Posted on 09/19/2008 5:53:39 AM PDT by yoe
For the second consecutive day, neither the McCain-Palin campaign nor the Republican National Committee would respond to questions from CNSNews.com about an ambiguous radio ad that says McCain will push for more federal spending on stem-cell research if he is elected president.
The ad, however, does not specify whether that research will be limited to stem-cell research that does not involve the killing of human embryos.
In the Senate, McCain has twice voted to use tax dollars to fund research using stem cells taken from human embryos that are killed in the process.
(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...
The MSM is pushing for antiquated answers hoping to trap McCain. He would be wise to defer to a doctor in this field of research.
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This is not a 2008 issue, mainly because ESCR has proven to be a fraud, so why are they even running such an ad?
CNS is hardly “Main Stream Media.”
“The ‘suggested’ need for Embryonic Stem Cell research is most likely Null & Void with the discovery that (human skin cells) create cells that are nearly identical to human embryonic stem cells.”
You would think that, but don’t count on it.
There is something inherently creepy and perverse about liberals and the constant desire for the blood of the innocent.
Actually, I think it’s very primitive.
They say the ad is ambigious. I’ve heard the ad and at first it was What!? Then I listened closer the next time and realized they said stem cell research, not embryonic stem cell. There is a huge difference especially as more the more research that is done, the less there is needed to use embryonic stem cells.
Don't forget that to liberals, the killing of unborn children is the ultimate sacrament. Liberals want everyone else to believe that it is perfectly OK to murder unborn children. Embryonic stem cell research was just one vehicle they would use to try and convince more people that murdering unborn children is perfectly OK.
I like how Michael J. Fox and other people who suffer from diseases that could supposedly be treated by Embryonic Stem Cell Research have been left to suffer by the Democrat party because murdering unborn children is no longer required to harvest stem cells.
Add getting the government controlling your health needs...
This isn't just about science...it's about greed.
I would think its trying to pick up those who are ignorant of the other results of cell research that has proven as effective as embryonic but don’t know so its purposely ambiguous to get those votes.
At least, thats what im thinking.
Am I mistaken, or did I read somewhere that embryonic stem cells are present in cord blood and can be taken without harming anything?
What is CNS? Haven’t heard of ‘em. Don’t know what the acronym is and they don’t break it down on their website??
“Cybercast News Service”
Nothing wrong with them. They’re just not quite up to “Main Stream Media” level.
That’s all I’m sayin’...
Bill Frist could be helpful if he's available and wants to actively support McCain.
“What is CNS?”
They’re a good organization, but have this story wrong. Check out McCain’s website.
“As president, John McCain will strongly support funding for promising research programs, including amniotic fluid and adult stem cell research and other types of scientific study that do not involve the use of human embryos.”
excerpt http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/95b18512-d5b6-456e-90a2-12028d71df58.htm
McCain reversed his position, happily.
McCain won’t move forward on embryonic stem cell research. Nothing has been proven there anyway.
The cures are from adult stem cells.
My father had Parkinsons. It’s a horrible disease. I genuinely sympathize with Fox, but he’s a dupe for the cause.
Back in the day I believe the procedure was referred to as “Fetal Implant Surgery”. They had to change the name.
It is practical from a secular stand point to reverse positions on this, as well. There has been zero return on the embryonic stem cell investment.
Let the minions that think this is such a swell idea do it with their own money!
Why do they need mine to “harvest” the unborn??
I have a feeling if they even got the question, their response was, Who is CNSNews?
Is this ad even valid now? Embryonic stem cell research is already off the table and Adult stem cells are the main research line now.
Thanks, it seems McCain is moving even more pro-life on this issue.. Which begs the question again, who is CNSNews?
Never mind on my question on who is CNSNews; I just looked at their writers, and other than Patty OBuchanan, they have a good roster. I still stand by the statement this question is out of date.
I usually can't stand it when people use their own personal tragedies to advance their political concerns. I find it agreeable when they use such tragedies to advance an honorable cause, but what Fox and the others were doing was attempting to justify the genocide of the unborn. If anything, that made me far less sympathetic to his plight.
Yes, McCain is good on pro-life issues, with the one exception that in the past he voted for fetal stem-cell research.
Not everyone understood that issue, and I’ll give him some credit for meaning well while doing badly.
Now the situation has completely changed. He has to keep the pro-lifers on his side or lose the election. But the last thing in the world he needs is to get tangled up in what is now a peripheral issue that is a lose-lose—offend one group of voters or offend the other.
