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To Save Europe, President Bush Must Go to Tblisi
Sunday, August 10, 2008 | Kristinn

Posted on 08/10/2008 8:49:55 PM PDT by kristinn

Russia's move into Georgia must be stopped--and stopped now. The cause of freedom in Europe, and indeed the world depends on it. For if they are not stopped here, Russia will act to place other former Soviet republics and captive nations once again under its domination.

Those now free nations are looking to America as their protector. They know that if Georgia is allowed to be absorbed by Russia, that it will only be a matter of time before a feckless Western Europe will once again stand by and do nothing as they too are swallowed up by an emboldened Russia.

There is much talk that there is not much America can do in this situation. Others say that America does not have a dog in this fight. Both points of view are wrong.

The dog we have in this fight is our own freedom and independence. Russia has been building an anti-American axis with leftist governments like Venezuala and the radical Islamic government of Iran to undercut America's dominance in world affairs.

Russia has also made clear that it will use its control of oil and gas supplies and pipelines to dictate behavior in Europe.

This move by Russia into Georgia not only immediately threatens the freedom of the Georgian people, it also threatens the one major cross-continental European pipeline that is not under Russian control.

It is true that America would ignite a world war were it to precipitously engage Russia militarily in Georgia. It is also true that diplomatic efforts in the United Nations and by the European Union will not accomplish anything to save Georgia.

The typical diplomatic response will not suffice. What is needed is a bold, game-changing step that no one expects.

That step is for President Bush to fly to Tblisi on Air Force One from Beijing and invite Putin to meet with him and Georgian President Saakashvili in Tblisi this week.

With this effort, President Bush will send a clear signal to the former Soviet republics and captive nations that America will stand with them against Russian aggression.

It will also send a strong message to Russia that their old ways of doing business are over.

Would Russia dare attack the President while he is on a peace mission? I think not. I think they would be forced to stop fighting and come to the negotiating table.

The negotiations would be ugly. Georgia would have to give something to placate the Russians so they would not lash out in humiliation. But the paramount goal of preserving Georgia's independence would be obtained.

This could be accomplished without America firing a shot. But it would only work with the Russians knowing a war with America would result if they harmed the President on his peace mission.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bush; georgia
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1 posted on 08/10/2008 8:49:56 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn

I wish.....


2 posted on 08/10/2008 8:53:55 PM PDT by redstateconfidential (If you are the smartest person in the room,you are hanging out with the wrong people.)
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To: kristinn

I like your idea.

Or, and its a different message, send Cheney.


3 posted on 08/10/2008 8:55:16 PM PDT by marron
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"That step is for President Bush to fly to Tblisi on Air Force One from Beijing..."

since the russkies have used crater bombs to disable airstrips, how is this possible? (i do agree with your sentiment though)

4 posted on 08/10/2008 8:58:42 PM PDT by robomatik ((wine plug: renascentvineyards.com cabernet sauvignon, riesling, and merlot))
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To: kristinn

Russia will arm Iran. They will threaten to hand backpack nukes to Hezzbola. This is Stalin, in the 21st Century. This is hard core, nuke politics with millions of lives at risk......again.


5 posted on 08/10/2008 8:58:46 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: kristinn

Outlandish idea....but it would work.


6 posted on 08/10/2008 8:58:56 PM PDT by WVNight (We havn't played Cowboys and Muslims yet....)
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To: kristinn

I like your idea. We need bold right now.

Georgia has openly and famously made itself our friend and ally, and while we don’t necessarily want to make ourself hostage to everything they do, we do have to draw a line here. And mean it.

The Baltics are watching. So is Poland. So is Romania. So is China and Taiwan and Iran and both Koreas. Either friendship with us means something or it doesn’t and you’d better make other arrangements.


7 posted on 08/10/2008 8:59:16 PM PDT by marron
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To: marron
Nah, we can't afford to lose Cheney. The original idea is better.
8 posted on 08/10/2008 9:00:13 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: marron

Good points! I agree!


