Posted on 08/09/2008 7:29:47 AM PDT by Will88
"Joe Lieberman, the former Democratic vice-presidential nominee who has endorsed John McCain, is being vetted as a potential running mate for the Republican presidential hopeful, according to an adviser to Mr McCain’s campaign."
"Conservatives would be pissed as hell – I think you would have a revolt, but sometimes John does what John wants to do,” the McCain adviser said.
(Excerpt) Read more at ft.com ...
I agree the timing...90 days prior to an election...was ill-conceived.
But objectively...it was merely a written proposal ...not a bill...containing virtually everything everybody was looking for. It's a good basis for the Congress to use when they try to address this issue next year after the inauguration...of hopefully John McCain.
...credit goes to MACVSOG68 whose opinion and intellect have influenced my position. Thanks MAC!
Fixed it for ya.
Goldwater lost in a landslide to LBJ because he didn't understand how to focus his message and advance conservatism. And he was a lousy candidate.
Reagan won two landslides because he built a consensus that united Americans behind common goals. One of those goals was to advance pro-life issues and the Religious Right helped to elect Reagan twice. Goldwater was pro-choice. Later in his life, old Barry came out in support of homo rights and even defended Bill Clinton. Truth was, Goldwater hated Reagan for his successes.
Didn't McCain go to La Raza and point to his votes for Ginsberg and Breyers and say "you don't have to worry about my SCOTUS picks?" Why, yes he did.
Simply do the opposite of what the far-RIGHT fringe wants. Show the average American voter that the Republican Party is not controlled by crazed zealots poorly disguised as good bible-carrying Christians.
Show the country that not all Conservatives are scary.
Hey HOW ABOUT THAT???....that's what McCain is trying to do!!!
Cheers FRiend!
I never said he would make better picks than McCain, I did point out that you think McCain will pick conservatives, I don't. I think with McCain we will get liberal judge candidtates. There is nothing in my question to lead you to believe that I thought Obamaosama picks would be better than McCains.
I think the main difference between the two would be the degree of liberalism the judge candidates are infected with, but they will both pick liberals, and these judges will be bad for America.
McCain is a centrist at best and more left than right and he has poor judgement. He won't think the people he nominates will hurt America but they will.
He will pick liberal judge candidates because he sees himself as a Maverick who goes against the established conservative thinking in "order to reach across the aisle". Yes, he is still infected with that nonsense.
I will vote for McCain, not because I think he is good for America but because he is better for America than Obamaosama, he is none the less still bad for America, and I don't expect any decent judge candidates from him, IMO.
Listen up Reagan Man.
I am the BEDROCK of the Republican Party. Goldwater Conservatism. William Buckley Conservatism.
“You” may be the steel girders supporting the structure...but as we found out on 9-11....steel melts.
Bedrock isn’t going anywhere! ;^)
From your #66 to me:
“You’re no different that the poor sap in the movie Deerhunter.”
From you #97:
“Let’s try to do without the personal attacks...for a change. Let’s agree to debate this as gentlemen, okay?”
Now what came first, and who set the tone for this exchange? Now that that has been clarified...
Anyone who thought Jerry Falwell ever influenced a large number of voters never understood the “Religious Right”. Some Republican candidate will win a majority of that vote, but other candidates also win votes. Several people have posted data showing that Romney did well among that group, even though others say Romney would cost Republicans most all their votes.
But the pro-life vote exists in every state, in the most conservative states, in liberal states, and very much in the battleground states. If you think Republicans can just flake off the religious vote in Ohio, Indiana, Florida, and other similar states, and still win, then maybe you haven’t thought this through.
All those Dems. who might vote against Obama, just who are they? I think they’re white union members, or voters who believe they should still vote for the most pro-labor party. So they vote for the Dem., though many are otherwise conservative. But just because some might vote against Obama doesn’t mean they want to be long-term Republicans. We always have a few brilliant Republican economists advocating eliminating the minimum wage, just the thing to win those pro-labor, conservative Dems.
Just what group of voters do you think these middle-of-the-road Republicans are going to pick-up? And, don’t think some of the more conservative Republicans won’t sit out an election where the Republicans have become some mushy middle. Voters will be lost during a move toward the middle. Specifically what voters will be gained?
I guess you didn't read the written proposal. I has everything the democrats want and virtually none of what conservatives want and know the country needs. The 5 republicans who joined the gang of 10 have show poor judgement and should be voted out of office. They feel they are safe because they are not up for re-election at this time. They are not safe and this proposal is a POS.
Who would undoubtably lose in 2010 when he/she would have to run for the full Senate term.
“It’s a good basis for the Congress to use when they try to address this issue next year after the inauguration...of hopefully John McCain.”