In other words, the leftist press has suckered this pro-life organization to raise an issue best left alone at this point. McCain is quite right to ignore the issue that CNN has raised, hoping to make trouble for him.
Bush 2 was reliably pro-life—it was one of his strongest points, and it incidentally garnered him a ton of votes. Bush 1 was NOT reliably pro-life, and his wife Barbara was pro-choice. But he promised to be pro-life as president, and he kept that promise. I believe McCain will have enough sense to back away from support for fetal stem cell research, and I think Sarah Palin will help encourage him to do that. He may have learned better, and even if he hasn’t, it would be a HUGE political loser for him now.
Let sleeping dogs lie, since there is very little chance in this case that they will cause any future trouble.
A married couple (alumni of the UW) donated I believe $200 million for the construction of a research lab for further embryonic stem cell research. Of course this was accepted with great fanfare, even though it fell at least $150 million short of the total construction cost of the lab. Initially, our dimwit governor, playing to the significant far-left sect of Madison, was outspoken about the gift's importance regarding the future of embryonic stem cell research.
As Pro_Life groups and others began to register their disdain and illustrate the many cures that have been realized by using adult stem cells, umbilical cord stem cells and skin stem cells, the governor never again mentioned that the research lab, which will be paid for, at least in part by my tax dollars, will be used to conduct embryonic stem research, although of course it will.
He now simply states that the newly constructed laboratory will be used to conduct stem cell research.
I pray that Sen. McCain will honor his commitment to ban embryonic stem research and focus research funds into tried and true stem cell research that not only works, but doesn't destroy a human life.
EODGUY
I don’t know that there is all that much politics at play here. I can see how you might believe that he was using his own personal plight ~ and his celebrity ~ to forward his ideology, but I don’t necessarily think it’s all that simple. I believe that Fox’s burning passion for the cause has more to do with his own desire to help himself. I don’t know that he can connect the genocide of the unborn in his own mind. Not meaning to make an excuse for him. I simply don’t give him credit for thinking that deeply.
My own father and, consequently, our entire family were duped into a procedure called a palliodotomy to make his life livable with Parkinsons. Granted, this was an experimental procedure at the time, but my father was at a stage where he would have grabbed at anything to make his life bearable. We reviewed videotapes of patients who went through the operation and the immediate results were stunning ~ at least for the folks that we saw the videos of, not so for my dad.
Later I found out that patients who had the surgery reverted back to their old stage in 3 to 6 months. This very similar to the success of individuals who had what a referred to as “fetal implant surgery”. Curiously, the results were not really highlighted for us at the outset. And to be honest, we probably would have believed whatever they wanted us to believe. We were that desperate.
I know that my father was too old for fetal implant, but I have no doubt that he could have possibly been seduced into rationalizing what the doctors would have you believe; the abortions have already been performed. No good will come of not having the surgery. They ice the whole thing up by telling you that you’ll be helping other patients in the future, advancing an honorable cause, and that makes everyone feel special and nice!
Christopher Reeves was in the same situation. I don’t really think that he was an advocate for the cause as much as he was an advocate for his own interests.
I still take pity on both men. In the end, all that any of us can do is decide how each of us can live our lives despite the circumstance that we are dealt. Obviously, I can know for certain, but it would seem to me that both men lack any kind of spiritual faith. Reeves struck me as being a rousing humanist. I’ve never heard or read about Fox addressing the issue of faith. Possibly there is the greatest pity of all.
There, but for the grace of God, go I.
Possibly
“There has been zero return on the embryonic stem cell investment.”
Which leads me to believe this is really about abortion for many antilife people.
I think embryonic research should be illegal, but it’s not, but the Frankenscientists want to use OUR tax dollars.
“Which leads me to believe this is really about abortion for many antilife people.”
Make no mistake, this is what it is about.
For years, while being a Christian, I did not necessarily believe or understand providence, the “invisible hand” and the the impact of the bogeyman (Satan). In fact, I pretty much tried to stay out of such discussions.
It’s apparent to me now, that the creation of embryos, only to be destroyed serves one purpose,...and it is the antithesis of God’s.
I’ll leave you to fill in the blank.
“It’s apparent to me now, that the creation of embryos, only to be destroyed serves one purpose,...and it is the antithesis of God’s.”
Yes, that’s it. They are destroying what God has created.
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