Posted on 08/08/2008 3:25:06 AM PDT by Man50D
Only a year after banning all negative messages about homosexuality in public schools throughout the state, the California Legislature now is ordering school children to celebrate "gay" lifestyle choices.
"If signed into law, AB 2567 will mean an official day commemorating homosexuality, bisexuality, and transsexuality in California government schools," said Randy Thomasson, president of the Campaign for Children and Families.
"This will harm children as young as kindergarten," he said. "Every May 22, AB 2567 will positively portray to children homosexual experimentation, homosexual 'marriages,' sex-change operations, and anything else that's 'in the closet.' Gov. Schwarzenegger should say no to this very inappropriate bill, which has nothing to do with academic excellences."
He said the passage by lawmakers of AB 2567 will require all California public schools to "conduct suitable commemorative exercises" in honor of the anti-religious, sexual-anarchy agenda of Milk, the late San Francisco supervisor who was a homosexual activist.
The California Assembly approved the plan 43-26 and the Senate 22-13, with both votes along party lines of Democrats supporting the homosexual agenda.
The plan comes on the heels of last year's school sexual indoctrination laws, Thomasson said. "When fully implemented, SB 777 and AB 394 will teach children in California government schools to support homosexuality, bisexuality, and transsexuality via instructional materials, programs and activities, and school 'safety' guidelines," he said. "In addition, the California State School Board this year implemented SB 71 requiring public schools that provide sex education to promote unmarried sexual activity with no restraints other than mutual consent."
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Children always seem to end up at the focal point of the homosexual agenda. They can’t force it on the boy scouts, but the public school system is open territory.
Homosexuality is a given. Across all cultures a stable one-n-twenty persons statistic exists.
I have no problem with people being gay. And I wouldn’t for the life of me classify it together with degeneracy or promiscuïty. We’re talking different mindsets here.
BUT: I am against installing a ‘celebrate-gayness-and-transsexuality’-day in schools. Now that’s an entirely different kettle of fish. And surely not good for the young either.
Only liberal religious theology can be propaganda and established as the true moral value system in our schools. Kids are never too young to be sexualized.
High taxes and govt interference in business and personal affairs. Businesses people are leaving Calif for Arizona, Nevada, Montana, Oregon and any where else to get away from this kind of homo agenda crap.
Throw in a school system that pushes the homo agenda on children and you are in trouble if you protest this b.s.?
So very glad I left Calif. years ago.
How? Gerbil pyrotechnic display?
” Homosexuality is a given. Across all cultures a stable one-n-twenty persons statistic exists.
I have no problem with people being gay. And I wouldn’t for the life of me classify it together with degeneracy or promiscuïty. We’re talking different mindsets here.
BUT: I am against installing a ‘celebrate-gayness-and-transsexuality’-day in schools. Now that’s an entirely different kettle of fish. And surely not good for the young either. “
I wish I’d written this .
Well it is not a stretch. More than half say they have had more than 20 partners, with more than 10 percent saying they had over 300 partners.
Much appreciated, thanks!
Life doesn’t offer many open-and-shut cases, and this certainly isn’t one of them.
When will the sane americans and families STAND UP and REALLY fight for their children !
This is not acceptable!
BTW I don’t think there are precisely “homosexual rights” but only individual rights for everyone including homosexuals...Under those semantic questions there is another essential question wether or not the society consider that heterosexuality and homosexuality are equivalent!
I DON’T THINK SO
“The California Assembly approved the plan 43-26 and the Senate 22-13, with both votes along party lines of Democrats supporting the homosexual agenda.”
To me this is Proof Positive of the Marxist bent of todays Democrat Party. I have been convinced for considerable time that the Socialist Party has hijacked the Democrat Party, and in the guise of the RINO is currently infiltrating the Republican Party with the same intent.
There should be the salutation of “Comrade” prior to the name of the member rather than “Senator”, or “Congressman”.
We have got to take our country back, folks. One way or another, we have got to take it back.
I have no problem with people being gay. And I wouldn’t for the life of me classify it together with degeneracy or promiscuïty. We’re talking different mindsets here.
1. Birth defect
2. Mental illness
3. Choice
4. All of the above or a combination thereof
Pick one
Was Freudian psychoanalytic theory of sexual stages in psychological development more accurate than accredited?
