So was Ivins a direct colleague of Hatfill ?? Who was giving the press all the info on Hatfill? Was it Ivins?
Anyway, certainly glad he killed himself, saves us a lot of trouble to reach the same result.
Authorities seized a copy of “’The Plague” by Albert Camus.’”
Other story developing says he warned before the attacks that Bin Laden had anthrax. I bet he learned that tippy-top secret info from the news which was warning of “assymetrical” follow up attacks. And the “cropduster” news, maybe too.
Videocassettes? In the age of DVD?
"Family" photos?
information about "guns".
And a copy of a fictional book that students are sometimes required to read.
Reminds me of the disclosure that a "cyanide poisoning document" was seized in the FLDS raid.
Is that legal? If it is marked as privileged information?
Huh? Who is this postal worker? How does he know the unnamed co-worker who supposedly told him these things?
Fed’s try to bribe alleged suspect’s children to turn against him.
‘The officials defended the tactics used in the Ivins investigation, rejecting complaints he made to a colleague about what he considered to be the aggressive questioning of his two children, who are both 24.
One official said the questioning, which reportedly included pressuring Ivins’ children to turn on their father, involved “appropriate” techniques.
According to news media reports, FBI agents showed Ivins’ daughter pictures of the victims and said, “Your father did this.” They told his son he could collect the $2.5 million reward, plus a sports car of his choice.’
I would consider any activity like this illegal.
Not only a government agency involved in bribery to gain judicial judgment
and conviction, but also it’s clearly punishing a person without a judgment
of guilt by conviction in open court.
I further find it quite disturbing, because I too have had family and other
social contacts destroyed over the last 6 years with similar tactics.
Imagine my surprise when my own sister and her husband wanted to know,
“exactly just what they had to do to get their house paid off?” ($100,000)
Like they we’re about to win a game show or something.
And the subsequently try to explain to me that it would be best if I left my
laptop computer with them, and that “Sometimes, It’s too big of a job for the
Public to know what’s best.” (In regard to their own governance). It wouldn’t
have been so offensive if they hadn’t been so adamant in their out of
character performance.
With in the same week, at the residential structure I was remodeling, the
home owner, out of the blue, wanted to know, “exactly what he could do
to get a million dollars?”
I said, “I don’t know? ...Maybe you could tell me.”
What you people should be aware of, We’ve got some seriously fukced up
sh!t being perpetrated against people in our country do to their political views,
or peace activities.
And the tactics being employed to silence those people are far more egregious
than a casual brush of their 1st Amendment Constitutional Rights.
There is a serious subversion of entire law enforcement community in the
name of security. If you don’t speak out against these type of abuses collectively,
you resign yourself to self-imposed 2nd class citizenry.
I would consider any evidence gathered in the Bruce Ivin’s matter as highly
suspect of having any judicial integrity.
- Tracy Mapes
bttt
INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY
He may. or may not, be guilty - his guilt hasn’t legally been proven in an unbiased trial. In fact, no charges were actually filed against him.
It has been 7 years since the event and the Feds would really like to pin this on someone.
Commiting suicide isn’t proof one way or the other.
Did he commit suicide? Why? Because of guilt or because he was paranoid or because the pressure of being under suspicion was too much?
We will never know.
Its much easier to acuse and publically convict a dead man - especially with the assistance of the media.
He won’t be the first man convicted in the media but not in court.
The stories about Ivins character and conduct certainly give rise to suspicions.
But that would be be the case if they were true or exaggerations planted for that purpose.
If the stories of his questionable behavior, unbalanced mental state and suspicious conduct are true why was he employed in such a sensative position? Why was his employment not terminated? Why has it taken 7 years to decide he is guilty?
Especially since much of that 7 years was spent trying to prove Hatfill, not Ivins, was the guilty party and then fighting his claims of innocence.
The Feds were sure it was Hatfill, now they are equally sure it is Ivins - only Ivins can’t can’t deny it as Hatfill did.
Remember Richard Jewell and the Duke Lacrosse team?
After they destroyed Jewel and Hatfill reputation, botched defending this country and have demonstrated they are as incompetent keystone cops, believing anything these overpaid morons have to say is going to require a ton of stupidity and even more gullibility!
At first, I thought I did not know Dr. Ivins. Imagine my shock when I was looking at CNN (in a waiting room; I’d never watch that on purpose) and saw his picture, and realized that he’s the friendly guy who would always say hello when he saw me at work or at the gym.
I will just say that there is nothing really suspicious about working in a lab during non-business hours. Scientific research does not typical fit into a convenient 9 to 5 schedule; researcher’s schedules revolve around experiment time tables, and there is nothing unusual about being in the lab late at night or on weekends.
I am, to use the words of Tom Daschle, deeply saddened. Except that I sincerely mean the words. May God comfort his family.
Did he have in his possession aerolized (sic) anthrax? Note what is not said. They should be ashamed of themselves.
His “suspicious” email: “Bin Laden terrorists or sure lave anthrax and sarin gas” and have “just
decreed death to ail Jews and all Americans,” language similar to the anthrax letters warning
“WE HAVE THIS ANTHRAX . . . DEATH TO AMERICA . . . DEATH TO ISRAEL.” In his
affidavit dated October 3 1,2007, submitted in support of an initial search of the residence and
vehicles of Bruce Edwards Ivins, Supervisory Postal Inspector Thomas F. Delafera described in
greater detail information regarding Bruce Edwards Ivins, and his probable connection to the
anthrax mailings.