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MYSTERY SCHOOL RECORD ON OBAMA RESURFACES-IS IT GENUINE?
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=23582 ^

Posted on 08/14/2008 4:06:08 AM PDT by dascallie

14 Aug 08 -Andy Martin- 'Is Obama Jakarta Birth Certificate Genuine?" Quote: OBAMA AUTHOR ANDY MARTIN ON THE EMERGENCE OR REEMERGENCE OF A "DOCUMENT" ABOUT BARACK OBAMA'S PAST

MYSTERY SCHOOL RECORD ON OBAMA RESURFACES-IS IT GENUINE?

IF THE OBAMA SCHOOL REPORT IS AUTHENTIC, OBAMA FACES MAJOR PROBLEMS, SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT ADOPTION, LOSS OF CITIZENSHIP AND MORE

(NEW YORK)(August 14, 2008) When I prepared my new bestselling book "Obama: The Man Behind the Mask" (http://OrangeStatePress.com) I made clear on the back cover that the book was a "work-in-progress."

ContrarianCommentary.com received a mysterious document from various sources this morning, August 14th. The document purports to be an Associated Press photograph of Barack Obama's school register at the Assisi School in Jakarta. http://www.daylife.com/photo/01u33pL9Ns06D. In some iterations, the document comes with a translation. http://blog.changeandexperience.com/...istration.html If the document is authentic, and there are reasons to believe that it may not be, the Jakarta school report could torpedo Senator Barack Obama's quest for the presidency by raising questions about his constitutional eligibility to serve as president. At a minimum, Obama could face challenges and even lawsuits questioning his constitutional eligibility to serve as president.

ContrarianCommentary.com has been working on a major story about Obama's constitutional eligibility; this is not that story. Rather, the sudden and unexplained-and very belated-appearance or reappearance of the Associated Press document raises questions as to why the AP never covered the document extensively in 2007.

There is some evidence the document was available in 2007, and that the Chicago Tribune and possibly other media wrote about the school record at that time, see e.g. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...,4122936.story

Nevertheless, even an old document can acquire new meaning if the text is reviewed and reinterpreted in light of what is now known about Obama's murky family history.

A simple search indicates the school record is spreading like wildfire across the Internet. By the 14th (later today) or 15th, mainstream media may even be asking questions of the Associated Press or the Obama campaign. (Note: The mainstream print media collectively and substantially own the Associated Press as a "cooperative." See: http://www.ap.org/pages/about/about.html)

Here are the obvious questions. Is the "AP photo" genuine? When did it come into AP's possession? Did the AP write a story at the time, in 2007? Why has the document surfaced or resurfaced at this time in 2008? Who released it or re-released it and when? Where?

Here is the stinker: if the AP photograph is genuine, in light of what we have learned since 2007 it is likely that Obama's step-father Lolo Soetero indeed adopted the young Obama and made him an Indonesian citizen. That seems to be what the document says. The Tribune story (above) seems to blindly assume the document is ineffective and inaccurate. Not so fast.

From what we now know of the extensive "family" arrangements between Soetero and Mrs. Soetero-Dunham-Obama, if Soetero actually adopted Barack Obama, then the fact of his birth in Hawaii is meaningless or irrelevant. He would have had to apply to become a naturalized citizen after being adopted.

A great deal has been made in the past about Obama's religion and whether his parents "chose" Islam for him as a child. These questions can be debated insofar as religion is concerned. In that respect I have no quarrel with either the Tribune story or questions about the reemerged school record.

But there is no question that parents can change a child's citizenship, and allow him to be adopted by a foreign individual. Once a child is adopted, the old citizenship is terminated and the adoptee becomes a citizen of his or her new country. Thus, in a practical sense, a mother or father can "choose" their child's citizenship if they permit an adoption by a non-U.S. citizen.

The Tribune and other media at the time appear to have simply rejected or ignored the possibility that there had been an adoption, and that the school document was indeed accurate.

If the document is genuine, and if the Associated Press' photographer vouches for the document as to its origins, or renews vouching for the authenticity of the document, then the school record raises a rebuttable presumption that Obama was adopted by Soetero and became a citizen of Indonesia. Obama is therefore not eligible under the U. S. Constitution to be a candidate or hold the office of president.

The confusion over Obama's adoption may also explain his reluctance to either probe his mother about his origins, or to disclose the result of any such conversations in his two books. Rather, he suggests in "Dreams From My Father" that his mother died before he could ask her difficult questions. That is a peculiar stance for a 34 year-old man.

Finally, even if the "AP Photo" is a forgery or a photoshopped confection, there will still be an Internet fever and a new round of paranoia about the school record and its origins, even if the document's significance was partially ignored or obscured in 2007.

Stay tuned. Quote: I want to acknowledge the assistance of my Internet research assistants in preparing this story on very short notice. We have research assistance from the "sandbox" ("Iraq") to the sandlots, to the sandy beaches, and they are an invaluable part or ContrarianCommentary.com. Thanks team. Watch for an Andy Martin exclusive on the Hillary for President movement. August 14th (evening edition) Exclusive to ContrarianCommentary.com and nowhere else.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: andymartin; certifigate; colbaquiddic; islam; mohammedanism; obama; obamafamily; soetero
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1 posted on 08/14/2008 4:06:09 AM PDT by dascallie
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To: dascallie

Are we useful idiots of the Clinton Machine here?


2 posted on 08/14/2008 4:11:38 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: dascallie
What I really do not understand is why the FEC is not involved in this.

It seems to me that the FEC has (or ought to have) the authority, and the duty, to establish the eligibility for any and all candidates for federal office.

It is in everyone's interest to avoid this crap.

They could do it by requiring proof of eligibility (citizenship, age, non-feloniousness) at filing time.