The Michael Jackson Complex is fixation on mutilation of and deviance with human anatomy in the media. It is a social psychosis catering to the lowest common denominator and generated with Pavlovian behavioral conditioning in popular culture.
Should we really be canonizing special societal privileges in the law based on idolatrous fetishes?
Disability, welfare, Social Security, etc., etc., ad nausea...
The social psychosis generated by behavioral conditioning (Pavlov's salivating dogs) in the popular culture and the conditioned response to accept the false premises of mental illness or birth defect will be used as a political tool to systematically rob the public purse.
Then, we could have other self-inflicted mental illness and disease (aside from those we already do) subsidized by the government consolidating an ever increasing portion of the economy in the hands of the cultural Marxists.
Genesis ruins the illogical and non-biological arguments of homosexual monogamy. In a secular sense, homosexuality is an idolatry of perversion. It is in no way an anatomical function of the human organism, but a phantasmagoric creation from within the mentally disturbed human mind, a social psychosis, naked and on full exhibitionist display.
This is the whole crux (pun intended) of their attack on creationism - - they are really frustrated by Genesis, but cannot destroy the axiomatic state of procreant human biology, it does not fit their religious agenda.
Homosexual monogamy advocates seek ceremonious sanctification of their anatomical perversions and esoteric absolution for their guilt-ridden, impoverished egos.
Neither of those will satisfy their universal dissatisfaction with mortality or connect them to something eternal. With pantheons of fantasies as their medium of infinitization, they still have nothing in them of reality, any more than there is in the things that seem to stand before us in a dream.
Homosexual deviancy is really a pagan practice (and a self-induced social psychosis) at war with the Judaic culture over what is written in the book of Genesis (1:27, 2:18).
This is exactly what the National Socialists were at war with... so, when someone uses the term "Gaystapo," they might not realize how close to the truth they really are.
Many will seek ceremonious sanctification and esoteric absolution in some type of marriage rite, but that still fails to give them a connection to the eternal in both a religious and temporal, procreant sense - - the union does not produce offspring.
Dissatisfaction with inevitable mortality only feeds the impoverishment of the ego further. Homosexuals really hate human life; their whole desire is rooted in the destruction of it...
And the liberals can’t understand why some Muslims HATE us.
Unfortunately, not until something untoward or bad happens to their child. And even then, will they understand it? And will they fight?
” . . . different mindsets . . .(!)
The “different mindset” of sodomy is described in Romans 1:18-32. It is a mindset that will always, always, always force itself upon others, and encroach into every institution, and seek to undermine and destroy every other mindset. They will never be satisfied until they they have sodomized your children and mine with impunity.
I do believe it is degenerate and dangerous. I have a B I G problem with people being sodomites.
So to commemorate homos are they going to have them perform sex acts in front of the children or what? How do you commemorate queers?
Apollo 13 stated: “And I wouldn’t for the life of me classify it together with degeneracy or promiscuïty.”
I would, as this excerpted statement by “Always Right”: “More than half say they have had more than 20 partners, with more than 10 percent saying they had over 300 partners.” has been documented. I’ve read this same information in the past.
It appears that there is more than simple semantics in the terms “gay” and “homosexual” the former having been recognized as “sexual addiction” which has been described as “degenerative”, and “promiscuitous”, the latter being the descriptive of true anomaly.
Regardless there is nothing of this to celebrate, much less teach our children.
This is a politically motivated action of the Socialist agenda. Part of a larger scheme to break apart our Society in line with the Marxist/Communist agenda, and WE need to elect Representation that will provide the leadership to stop this aggression by the Leftists immediately.
Sounds as though you have delved rather deeply into this sordid phenomenon of life.
What are your thoughts, or findings on say bestiality?
As is pedophilia, adultery, incest and whole host of other moral degeneracies. Any government that would promote school children celebrating such has no concern for children at all. Rather it is an attempt to normalize something they know deep inside is fundamentally wrong.
I agree. Homosexuality is sexual perversion.
Save the culture, save America, one mind at a time. The discomfort of withdrawal is temporary. You can do it.
Just say NO to public school.
But what are saying and doing the churchs and christians???
“Until something bad happens to their children”?But it is something really bad...
