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Russian jets bomb Georgian airbase - Tbilisi
Reuters ^ | 08 Aug 2008 | Reporting by Matt Robinson, editing by Tim Pearce

Posted on 08/08/2008 6:41:18 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246

TBILISI, Aug 8 (Reuters) - Russian jets bombed the Vaziani military airbase outside the Georgian capital Tbilisi on Friday, a senior Georgian security official told Reuters.

"No one was wounded but some buildings have been destroyed," said Kakha Lamaia. The airbase is some 25 kilometres (15 miles) from Tbilisi.

"They have declared war against us," said Lamaia.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: 888; caucasus; geopolitics; georgia; georgiantroops; russianmilitary; tbilisi; war
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1 posted on 08/08/2008 6:41:18 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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2 posted on 08/08/2008 6:42:23 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246
"They have declared war against us," said Lamaia.

They would have to recognize their sovereignty to declare war. As it stands, Russia views them more as a prodigal child.
3 posted on 08/08/2008 6:45:03 AM PDT by contemplator (Capitalism gets no Rock Concerts)
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To: Grzegorz 246

what did they expect?

the russians were looking for the slightest excuse to get involved.


4 posted on 08/08/2008 6:45:37 AM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: Grzegorz 246

Ever notice how the Russians always seem to go ape during the Olympics?


5 posted on 08/08/2008 6:45:45 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: contemplator
This is bad. It is no time for Kum-Bi-Yah.
6 posted on 08/08/2008 6:46:27 AM PDT by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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To: Grzegorz 246; All
Scooby Ruh-Roh

The Russians must think nobody's gonna notice, since we are ALL surely glued to our TV's watching the Olympics and or anxiously awaiting the next word out of the Obammassiah's mouth....

7 posted on 08/08/2008 6:49:15 AM PDT by musicman
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To: Grzegorz 246

Just the beginning. I fear the Soviet Union is looking to be reborn.


8 posted on 08/08/2008 6:51:59 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Slapshot68
They've taken the mantle of some sort of "protector" of the South Ossetians on themselves and reacted to Georgia's move. Or should I say perhaps "overreacted", because while Georgia moved troops into their own sovereign territory to reclaim it from separatists, Russia just bombed the soil of another nation. That's a straight-up casus belli right there, except Georgia's in no position to declare war on Russia.

This has the potential to get hella ugly.

}:-)4

9 posted on 08/08/2008 6:55:28 AM PDT by Moose4 (http://moosedroppings.wordpress.com -- Because 20 million self-important blogs just aren't enough.)
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To: Moose4

Medvedev made a statement that Russia will protect it’s citizens wherever they are located.

That sounds a little open ended to me. Russian citizens are everywhere in the former eastern bloc.

This move is troubling.


10 posted on 08/08/2008 6:58:18 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Grzegorz 246

The russian mafia needs a conflict to stabelize oil prices. Oil became an official bear market today (no pun intended)


11 posted on 08/08/2008 7:00:59 AM PDT by Soliton (> 100)
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To: Slapshot68

If Kosovo can be independent from Serbia, South Ossetia can be independent from Georgia.


12 posted on 08/08/2008 7:01:39 AM PDT by LowTaxesEqualProsperity
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To: Slapshot68
Since then, Georgia has shot down 4 Russian military aircraft, and Russia has retaliated by sending a column of 150+ tanks into Georgia.
We have a military presence in Georgia, and they are an ally.
This could get real ugly, real fast.
13 posted on 08/08/2008 7:02:37 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Slapshot68

look for the Islamic southern states to cecede en mass

While they are already separrate, there will be a cultural secession soon


14 posted on 08/08/2008 7:02:37 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: Slapshot68
Medvedev made a statement that Russia will protect it’s citizens wherever they are located.

Sounds a little too much like Hitler saying that the Reich was concerned about the affairs of Germans everywhere...y'know, like the Sudetenland and the rest of Czechoslovakia. I don't think Putin and his sockpuppet Medvedev would go that far, but obviously they're willing to use force beyond what anybody was expecting. Building up tanks on the Ossetian border was one thing. Bombing an airbase outside Tblisi, that's a whole other level of escalation.

}:-)4

15 posted on 08/08/2008 7:09:00 AM PDT by Moose4 (http://moosedroppings.wordpress.com -- Because 20 million self-important blogs just aren't enough.)
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To: Grzegorz 246

OMG!!Somebody contact the UN !!Hurry!!