Why do they not do this?

3 posted on 08/14/2008 4:13:21 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: mvpel

You want to defeat Obama or not? This is relevant for all of us.


4 posted on 08/14/2008 4:17:26 AM PDT by SolidWood (God Bless Georgia and grant them victory over Russia!)
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To: mvpel

No. And I say that sincerely. If she had anything substantial she would have used it and not lost millions of her own dollars holding back. If there is one thing we here at FR know for sure - it is that Hillary is greedy and wants money. Being rich is important to her.

Since I started looking into Obama’s past, I’ve met some nice Democrats online who are horrified of Obama’s anti-American attitudes. Many think Obama unqualified and Hillary better qualified while others say the Dems are fracturing and they’ll vote for McCain.

Could the Clinton’s be holding back on some important information, waiting to spring it at the convention in Denver? I doubt it. But, we’ll have to wait to see.


5 posted on 08/14/2008 4:20:51 AM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: SolidWood

I’m just wondering why the Clintinoids didn’t play some of these cards when they would have helped their candidate.


6 posted on 08/14/2008 4:21:30 AM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (QMC(SW) USN........ CG21 DD988 FFG34 PC6 ARS53)
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To: dascallie

Well now.

Let us sit back, and break out the GALCTIC sized popcorn bag.

Woo Hoo!


7 posted on 08/14/2008 4:21:59 AM PDT by roaddog727 (BS does not get bridges built - the funk you see is the funk you do)
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To: dascallie

Now several will refuse to put him on their ballot. ? I still think he’s a ploy of hilarys. put forth to water down any oppsition to her.


8 posted on 08/14/2008 4:24:28 AM PDT by Waco (Rule with a gun, get more done. famous MAO slogan. Famous RAT dream.b)
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To: dascallie

Hmmmm.......so the thot plickens, eh...........


9 posted on 08/14/2008 4:24:40 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: dascallie

Barack Obama’s school register at the Assisi School in Jakarta - http://www.daylife.com/photo/01u33pL9Ns06D

With a translation - http://blog.changeandexperience.com/

Chicago Tribune story -
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0703250340mar25,0,4122936.story


10 posted on 08/14/2008 4:25:01 AM PDT by Perseverando
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To: Izzy Dunne

Because the big “0” is a crat.


11 posted on 08/14/2008 4:25:11 AM PDT by Big Mack (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain TO EAT VEGETABLES!)
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To: mvpel
ANY allegation must be discussed and investigated. satan is working through this muzzie POS.

LLS

12 posted on 08/14/2008 4:28:28 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( REAGANISM not communism)
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To: SatinDoll

Good post.


13 posted on 08/14/2008 4:30:26 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth
If you had listened to Rush yesterday, you would have your answer... seems there were two camps in hildebeast's corner... one wanted to go nuke and use more than just this that they have... the side that prevailed told her to take the high road... look for her to stick a knife in osamabama’s back in Denver.

LLS

14 posted on 08/14/2008 4:31:00 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( REAGANISM not communism)
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To: SolidWood
You want to defeat Obama or not? This is relevant for all of us.

I want to defeat him in November, not three days before the Democrat Party Convention.

15 posted on 08/14/2008 4:32:39 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Izzy Dunne
What I really do not understand is why the FEC is not involved in this. It seems to me that the FEC has (or ought to have) the authority, and the duty, to establish the eligibility for any and all candidates for federal office. It is in everyone's interest to avoid this crap. They could do it by requiring proof of eligibility (citizenship, age, non-feloniousness) at filing time. Why do they not do this?

Because of the way the electoral college works. There will not be one vote actually cast for Barack Obama until the electors vote some 6 weeks after the general election. Until then, we are only voting for electors, not for a particular candidate.

So the ultimate authority rests in Congress, which has to certify the result of the electoral college, and can challenge any result presented based on eligibility or process concerns (note that some BDS-suffering 'rats tried to do the latter after the 2004 elections).

That said, there's no reason Congress could not delegate its authority to the FEC through a more preemptive approach. Also, the individual states have the right to set qualifications and restrictions on electors, and they could likewise enact legislation that would require that a candidate whom electors are registering as pledged for must provide proof of eligibility.

16 posted on 08/14/2008 4:32:40 AM PDT by kevkrom ("This is not the [fill in the blank] that I knew" - Barack Obama)
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To: SatinDoll
“Could the Clinton’s be holding back on some important information,”
Hmmmm,,, I suppose it might be possible that they know fer shure that Borat Obammy is ineligible, but are biting their tongues, confident that someone completely uninvolved with them will find the “killer” documents. That way the party would not be split by the disclosure.
17 posted on 08/14/2008 4:32:42 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Izzy Dunne

Because, if I understand this correctly, the primaries and caucuses used to pick presidential nominees are solely responsible for vetting the candidates who run to be the nominee for their party. Money (campaign finances) and meeting filing deadlines (so the voters pamphlets and ballots can be printed) are two of the things the Feds and States are concerned about at that time. THEY DO NOT VET THE CANDIDATES - THE RESPECTIVE PARTIES DO THAT.

After the conventions then the gloves come off and it is bloody bar knuckles fighting combined with treasure hunting for the deepest secrets about the other candidate.


18 posted on 08/14/2008 4:33:16 AM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: dascallie

Oh lets send this information to that new web site John “reporting for duty” Kerry started about stopping the lies about Obama. It would be funny to have them try to disprove it. lol


19 posted on 08/14/2008 4:36:40 AM PDT by blueyon (Every one should get their 15 mins of fame under the bus)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

They probably do know but need the political machine in Chicago too much to risk alienating those people in the Windy City by shutting down Obama.


20 posted on 08/14/2008 4:37:46 AM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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