The problem is, the Gang of 10 is trying to advance this mushy compromise now. And it hands Obama just what he might have wanted, without even knowing it. He has already given it his approval.
And, from the details I’ve heard, it does next to nothing: opens more sites for drilling off the four Gulf states where we’ve been drilling for 30 years, plus maybe Virginia.
Drilling needs to remain the number one campaign issue until election day if you want McCain to have his best chance. And he needs to flip-flop some more on drilling, including ANWR and drilling w/o state agreement, unless the state funds and furnishes its own Coast Guard and Navy.
“Simply do the opposite of what the far-RIGHT fringe wants. Show the average American voter that the Republican Party is not controlled by crazed zealots poorly disguised as good bible-carrying Christians.”
Yep, the mushy, mealy mouthed middle. Or, do you mean McCain should come out strong for “the right to choose” and for same sex marriage and gays in the military just to show the “Religious Right”?
Mayube you just want to insult those you consider the “Religious Right” without bothering to think through what might actually happen.
You’re still not saying what voters you think would be lost and gained.
Better hope there are enough anti-Obama votes to elect McCain. I’ve thought for some time that the “against” votes will decide this election, or those who sit it out.
I very much enjoy reading your posts and respect your positions.
Just what group of voters do you think these middle-of-the-road Republicans are going to pick-up? And, don’t think some of the more conservative Republicans won’t sit out an election where the Republicans have become some mushy middle. Voters will be lost during a move toward the middle. Specifically what voters will be gained?
Taking into account that the American voting public historically get sick and tired of a political party after 8 years....
Taking into account that the MSM has helped foster a negative identity on anything Conservative...thereby tarnishing any GOP candidate.....
Taking into account that there is a candidate nominated by the RAT party that is a militant that HATES what our country is...is a Black Liberation Ideologue....is a MARXIST....
we are going to be able to garner millions of votes from good Democrats who still love our country first...before willing to turn it over to these radicals.
Hopefully...enough BLUE DOGS to counter and cancel out the conservatives who seem to have their noses firmly planted against the tree...and who no longer can see the forest.
The bedrock of the GOP is conservatism, NOT libertarianism.
I've been listening to your attacks on conservatives for years. You run around FR using the phrase "right wing extremists" as a pejorative. That is a major falsehood of the first order.
Again. Goldwater was married to one of the founders of Arizona's Planned Parenthood. They have been promoting abortion rights for almost a century! Goldwater supported abortion rights. He wasn't pro-life.
My Father was a Bill Buckley conservative. I was raised on Bill Buckley's Firing Line and read National Review religiously. You don't sound like a WFB conservative to me.
Nam Vet
Btw. Didn’t you support Rooty Giuliani for POTUS and later on Myth Romney too?
Two well known Rockefeller Republicans.
That's nonsense Reagan Man.
I have had FReeRepublic as my home page on ALL of my computers for TEN YEARS! FReeRepublic is my home! You don't survive in this forum "attacking conservatives for years", sir.
But when somebody needs a breath mint...I tell them.
I didn’t endorse anybody specifically.
The first Republican I got excited about was Fred Thompson...but he proved to be DOA.
I would have been okay with Guiliani for the same reasons I am ‘okay’ with McCain. Neither will take any sh*t from anybody trying to kill Americans.
I like Romney’s fiscal experience. He understands that small business runs the country....not IBM or General Motors.
Reagan Man.....I just want to win, buddy.
Cheers!
“we are going to be able to garner millions of votes from good Democrats who still love our country first...before willing to turn it over to these radicals.”
I agree many of those will vote Republican this year, but there is still no reason to alienate the religious, pro-life voters who have been dependable Republicans voters since about 1972. And there is no guarantee that any Dems. or Independents who vote Republican this time won’t move back to a more moderate Dem. candidate, or back to Hillary who most probably voted for during the primaries.
You’re still dissing some conservatives without specifying which issues they have their “noses firmly planted against the tree” on. If you mean illegal aliens, about 70% of Republican voters want the laws to be enforced and no amnesty by any name. - If you want Republicans to just ignore that issue and let Lord McCain do what he thinks is best, then, yes, you and McCain are both elitists who think you know better than the peasants. No way to rebuild the party A good way to weaken it further.
>>>>>That's nonsense Reagan Man.
In post #87 you said the following.
>>>>>I think POTUS McCain...having WON without the support of the wacky RIGHT fringe...will be able to use the mid-term elections in 2010 to further stop the extremists in both parties from gaining influence.
Sounds like the perfect use of a pejorative to me.
According to the liberal establishment, Reagan was an extremist and Free Republic is home to extremism. You seem to be agreeing with them. As you have posted before.
Pretty much sums up the spoiled, arrogant, whimsical admiral's son.
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