander to Hispanics (in Spanish, meaning that he assumed that they didn't speak English) with his televised advertisements.
McCain "got the message"...for now. But, after the elections, he will claim otherwise.
btt
Besides the fact that McCain is obsessed with the issue, views the defeat of McCain-Kennedy as a personal insult, and holds grudges, McCain will pressure the RINOs in Congress to support it using his victory to demonstrate that being for amnesty is not a political liability. The Dems will provide overwhelming support because this will be viewed as a bipartisan effort thus being able to hold the Reps responsibile for the consequences, which will result in destroying the nation and in the process making the Dems the permanent majority party.
but at least McCain said he got the message that people want a secure border before we are willing to support any type of reform of immigration..
Only gulible fools believe that McCain got the message. Check his official website under the section address the undocumented and you will see he still clearly supports an amnesty for the 12 to 20 million illegal aliens already here. McCain can't even call them illegal.
Both McCain and Obama signed the 2006 Secure Fence Act and claim they will secure the border. Obama is clearly in favor of amnesty without trying to fool the public. I predict the during the debates, Obama will try to pin McCain down on amnesty forcing him to admit that he favors legalizing the status of the 12 to 20 million illegals, which will then infuriate conservatives and some of the independents and moderates who don't understand what McCain's current position is.
This is precisely why "consevatives" who are supporting MacQueeg are little more than useful idiots...albeit "patriotic" useful ididot...but useful idiots, nonetheless.
Q: Do you know how to tell McQueeg is lying?
A: His lips are moving. Calling the old psychotic a conservative will not make him so.
And if you're naive enough not to sharply discount whatever Mac says, please call me. I have a bridge to sell...real cheap.
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