I try to see it in the way it presents itself to me. I did no delve into it in any personal way, but I do know homosexuals, and one is a dear friend. He lives in a stable and trustful relationship. Alas, the latter predicate cannot be given to many, many heterosexual relationships in our days. Given the divorce rates in the Western world, it’s pretty hard to maintain that the heterosexual bond for life works so well (although that is not the same as saying: we should not aspire to this bonding, I admit).
I wouldn’t call homosexuality ‘sordid’, or ‘a bestiality’. I try to be so modest as not qualify anything that I don’t understand myself in such negative terms.
I am religious. But that does not mean that I take the Bible literally, or as the very last word on each and any subject. Here I am firmly with the (religious) philosopher Imanuel Kant: in the last instance, your conscience must be your guide.
I sincerely hope I could clarify my position for you.
Allow me to do it for you then.
Pedophilia and incest are crimes (when applying to minors). Adultery is bad, but not criminal. It’s a matter of the heart; and although I condemn it and for me it’d be the cause of cessation of a friendship in theory, I can only say: it occurs, it’s bad, and well, end of story.
Homosexuality is not a crime and it happens between consenting adults. Who am I to judge it?
Sometimes, being humble and modest is the best policy.
You are allowed to do so, of course. We are lucky to live in a free world.
Would it not be better for children to learn about love for all rather than sexually specific love only?
I think a truly balanced life which can be taught during the very early years is love for others - children flourish on it and it seems a healthier adaptation rather than the singular love in choice of sexual partners.
All of us will find love of others in varying degrees - and I am not referring to sexual love - but that wonderful knowledge that you feel so deeply for another human, you are connected and wish to bring joy and happines and even share the bad times knowing you are cared about and care for another.
With a baseball bat?
I wonder how many parents will keep their kids home that day? I certainly would! (But in retrospect, I guess I would never have my kids in the California public school system to begin with)
I've seen that many parents with kids in the schools, hear what is coming down. They hear what is being taught. You'd think they'd be proactive. But, IME, they become reactive when it happens to them personally. Then, I've also seen parents, who when the bad thing has happened, goes blithely along with what recommendations the educrats make for their child.
Still, it is important for parents to know in advance. Here, the gay lobby is telling parents exactly what is coming down. When parents don't object, the gay lobby interprets that as tacit approval by the parents.
Then in the classroom, and the child brings home the "literature", the parent goes ballistic. And then gets really upset that the educrats aren't taking this seriously.
Well? The parents were told in advance.
If parents in CA have kids in k-12, and they object; they should pull their children NOW, before the schools get a single dime. That's responsible parenting.
If the parents have no objection to the gay agenda in the schools, then obviously, there's no "problem."
Yes, over time, the schools will be "gay schools". Publically funded gay schools. And certainly patriots and Christians will/are screaming to beat the band.
And why should now, in re persecution, be any different than it was in Biblical times?
The schools make money sexualizing children. And they have for as long as I've been in CA.
” Adultery is bad, but not criminal “
THOU SHALT NOT COVET THY NEIGHBOR’S WIFE ...or , I assume husband ...
” More than half say they have had more than 20 partners, with more than 10 percent saying they had over 300 partners “
Wonder what the %s of heterolsexuals in the NBA/NFL would be ?
I seem to recall Wilt Chamberlain saying he had 1000s of women ...and I believe him . Heteros are just as guilty of promiscuity , and being single doesn’t OK it with God .
Well said, I must say... I do agree..a lot of “food for thought”...Christian Counseling, in love, will bring out the truth of what “death-wish” behavior will do to destroy human life and the civilizations of God’s creation.
“Oh my God! Have mercy on our souls.”
Rather it would seem that not to "classify it together with degeneracy or promiscuïty" to be a lack of conscience together with a nonexistant moral compass.
A thief is, afterall, a thief. The reasons for their stealing may be many and varied. In the end they are still thieves.
You may not wish to judge them, as they have not taken from you.
I judge them because they have taken from us all.
And yes ... you have clarified you position.
You are correct when you say it is matter of the heart. All of these things are fruits of the same tree and are ultimately destructive.
Homosexuality WAS a crime until these people began agitating to have it overturned by sympathetic judges against the will of the majority.