16 posted on 08/08/2008 7:10:21 AM PDT by sidewinder009
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To: LowTaxesEqualProsperity
If Kosovo can be independent from Serbia, South Ossetia can be independent from Georgia.

This is true - Russia has the moral edge here: we bombed the cr*p out of Serbia for doing exactly what Georgia is doing.

Of course we were wrong then, and Russia is wrong now. Serbia/Georgia is a sovereign state and has the right to deal with internal revolt. But we will need to acknowledge how badly we screwed over Serbia when Russia points out the parallels - as they surely will.

17 posted on 08/08/2008 7:11:46 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Moose4

The Russians are poorly trained, have crappy equipment, low morale ... Go Georgia !!


18 posted on 08/08/2008 7:11:48 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Grzegorz 246

Russian,chinese,iranian alliance vs the free western world is coming. Choose sides.


19 posted on 08/08/2008 7:14:29 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: Grzegorz 246; Psalm 73
We not only have military personel in Georgia, we have had personel at the Vaziani training center since 2002. They may well have come under fire today. From last month

Marines and Georgians move to the Field


VAZIANI TRAINING BASE, Georgia-Hungry Marines and Georgians finally arrive at the end of the chow line giving them their first hot meal of the day and allowing them to continue their conversations over dinner.

20 posted on 08/08/2008 7:14:42 AM PDT by SJackson (Sell San Francisco to China to finance Obama health care, Bill O'Reilly)
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To: Slapshot68

Putin never accepted the break up of the USSR. He’s an imperialist Russian; just another leader in a long line of imperialists.

The Russian economic and energy policies toward Ukraine is another manifestation of their imperial will. By diplomatic thuggery or brute force, a fascist Russia will regain the lost imperial provinces of the old USSR. Only the symbols will change.


21 posted on 08/08/2008 7:16:57 AM PDT by henkster (Politics is the art of telling a bigger and more believable lie more often than your opponent)
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To: sidewinder009
Everybody relax: Angela Merkel has just demanded “an immediate end of all fighting.
22 posted on 08/08/2008 7:17:09 AM PDT by cartan
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To: Scythian
The Russians are poorly trained, have crappy equipment, low morale ... Go Georgia !!

And their military hazes recruits to such a degree that they are maimed or gay when it's over.

23 posted on 08/08/2008 7:19:01 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (My son just joined the Navy!!!!!!!!!)
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To: cartan

Thank God it’s all over!


24 posted on 08/08/2008 7:19:19 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Scythian

Go Bulldogs!


25 posted on 08/08/2008 7:19:54 AM PDT by proudpapa (McCain-Pawlenty '08)
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To: Grzegorz 246

Am I mistaken in thinking we have troops in Georgia training their forces?


26 posted on 08/08/2008 7:21:17 AM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: Grzegorz 246

What does the 0bamassiah say we should do?


27 posted on 08/08/2008 7:21:29 AM PDT by Mannaggia l'America
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To: LowTaxesEqualProsperity
If Kosovo can be independent from Serbia, South Ossetia can be independent from Georgia.

The day will come when Mexican nationals will say the same thing about Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and Southern California.

28 posted on 08/08/2008 7:21:54 AM PDT by esarlls3
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To: proudpapa
Go Bulldogs!

Go SEC! Bulldogs preseason #1.
29 posted on 08/08/2008 7:22:37 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220
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To: Scythian

But they have larger no. of troops than Georgia and in the end that’s what will count...if there is a full scale war.


30 posted on 08/08/2008 7:26:42 AM PDT by sidewinder009
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To: Grzegorz 246

i hope our troops there are safe!!


31 posted on 08/08/2008 7:26:43 AM PDT by sidewinder009
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To: Mannaggia l'America
"What does the 0bamassiah say we should do?"

Join hands and sing Kumbayah?

sw

32 posted on 08/08/2008 7:37:40 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: esarlls3

Yes, we opened a real can of worms with Kosovo.

This has been my fear, too.


33 posted on 08/08/2008 7:38:16 AM PDT by LowTaxesEqualProsperity
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To: sidewinder009
But they have larger no. of troops than Georgia and in the end that’s what will count...if there is a full scale war.

That's starting to look more and more likely as the hours progress.

34 posted on 08/08/2008 7:40:36 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (A citizen using a weapon to shoot a criminal is the ultimate act of independence from government.)
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To: Mannaggia l'America

Last I heard, it was “inflate our tires”.