9 posted on 08/10/2008 9:00:17 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("I'm trying to save the planet!" - Nancy Pelosi ..........ROTFLMAO! What a dumbass!)
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To: kristinn
Sorry my FRiend, I don't see it happening anytime soon, in fact I see nothing but the GWB Express leaving the station, running over whoever happens to be on the rails, be it Georgia, the North Korean people who were sold out for a 'deal' with Comrade Chia Pet, Israel and the Middle East in general with our all-talk-and-no-action approach to the Iranians and their nuclear fixation, or for that matter the persistent and chronic human rights violations committed by the ChiComs in Beijing where our illustrious President is even now, having a grand ol' time while South Ossetia is having the crap bombed out of them by the Soviets, errr, Russians, right.

It's a great idea Kristinn, but it's about as likely as Condi Rice resigning from State and urging the President to appoint John Bolton because we "need a more assertive and muscular voice in the world, and less appeasement".

Ain't gonna happen. Meanwhile...
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10 posted on 08/10/2008 9:00:26 PM PDT by mkjessup
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To: marron; kristinn
Or, and its a different message, send Cheney.

Grand idea.

11 posted on 08/10/2008 9:01:21 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: marron
Friendship with the US means Obama will give away the store to your enemies for the sake of a gushing leading editorial in the New York Times, and your people will be run through shredders. The left will then congratulate itself on its high minded and enlightened moralism and rationality in the conduct of foreign policy.

Why? Because our leaders are in general putzes and when they do actually do anything, the press and other pols turn on them, and the public abandons them to go shopping. The west is rotten. And there will be hell to pay.

12 posted on 08/10/2008 9:03:27 PM PDT by JasonC
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How about Europe go in and help Europe first. Then, if they get stuck and ask us for our help we then consider obliging them. I’m a little tired of saving everyone else’s butts and having them dump all over us for it.


13 posted on 08/10/2008 9:05:45 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: BOBTHENAILER

I say send John Bolton.


14 posted on 08/10/2008 9:06:31 PM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: robomatik
since the russkies have used crater bombs to disable airstrips, how is this possible?


15 posted on 08/10/2008 9:10:51 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer

Ahh the flying deathtrap... ;)


16 posted on 08/10/2008 9:14:24 PM PDT by rjp2005 (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: kristinn

I fully concur with your thoughts of standing beside and with Georgia. However, I do not think sending the President or Vice President to Tblisi, only TWO HOURS drive from South Ossetia is a prudent move. Certainly not until cooler heads prevail. The US does have some troops in Georgia; but not enough should things get dicey.


17 posted on 08/10/2008 9:16:40 PM PDT by Alia
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To: robomatik

Our planes are flying home Georgian troops that have been in the Middle East helping so there must be some runways open.

I am of the send Cheney crowd. In the early 90’s when he was SecDef he said he would never trust the Russians, and he turned out to be right. Everyone else in the Bush 41 administration was going overboard with the thought of Russia becoming a democracy but not Dick Cheney. Cheney also didn’t say he could see into Putin’s heart or whatever and know who he was which I thought was a dumb statement and one that Cheney never would have made.


18 posted on 08/10/2008 9:16:46 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( VOTE FOR McCAIN 2008! McCainNow.com; LetsGetThisRight.com)
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Would Russia dare attack the President while he is on a peace mission?

Culpable Deniability. A bomb accidentally misfired; a pilot was nervous and hit the wrong button.

19 posted on 08/10/2008 9:17:43 PM PDT by Alia
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To: Vince Ferrer
good point!

a lucky anonymous s.o.b. with a grenade launcher might create problems with a strike that either side could plausibly deny. i say -send in "the anointed one" for this mission.
;)

20 posted on 08/10/2008 9:17:56 PM PDT by robomatik ((wine plug: renascentvineyards.com cabernet sauvignon, riesling, and merlot))
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