Yeah its “cute” to see 2 guys playing at a relationship or 2 women for that matter. But it strikes me as watching children playing dress-up, in a lighter vein and Satanists mocking Mass with their Black Mass in a darker sense.
Personally, I don’t care if their lives are fulfilled: they lost the cosmic dice roll, for whatever reason[nature or nurture]. Should they be “punished” for it? No.
But neither should they be told they are just as normal as everyone else and their disability is certainly not a cause for “celebration”.
As for your contention of a steady 5% population, there is approximately a 2% population of schizophrenics[more or less]. I don’t recall anyone claiming we should celebrate that or call it normal. Alcoholism is a disease that affects a large swath of the population. We don’t encourage kids to drink nor to “celebrate” alcoholic families, whom we label as at best, dysfunctional.
Glad I don’t live in Kallifornistan. Those people have gone crazy.
Let's pretend to be Gay Muslims.
(Why Johnny can't read? His teacher is illiterate.
Cheers!
Ultimately, statistics of monogamy, promiscuity in heterosexuals vs homosexuals are unconvincing when people will always suspect the legitimacy of the source. Until people return to a trust in the wisdom of God rather than the oft-changing "wisdom" of man, these cultural "slouches toward Gomorrah" will continue.
Forgivable true. Yet the horrendous fact is that homosexuals are at the extreme end of God’s pasture. These lost souls are profoundly HARDENED into their misguided queer identity. As they refuse to repent of their sinful nature, they seek to change the world.
These are wolves who act like pigs.
It seems so long ago, schools used to celebrate good moral choices and actions.
The people of Sodom and Gomorrah can look at California today and say to God, “Not fair!”
I realize that no one can legitimately complain to God but, hey, the Sodomites were rebellious to start with.
Agreed, I think Apollo 13 has called it right.
Look for it, you'll see it everywhere: I know God says "this", but we know that "that" is actually true/right.
All subhumans hate us.
What NO child Rape or Kiddie Porn in the list??? the Rats are slipping there.
Much appreciated, thanks -
as I pointed out earlier, I can’t pretend to be sitting on God’s chair and be able to draw an absolute line between good and evil.
I respect the Bible, but don’t take it in its literal sense. It was written by human beings, in times hugely different from ours. Yes, the Bible has it that homosexual practises are an abomination in the eye of God. But the book also has it that the sun stood still for nigh on 48 hours to allow Joshua to destroy Jericho. For long centuries, the Church took this quotation to prove that the sun revolves around the earth. The Church even was willing to burn people who taught otherwise alive at the stake.
Which, to this observer, is by now not only criminal but also entirely obsolete and proven to be untrue.
I believe we all are trying to find our ways in a reality that is dark and unknown for a large part. The progress that humanity makes is very, very slow.
For me personally, describing homosexuals, or their ways of living, as evil, is not the route we should be taking. But other people may think otherwise.
All this is not to say that I can empathize with gays wholly. I don’t share their effeminate behavior (as gay men often display); nor do I share their love for permanent irony, their disposition to wave away the earnest topics of life, or their ‘precious’ obsessions with camp and trivia. So no, I don’t think that I would blossom as a human being in completely gay surroundings.
That’s about it, I guess, but if more replies trickle in, I’ll try to answer them seriously. The issue deserves that.
People with no standards of behavior always despise those who have them.
Without saying so, those who live by standards are “telling” those without standards that the standardless are less righteous.
Look how folks despised and jeered Noah. All he was doing was building a big box/boat on his own property with his own materials. Others despised him because he was “stating” that he would be saved from judgement and they would not.
Oh, it’s not called “child rape” anymore, that’s a politically incorrect term.
It’s called “adult-child sex”. I’m not kidding. The same way the APA reclassified SSAD (same sex attraction disorder) to NOT be a “disorder”, they’re workign on reclassifying child rape.
MSM (homosexuals) experience the greatest burden of HIV/AIDS among adult males. From 2001 through 2004, the estimated number of HIV/AIDS cases increased among men who have sex with men (MSM). In contrast the estimated number of HIV/AIDS cases decreased among drug injection users (IDU), MSM who were also IDU, and heterosexuals. MSM (65%) and males exposed through heterosexual contact (16%) accounted for approximately 80% of all HIV/AIDS cases diagnosed in 2004 (Figure 5). - CDC - Health Disparities in HIV/AIDS
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