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Nuclear is best option for power, advocate says
Michigan Live ^ | Sept. 5, 2008 | Paul Wyche

Posted on 09/06/2008 6:50:59 PM PDT by Clairity

Moore, founder of environment watchdog Greenpeace, said since the '70s, activists have overreacted to the threats posed by nuclear energy, while ignoring its benefits "as if all things nuclear were evil."

Even the infamous Three Mile Island incident near Middletown, Penn., is no reason for irrational fears, said Moore, whose group is a grassroots movement that aims to unite business, environmental, academic, consumer and labor communities to support nuclear energy.

As a result, there are some 104 nuclear plants safely operating today in the United States, Moore said.

"Nuclear energy is not a nuclear weapon," he said.

And unlike fossil fuels, producing electricity with nuclear technology doesn't release greenhouse gases that pose health risks to people, Moore said.

Other alternatives, such as wind turbines and solar panels, are "unreliable" because he said they depend on the elements and can only operate part of the time.

(Excerpt) Read more at mlive.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News
KEYWORDS: energy; energyindependence; greenpeace; moore; nuclear; nuclearpower
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1 posted on 09/06/2008 6:50:59 PM PDT by Clairity
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To: Clairity

This is an article about what Moore said, and here is an article written by Moore himself:

My View: Nuclear energy can boost jobs, economy

http://www.mlive.com/saginawnews/opinion/index.ssf/2008/09/my_view_nuclear_energy_can_boo.html

“The latest round of plant closings and production cutbacks by General Motors Corp. and Ford Motor Co. underscores the need for Michigan to diversify its economy.

Nuclear energy, which already generates more than a quarter of the state’s electricity safely and cost-effectively, also boosts local economies and produces emission-free power.

Nationwide, the country’s 104 reactors provide 20 percent of the nation’s power.

Most of these reactors will continue to operate well into this century. With more than 30 new reactors under consideration, the U.S. nuclear energy industry will provide tens of thousands of jobs to Americans — all types of engineering and plant operation positions, for example — in addition to all manner of highly compensated work for tradespeople.

Nuclear energy also offers a way to spur growth without sacrificing our environment. Unlike coal and natural gas, nuclear energy does not produce greenhouse gas emissions. In fact, every year Michigan’s four operating nuclear facilities prevent 27.5 million metric tons of carbon dioxide from being emitted into the atmosphere.”


2 posted on 09/06/2008 6:53:55 PM PDT by Clairity (To learn about upcoming events go to http://www.johnmccain.com and enter your zip code)
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To: Clairity

lemme see...

1. No buying from kooky Arabs
2. No CO2 AT ALL
3. Technology is old, proven, and well-developed
4. Fuel is in USA, Africa, Canda, Oz, and other reliable allies
5. Cheap
6. Pebble Bed reactors currently under construction in China, etc....


3 posted on 09/06/2008 7:03:23 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

Interestingly enough, the founder of Greenpeace is promoting it.

France gets80% of their electricity from nuclear, they recycle nuclear fuel ( we should do that also, solves the problem of nuclear waste storage), so there is no reason we couldn’t do the same.


4 posted on 09/06/2008 7:06:08 PM PDT by Clairity (To learn about upcoming events go to http://www.johnmccain.com and enter your zip code)
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To: Clairity

I am not a big fan of Greenpeace, but this man has obviously kept his brain in the “on” position. Some time ago, I was an student computer network administrator at a small, well-regarded liberal arts college in New England. When I found that the enviro activists there weren’t just against nukes, but even against HYDRO, I knew these people had no interest in the real world.


5 posted on 09/06/2008 7:08:09 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("[Gov. Sarah Palin] is Phyllis Schlafly, only younger." -- Gloria Steinem)
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To: Clairity
As much as I support nuclear power, I am concerned over the economic impact of an unconsidered rush to build nuclear power plants.

The reason for this has to do with the tremendous amount of capital each plant will require coupled with the significant amount of time that capital will be tied up until a plant starts to produce power.

A plant could easily cost over $7 billion and take almost 10 years to build. Those capital needs will compete in the markets (either the debt or the equity markets depending on how each project in financed), and increase the cost of capital for other business activities. For a few plants, this will not be a problem. If we want to push for 100 plants, we could be looking at the better part of a TRILLION dollars, money will have to come into the US capital markets from elsewhere.

There are only so many plants that can be under construction at a given time due to manpower and industrial capacity constraints. If we want to go past those limits, we will greatly increase the cost of each plant we build.

Do we want to have to invite the Saudi or Russian sovereign wealth funds to (once again) lend us money for critically important US projects?

We are far better off setting the policy and incentive environment for more US energy and letting the market decide how to fill the need.

Let us start with drill here, drill now while unleashing as many other resources and innovations as possible, including nuclear. (I have high hopes for pebble bed technologies, but if we are in a rush, utilities will be especially reluctant to take any extra risks.)

