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Factchecking Palin (Who's checking the fact checkers?)
CBS News ^ | 09/04/2008 | Hilzoy

Posted on 09/04/2008 9:21:07 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen

I thought Palin's speech was quite good: well-written, well delivered. And, as I said earlier, I think she's a genuinely engaging person, and comes across very well. There were just a couple of problems. One, which I have seen people notice, but which I suspect won't be a big deal for a lot of voters, is that it had very little substance. The other, which the commenters I saw on TV for some reason neglected to mention, was that she told a lot of lies. A few that stood out for me, or that I spotted in my quick run-through of some blogs:

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: 2008electionbias; collusion; dncbrownshirts; dnctalkingpoints; dnctalkinpoints; fakebutaccurate; howtostealanelection; lyingliars; mccainpalin; palin; palinnomination; palinspeech; personaldestruction; propagandawingofdnc; ratherbiased; seebsnews; smearcampaign; viacommies
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A Liberal friend sent this to me. I do not have a lot of time to investigate them all. I was hoping for some ammo to fire back.
1 posted on 09/04/2008 9:21:07 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen
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To: Kid Shelleen

i guess it would have been kind of hard to fact check obama or bidens speeches considering they said things like “we are going to cut taxes for 95% of americans, we are going to make a college education affordabl....blah, blah, blah”

actually, come to think of it. It wouldn’t be too hard to fact check since the speech was a week ago. I don’t recall any such fact check. Katie Couric was quick to tell her audience that there would be some fact checking done on the Palin speech.


2 posted on 09/04/2008 9:24:31 AM PDT by sappy
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To: Kid Shelleen

SeeBS News complaining about someone telling lies?

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SERIOUSLY??

In an ELECTION year?

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhahaahahahahaaaaaaaaa!!!!


3 posted on 09/04/2008 9:26:31 AM PDT by weegee ("We now know far more about Sarah Palin in just 4days than we've learned about B.Obama in 17 months")
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To: Kid Shelleen

Ambassador John Bolton joins Lars at the RNC (talks about Palin)
Tuesday, Sep 02, 2008

http://www.larslarson.com/pg/jsp/charts/streamingAudioMaster.jsp?dispid=362&size=10&headerDe

John Bolton knows Palin. He has every confidence in her.

Bolton said [paraphrasing]...they talked about missle defense, etc. and she was very knowledgeable and she is a ‘quick study’. He was very impressed.


4 posted on 09/04/2008 9:26:49 AM PDT by AuntB ( "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: Kid Shelleen

“Sarah Palin might have changed her mind on this one recently. However, a comment here notes that Palin actually slashed funding for schools for special needs kids by 62%. Budgets: FY 2007 (pre-Palin), 2008, 2009 (all pdfs).”

If I’m reading the PDFs correctly, the schools still got more money than the year before. This sounds like another liberal misconception that cutting an INCREASE is cutting funding.


5 posted on 09/04/2008 9:27:06 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Kid Shelleen
(pro-obama)
6 posted on 09/04/2008 9:27:28 AM PDT by yoe ( Socialism/Marxism with Obama/Michelle - another twofer!)
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To: Kid Shelleen

/bkmark


7 posted on 09/04/2008 9:27:47 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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"Well, it all depends whose taxes go up, doesn't it? If Heather and her husband make less than $250,000, their taxes will not go up. Most Americans will pay less in taxes under Obama's plan than under McCain's. So they might well be better off." Several sites have similar info ...


8 posted on 09/04/2008 9:29:55 AM PDT by Daffynition ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that's not why the ship is built." ~Sarah Palin)
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To: Kid Shelleen
A few that stood out for me, or that I spotted in my quick run-through of some blogs:

DUmmyland & KOSworld !

9 posted on 09/04/2008 9:30:13 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Slapshot68

Are you saying that some partisan tart would LIE at CBS???


10 posted on 09/04/2008 9:30:25 AM PDT by weegee ("We now know far more about Sarah Palin in just 4days than we've learned about B.Obama in 17 months")
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To: Kid Shelleen

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/22/alaska.bridge.ap/

Info on the bridge


11 posted on 09/04/2008 9:31:16 AM PDT by Soliton (> 100)
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To: Kid Shelleen
I do not have a lot of time to investigate them all. I was hoping for some ammo to fire back.

First things first. All politicians lie. Does not matter if they have an R or a D behind their name. Some lie more than others...and have bigger lies.

Lawyers are masters of lying and last time I looked Palin was not a lawyer.

12 posted on 09/04/2008 9:32:44 AM PDT by am452 (Pres Bush: Why more importance on protecting Georgias border than our own?)
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To: Kid Shelleen
Pretty lame across the board. Palin just had Trig, but they are pointing to actions she did well before she had Trig. The bridge to nowhere is a change of mind to use the money in a better manner. And she is correct - Obama did not sponsor any major legislation or reform. He 'helped' push reform through in the state senate, but did not sponsor it. And the Senate reform bill was hardly major. It failed to address the key ethics problems in the Senate - it was a band-aid.

