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Biden and Developmental Disabilities (Joe Blow a Gaffe-Riot)
NRO's The Corner ^ | 9/9/2008 | Yuval Levin

Posted on 09/09/2008 1:50:45 PM PDT by mojito

Joe Biden’s comment today, suggesting some contradiction between support for those born with developmental disabilities and opposition to embryo-destructive research is among his more appalling and insulting gaffes to date. As CBS reports it, Biden said:

"I hear all this talk about how the Republicans are going to work in dealing with parents who have both the joy, because there's joy to it as well, the joy and the difficulty of raising a child who has a developmental disability, who were born with a birth defect. Well guess what folks? If you care about it, why don't you support stem cell research?"

When asked whether this was an implicit reference to Sarah Palin’s son with Down syndrome, Biden’s press secretary put out this statement:

This is a clash of policies not a clash of personalities. We've heard not a dime's worth of difference between the McCain-Palin ticket and the Bush Administration on medical breakthroughs that millions of parents and doctors believe could save lives and transform the quality of life for countless Americans.

Where to begin? First of all, the example Palin sets in how she and her family have welcomed her Down syndrome child points in precisely the opposite direction from Biden’s call for the destruction of human embryos for research: it points toward a society that treats every human life as deserving of protection and regard. It is the very reason to oppose embryo-destructive research.

Second, while stem cell work, including embryonic stem cell research, can help in the study of human development in general, as a matter of basic science, the notion that it offers a path to the treatment of Down syndrome or other developmental disabilities is just not sound. The basic science (which at its edges could have some impact on the study of developmental disabilities) can be and has been pursued under the Bush administration’s stem cell policy, and even the most adamant advocates of the policies Biden has supported have not listed a cure for Down syndrome among the miracles they promise. Biden’s remark is indicative of the lack of seriousness with which some Democratic politicians treat the relevant science here: they don’t themselves think this is one avenue of cell biology that could offer important help in one range of potential biomedical advances but rather they see it as a kind of magic bullet and universal cure-all that allows them to be for curing all that ails the human race and accusing their opponents of being against it all, meanwhile paying no heed to ethical concerns.

Third, to the statement from Biden’s press secretary. I certainly think it would be nice if there were no daylight between McCain and Bush on stem cells, but in fact John McCain voted to overturn the president’s stem cell policy, just like Joe Biden did. Unlike Biden or Obama, though, he has been very eager to encourage new advances in cell biology that could well make the entire debate moot, by making available the benefits derived from embryonic stem cells but without the need for embryos, and so with no ethical concerns. McCain is well informed about these advances, and has suggested they could change the balance of moral goods involved in the stem cell debate. He wants a solution that could advance medical research without undermining our society’s commitment to human equality or dignity. Joe Biden seems just to want a political weapon, and seems not to know much about the subject.

The Obama campaign is now backing away from Biden’s insulting remark, and especially arguing that it has nothing to do with Sarah Palin (despite the obvious contextual evidence to the contrary). The Democrats have been hoping for a gaffe from a VP candidate, but this isn’t the gaffe, or the candidate, they had in mind.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; biden; eugenics; gaffemachine; geneticcannibalism; junkscience; obamabiden; palin; stemcells
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What a fine choice young Barry made!
1 posted on 09/09/2008 1:50:46 PM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito

These idiot liberals don’t even realize that stem cells from aborted babies are useless anyway. He’s just promoting eugenics. Liberals are all nazis.


2 posted on 09/09/2008 1:52:39 PM PDT by mainestategop (MAINE: The way communism should be)
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To: mojito

It is interesting that Biden would launch such a attack since John McCain supports Embryonic Stem Cell Research just as Obama and Biden.


3 posted on 09/09/2008 1:54:26 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: mojito
Obama's Campaign


4 posted on 09/09/2008 1:57:20 PM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: trumandogz

Obama and Biden are running against Palin.