6 posted on 09/06/2008 7:08:10 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Clairity

The reason we aren’t a high percentage nuclear now is due to idiots like this guy. Too little, too late.


7 posted on 09/06/2008 7:08:46 PM PDT by 1L
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To: gaijin
" Pebble Bed reactors "
I remember someone on FR showing the benefits of the Pebble Bed reactors a few years ago... but, forgotten about it... what makes a Pebble Bed Reactor more safe than other nuclear energy designs ?
8 posted on 09/06/2008 7:16:48 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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I think eventually the US will be able to convert to Nuclear power, hopefully sooner rather than later.
Nuclear power for electricity to heat and light our homes and eventually charge our cars. I do believe that until we make the conversion to nuclear energy, natural gas will be the bridge.


9 posted on 09/06/2008 7:17:01 PM PDT by aklurker (Democrats vs Republicans= Style over substance. Palin is substance with style)
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To: theBuckwheat
I am concerned over the economic impact of an unconsidered rush to build nuclear power plants.

Where is there evidence of an unconsidered rush?

10 posted on 09/06/2008 7:18:42 PM PDT by delacoert
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To: 1L
Liberals who have band the exploration and drilling for oil, stop the construction of nuclear and coal powered power plants for the past 30 years have made the cost of energy so high in this country that we have had a down turn in the economy. They want to talk about the “same old policies” hell, its their polices that have us in this down turn. This country was built on cheap energy.
11 posted on 09/06/2008 7:22:27 PM PDT by kempo
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To: Clairity

thanks to jane fonda and 3 mile island,

we don’t have much nuclear.


12 posted on 09/06/2008 7:23:34 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

Pebble bed reactors:

Instead of having comparitively large rods, PBR’s have like a half million “pebbles” —tennis ball-sized pebbles are made of a kind of graphite. Inside is U235 and a coating of ceramic.

The cooling is provided by an inert or semi-inert gas such as nitrogen or carbon dioxide.

The passive, simple, and reliable safety system removes the need for redundant, active safety systems.

Because the reactor is designed to handle high temperatures, it can cool by natural circulation and still remain intact in accident scenarios. Also, the gases do not dissolve contaminants or absorb neutrons as water does, so the core has less in the way of radioactive fluids.

The South Africans and Chinese are really into PBR’s.


13 posted on 09/06/2008 7:25:38 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: theBuckwheat
A plant could easily cost over $7 billion and take almost 10 years to build.

The last generation of nukes were each handmade to different specifications, like so many ships in bottles. Today we have standardized designs that make construction inherently faster and cheaper.

The other side of the equation is to clear away the artificial legal barriers. This must be McCain's highest priority after the election.

14 posted on 09/06/2008 7:28:22 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: gaijin

Would it be quicker to build smaller ones ( but more of them ) than to build large ones that take longer to build ?


15 posted on 09/06/2008 7:31:18 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Clairity

Japan: most volcanically active and earthquake-prone country in the world, and the only one to be attacked with nukes.

Yet Japan has a very aggressive nuclear power program. Why?

Cuz they’re not COMPLETELY NUTS.


16 posted on 09/06/2008 7:31:59 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Clairity

I still think whale oil is a good solution.


17 posted on 09/06/2008 7:32:33 PM PDT by yazoo
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To: BlazingArizona

Agreed, the capital markets have a way of settling the competition for capital. The good ideas get the funding. Nuclear power will lead to a lot of uses for electricity that are currently on hold because the infrastructure is not there.

Some of the things are water desalinization
Charge at home commute vehicles
electric heating, electric water heaters
electric rail transport for goods and people

There is enough capital out there to fund the development of anything that can provide these benefits. The only real reason to oppose nuclear power is that you are afraid we cannot handle the growth. Lots of environmentalists fall into this category. Others simply want a crisis and an energy crisis is better than the global warming psudo crisis.

Yes we should drill, the increased oil will become available far sooner than large quantities of cheap electric power. But starting both now makes a lot of sense. Listen to Sarah.


18 posted on 09/06/2008 7:36:15 PM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (California engineer and teacher)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

PBR’s are naturally smaller, and do not have the unsightly cooling towers. Currently cuz of nutty enviros, licensing a build site requires TEN YEARS.

TEN YEARS.

Quickest way would be to ask US Indian Tribes to ask the Great Spirit if it’d be OK to locate on the nearest reservation, and then pay them for their trouble.

And then cut down the wait time to...a year, or something...

That’s just my opinion, though.

I seriously think that when car battery tech improves, the power infrastructure of even states that are not behind the 8-ball like California will suddenly find themselves in brown-outs, etc.

We need this tech N-O-W.


19 posted on 09/06/2008 7:36:22 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

7. Pisses off Liberals and Tree-huggers.

That’s ALWAYS a bonus !!!


20 posted on 09/06/2008 7:38:00 PM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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