35 posted on 08/08/2008 7:42:56 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Boycott Washington D.C. until they allow gun ownership)
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To: DungeonMaster
"The Russians are poorly trained, have crappy equipment, low morale ..."

"And their military hazes recruits to such a degree that they are maimed or gay when it's over."

Are you guys Nuts?? The dumbest thing you can do in war is underestimate your enemy! The Russians still have equipment that can match ours; I sure don't want to see our boys go up against them!

One final point: Russia is the ONLY nation in the world that can destroy the USA in a day, and if they start losing bad conventionally they may be inclined to go out in a blaze of glory.

36 posted on 08/08/2008 7:43:41 AM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( The Constitution needs No interpreting, only APPLICATION!)
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To: proudpapa

We haven’t deployed Metal Storm for air defense yet, but our Possum Storm Cannons have brought down 4 Russkie Bombers!
Yee Haw


37 posted on 08/08/2008 7:46:01 AM PDT by redstateconfidential (If you are the smartest person in the room,you are hanging out with the wrong people.)
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To: Psalm 73

This is something for us to stay out of!


38 posted on 08/08/2008 7:49:14 AM PDT by Chickensoup ('08 VOTING, NOT for the GOP, but INSTEAD, for the SUPREME COURT that will be BEST for my FAMILY!!)
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To: Mannaggia l'America

Obama was so upset when he heard of the Russian attack on Georgia, he stated that he would not eat arugala for at least a week in solidarity with the Georgians.

Also, when he first learned of the attack, Obama asked, “Are my supporters in Atlanta and Savannah safe after the attack on Georgia?”


39 posted on 08/08/2008 7:51:30 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Yes, Mr. Pickens, we CAN drill our way out of this.....)
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To: Grzegorz 246
Georgia is fighting for independence??????
Damn, I knew the South would rise again.. Go Georgia!!!
The rest of the South is right behind you..


40 posted on 08/08/2008 7:53:00 AM PDT by Riodacat (Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus.)
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To: Riodacat

http://www.37thtexas.org/html/DixieLyr.html


41 posted on 08/08/2008 7:55:40 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: Grzegorz 246

From haaretz.com News Flash:
17:07 White House: U.S. Pres. Bush, Russian PM Putin discuss conflict in Georgia (Reuters)


42 posted on 08/08/2008 7:56:16 AM PDT by norcal joe
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To: Slapshot68
Well....they did clamp down on the supposedly free-press a few years ago.....and then started telling the People that the bad ole U.S. is their biggest enemy.

Step one: Control the media the People sees.

43 posted on 08/08/2008 8:00:11 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment...cut in half during the Clinton years.)
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To: norcal joe

“17:07 White House: U.S. Pres. Bush, Russian PM Putin discuss conflict in Georgia (Reuters)”

Bush will look into his eyes and see his soul, whereas realists only see a hole.


44 posted on 08/08/2008 8:02:20 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("bigger government means constricting freedom"....................RWR)
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To: Slapshot68
Medvedev made a statement that Russia will protect it’s citizens wherever they are located.

Think about it; we have Fox saying the same about the Mexicans in this country -- and a government and President who don't care!

45 posted on 08/08/2008 8:04:47 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Grzegorz 246

OK everyone take a deep breath then go read about this conflict. Georgian troops have always fought alongside russians in this separatist war. This is not Russia vs Georgia.


46 posted on 08/08/2008 8:05:58 AM PDT by omega4179 (B.Hussein Keep the change!)
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To: LowTaxesEqualProsperity

“If Kosovo can be independent from Serbia, South Ossetia can be independent from Georgia.”

Damn straight.


47 posted on 08/08/2008 8:08:27 AM PDT by serbami68 (!)
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To: omega4179

Is that you, Jack Ryan? (I watched `The Sum of All Fears’ last night)


48 posted on 08/08/2008 8:11:43 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: omega4179
This is not Russia vs Georgia.

Dude, Russian and Georgian armor are shooting at each other. It is Russia V Georgia.

49 posted on 08/08/2008 8:12:03 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (A citizen using a weapon to shoot a criminal is the ultimate act of independence from government.)
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To: Slapshot68; Grampa Dave; TigersEye; MeekOneGOP
“Just the beginning. I fear the Soviet Union is looking to be reborn.”

That's what I was wondering. “The children of Gog and Magog shall rise up ...” [Keeps haunting me, although I doubt this this is a truly Biblical moment. FRegards ...]

50 posted on 08/08/2008 8:15:43 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March ("The internet needs a gatekeeper." -- Hillary Rodham [Clinton])
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