5 posted on 09/09/2008 1:57:52 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: mojito
"I hear all this talk about how the Republicans are going to work in dealing with parents who have both the joy, because there's joy to it as well, the joy and the difficulty of raising a child who has a developmental disability, who were born with a birth defect. Well guess what folks? If you care about it, why don't you support stem cell research?"

Is he really that stupid? Or does he realize that his audience is really that stupid? Good grief!

6 posted on 09/09/2008 1:59:19 PM PDT by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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To: mojito

...another bad choice for Barry? It tells you he knows about as much about his government as he does about American history and geography, which is precious little. Some other Socialists must have pushed this left of Lenin Senator on Obama or Obama agrees with how Biden has done things. Let Google be you friend......Biden’s history is yours to research.


7 posted on 09/09/2008 1:59:35 PM PDT by yoe ( Socialism/Marxism with Obama/Michelle - another twofer!)
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If you care about it, why don't you support stem cell research?"

This is about as child friendly as the March of Dimes' effort to prevent birth defects by aborting babies that HAVE birth defects.

8 posted on 09/09/2008 1:59:42 PM PDT by weegee (Better to support a pitbull in lipstick than to be in a party that is putting lipstick on a pig.)
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To: nickcarraway
Obama and Biden are running against Palin.

Yes, it's a truly idiotic strategy.
9 posted on 09/09/2008 1:59:52 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: nickcarraway
Yes, they are attempting to drive a wedge between McCain and Palin.

Palin is Opposed to Embryonic Stem Cell Research.

McCain Supports Embryonic Stem Cell Research.

10 posted on 09/09/2008 2:00:28 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: mojito; P-Marlowe; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock

Obama Ticket Regrets the Existence of Baby Trig Palin

Biden Makes Ignorant Claim that Stem Cell Research will Cure Genetic Problem


11 posted on 09/09/2008 2:02:22 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain Opposing -> ZerObama: zero executive, military, or international experience)
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To: mojito
Joe Biden seems just to want a political weapon, and seems not to know much about the subject.

This could really apply to almost any subject...

12 posted on 09/09/2008 2:11:16 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (UN the horse you rode in on.)
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To: mojito

13 posted on 09/09/2008 2:11:53 PM PDT by jaz.357 (the best in a war, very dangerous otherwise.)
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To: al_c
Uh...GWB was the first President to support and fund stem cell research. Stem cells and embryonic stem cells are two different arguments. Most of us support the only truly successful stem cell research, that is, non-embryonic stem cell research such as umbilical cord cells or auto-donor cells. Embryonic stem cell research has not proven much of a success in private or foreign labs.
14 posted on 09/09/2008 2:33:27 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: mojito

Just curious... does anybody even listen to Biden???


15 posted on 09/09/2008 2:33:30 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: mojito

Actually, Joe needs a lot of prayers and a kick in the pants.


16 posted on 09/09/2008 2:46:39 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: mainestategop

Ethical scientists prove case over embryo research

http://www.totalcatholic.com/tc/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=269:ethical-scientists-prove-case-over-embryo-research&catid=14:uk-and-ireland&Itemid=34

Embryonic stem cell research is losing ground as ethically sound developments are rapidly developing pace, it has emerged.

...still got a hankerin’ to kill someone, Joey?


17 posted on 09/09/2008 4:09:31 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (Conservatives are to McCain what Charlie Brown is to Lucy.)
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To: mojito; cpforlife.org; narses; Coleus; Aquinasfan
If Biden is leading a public campaign carnival-barking for embryonic stem cell research his bishop should ex-communicate him immediately.
18 posted on 09/09/2008 4:17:13 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Continental Soldier
I hear real good!!!..PhotobucketPhotobucket

So do I!!!...

19 posted on 09/09/2008 5:42:52 PM PDT by GitmoSailor (AZ Cold War Veteran====McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: SERKIT

I wasn’t arguing against it (non-embryonic anyway). I was commenting on the buffoon’s tasteless and uneducated comment.


20 posted on 09/09/2008 6:40:42 PM PDT by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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