Oh, and the energy lie? Obama has a nebulous plan of unproven approaches. Drilling for more oil now is a proven approach.

So the Dems are now calling differences of opinions lies. Typical.

13 posted on 09/04/2008 9:33:05 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Kid Shelleen

just watched CNN’s Soledad O’Brien sandbag former White House Communications Director Nicole Wallace by asking her how Sarah Palin can claim to be a defender of special needs children when she cut the budget for that Alaska office by 62 percent. Wallace wasn’t familiar with the charge — which isn’t surprising, since it’s only being made on DailyKos and another liberal site. (Tip for Ms. O’Brien: DailyKos is not a reliable news site.)

This charge is based on looking at the budget for Alaska’s Special Education Service Agency for 2007-2009. In fact, the December 2006 budget document that they cite would have been prepared by the outgoing administration — that of Republican Frank Murkowski, whom Palin defeated.

What’s gone unmentioned is that the Palin signed into law a dramatic reform of the state’s education financing system that equalizes aid to rural and urban districts, while significantly increasing funding for special needs students. From the publication Education Week:

Gov. Sarah Palin and state lawmakers have gone ahead with an overhaul of Alaska’s school funding system that supporters predict will provide much-needed financial help to rural schools and those serving students with disabilities.

The plan, enacted in the recently concluded session of the legislature, is based on recommendations issued by a legislative task force last year. It will phase in a greater flow of money to districts outside of Anchorage, Alaska’s largest city, over the next five years.

Advocates for rural and remote schools have lobbied for years for more funding, in particular noting the higher fuel, transportation, and other costs associated with providing education in communities scattered across the vast state.

A second part of the measure raises spending for students with special needs to $73,840 in fiscal 2011, from the current $26,900 per student in fiscal 2008, according to the Alaska Department of Education and Early Development (emphasis added).

So the Netroots and CNN allege that Palin cut special needs funding by 62 percent, by crediting her with the budget proposed by a political opponent. And the truth is that rather than a 62 percent cut, she’s actually increasing special needs funding by 175 percent.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/09/newest_palin_smear_she_cut_spe.asp


14 posted on 09/04/2008 9:33:29 AM PDT by Soliton (> 100)
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To: Kid Shelleen

So, is SeeBS dedicating an entire wing of “fact-checkers” to the Hussein/Plagerist campaign...or just the “fact-checker” for Dan Rather?


15 posted on 09/04/2008 9:34:21 AM PDT by Prov1322 (Enjoy my wife's incredible artwork at www.watercolorARTwork.com! (This space no longer for rent))
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To: Kid Shelleen

Tell your doofus liberal friend to do some “fact checking” on BO and Bill Ayers first. Then tell him to find out how BO hired lawyers to challenge the petitions of his opponents in Chicago to get them thrown off the ticket. Then ask him EXACTLY WHAT has BO accomplished, except to have written TWO memoirs about, what else, HIMSELF!


16 posted on 09/04/2008 9:34:35 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Slapshot68

“This sounds like another liberal misconception that cutting an INCREASE is cutting funding.”

NOT a “misconception” IMO as they do it all the time. It’s a standard tactic (SOP) the Left/Dems use to misinform the masses about their opposition.


17 posted on 09/04/2008 9:35:00 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, Call 'em what you will, they ALL have Fairies livin' in their Trees.)
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To: Slapshot68
If I’m reading the PDFs correctly, the schools still got more money than the year before. This sounds like another liberal misconception that cutting an INCREASE is cutting funding.

You are, and it is, although that last isn't a 'misconception", it is a deliberate, out and out lie...

the infowarrior

18 posted on 09/04/2008 9:36:54 AM PDT by infowarrior (“Let the voters decide if Palin is laughable.”-Tublecane)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Oh that’s right. Remember all the “fact checking” that happened after Obama’s speech? Remember? Anyone??


19 posted on 09/04/2008 9:37:23 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Slapshot68
If I’m reading the PDFs correctly, the schools still got more money than the year before. This sounds like another liberal misconception that cutting an INCREASE is cutting funding.

You are correct, it is the old liberal ploy of saying someone "cut" spending when they actually cut down the an increase to a smaller amount. Palin cut down an increase in funding but raised spending on special needs children by about double the old amount. I don't have the exact figures handy but they are floating around the internet somewhere. Just another liberal bunch of BS trying to tear down a great candidate, but they will have a hard time after that speech last night. Don't worry, Palin and McCain will counter all these lies and slanders.

20 posted on 09/04/2008 9:38:30 AM PDT by calex59
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