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Barack Obama`s 10 Point Plan to "Change" The Second Amendment
NRA ILA ^ | 28 July, 2008 | Wayne LaPierre

Posted on 07/31/2008 4:41:40 AM PDT by marktwain

For the Brady Campaign, Violence Policy Center, Dianne Feinstein, Chuck Schumer, U.N. gun-ban extremist Rebecca Peters and her globalist billionaire sugar-daddy George Soros, for New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg and his horde of big-city politicians—in fact, for all those individuals and organizations who would harm or destroy our Second Amendment rights—Barack Obama’s mantra of “change” means their agenda will be harnessed to the total power of an aggressive, activist and radical federal government.

“Change” means gun owners will be under siege like never before.

Especially for NRA members who fought through the never-ending threats of the Clinton-Gore administration, the understanding of “change” must be the driving force for us to get other gun owners to the polls. This election is critically important. We cannot afford to have any friend of the Second Amendment sit it out, regardless of the reason.

We all know gun owners who are disillusioned with politics. Those influenced by talk of four years of “progressives” in power coalescing a united conservative movement must be reminded that this November, we are not just electing a president, we are electing an entire government.

With Obama’s emphasis on grassroots organizing, his administration will be a government redesigned and realigned to stay in power. It will be a government converted into a political machine. And with a so-called “progressive” majority in both houses of Congress, there will be little to stop that power shift.

When Obama talks about “change,” the gun-banners at the Violence Policy Center and the Brady Campaign know exactly what change they want—inside power. And they’ll likely get it.

Michelle Obama, in a politically charged college campaign speech in California, defined her husband’s meaning of “change”:

“Barack Obama ... is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your division. That you come out of your isolation. That you move out of your comfort zones ... Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual ...”.

As NRA members, this statement doesn’t bode well for our future. Our “lives as usual” means the daily exercise of our freedom.

And what of “cynicism”? It is the very basis of Americans’ long history of questioning government power and its abuse. It is the basis of challenging dissembling politicians. Cynicism is the key to seeing through politicians like Obama and Hillary Clinton, who falsely wrap themselves in the Second Amendment while espousing dangerous programs for civil disarmament.

And “division”? As NRA members, our “division” from the likes of Obama means we stand together and fight every day against those who would destroy the bedrock principles that have made our country the freest in the world. Divisiveness is the basis of our democratic institutions. Division based on principle is a noble thing.

“Comfort zone”? What about the life, liberty and pursuit of happiness guaranteed by the Declaration of Independence? That is the real “comfort zone” of all Americans. We are the only nation on earth built on the principle of “pursuit of happiness.” That means we do not serve government; it serves us.

The “change” Obama and his close allies—like George Soros’ Moveon.org —seek is a complete regime change driven by a radical political agenda. For the nation’s gun owners, “change” will take the form of many steps back to the bad old days of the Clinton-Gore years or the Jimmy Carter years, when bureaucrats in a dozen agencies were relentless in their schemes to press a hostile presidential agenda against gun ownership.

For gun owners, “change” could well mean an erosion of hard-fought reforms and hard-fought protections we have secured over the years. Those reforms represent battles won by gun owners led by NRA since the founding of the Institute for Legislative Action in 1975.

“Change” means removing the restrictions we secured against the Consumer Product Safety Commission from exercising a bureaucratic ban on firearms or ammunition based on phony “consumer hazard” criteria. This is something the Brady Campaign and the Violence Policy Center have vainly sought for years.

... we are not just electing a president, we are electing an entire government

“Change” means ignoring the strictures imposed on federal gun-control enforcement by Congress, like preventing “firearms trace data” from being delivered into the hands of big-city lawyers to fuel punitive lawsuits to strangle the lawful firearms industry. This is New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s dream, and it is the “change” demanded by his gun-ban axis of urban politicians.

“Change” means an effort to erase all of the reforms of federal gun laws created when Congress enacted the Firearms Owners’ Protection Act of 1986. That law ended a reign of terror by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms that, for gun owners and civil libertarians, was the shameful hallmark of the Jimmy Carter presidency.

“Change” means that federal lawyers from multiple agencies with unlimited taxpayer funding will find “creative” ways to bring elements of the law-abiding firearm industry to court, circumventing the restrictions of the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Firearms Act. As a freshman U.S. senator from Illinois, Obama voted against that law, which was designed to end punitive lawsuits claiming firearm industry liability based on totally unrelated acts of armed, violent criminals.

For those who don’t remember, in the waning days of the Bill Clinton presidency, the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), along with the U.S. Department of Justice, used the threat of scores of separate lawsuits in many federal venues by city housing authorities to extort a supposedly “voluntary” gun-control agreement from firearm manufacturers. If Obama becomes president, you can bet the farm that bureaucrats will once again use these threats to obtain strictures that Congress would never enact.

In fact, among key advisors chosen by Obama to vet possible running mates is Eric Holder, who was Attorney General Janet Reno’s top deputy. Holder, as the Justice Department point man on all gun-control schemes, was among the top officials announcing the Clinton-Gore extortion agreement in 2000.


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1 posted on 07/31/2008 4:41:41 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

2 posted on 07/31/2008 4:44:37 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Five Year Plans and New Deals, wrapped in golden chains...)
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To: marktwain

The names Feinstein and Schumer should send a shiver up the back of any gun owner at any time. Add Obama to that and watch the rape of our Second Amendment rights. If you’re not a NRA member you should be.


3 posted on 07/31/2008 4:51:49 AM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: marktwain
“Barack Obama ... is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your division. That you come out of your isolation. That you move out of your comfort zones ... Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual ...”

I know that Michelle Obama is a hateful witch, but I am stunned that she actually said this. This sounds like a direct threat more than anything else.

Just who in the hell to these people think they are? How can any sane person know about these things and still support this wannabe dictator? As each day passes, and more is learned about Obama, it is becoming clear that him winning the presidency would be an unmitigated disaster for this country. God help us.

4 posted on 07/31/2008 5:00:09 AM PDT by frankiep (Every socialist is a disguised dictator - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: marktwain

If this crap ever goes down, there will be a second armed revolution in this country....and it won’t be against the British. Guaranteed !!!


5 posted on 07/31/2008 5:00:52 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: frankiep

The fascists let their masks slip once in a while when they think that everyone around them agrees with them.

That quote needs to be front and center; it needs to be in a television ad with someone commenting on every “demand”, “require”, and “never allow”.

Fascist witch. And don’t tell me that Barry disagrees with her.


6 posted on 07/31/2008 5:10:57 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: From The Deer Stand

Gun control advocates should be forced to undergo the following scenario:

They’re in a room, with a firearm in a condition that they would have everyone have theirs in, or without any protection if that’s what they advocate.

A 300 pound thug then comes into the room, and beats on them while they attempt to assemble/unlock their firearm or call 911 and wait for the police to arrive.


7 posted on 07/31/2008 5:13:27 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: GoldenPup
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒE
8 posted on 07/31/2008 5:15:07 AM PDT by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: Fresh Wind

Only the last one wrorries me, The others will backfire and democrats know it and are terrified of what happened in 94


10 posted on 07/31/2008 5:20:12 AM PDT by sickoflibs (We cant win elections (with illegal's votes) by out-welfaring Democrats)
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To: marktwain
"Barack Obama ... is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your division. That you come out of your isolation. That you move out of your comfort zones ... Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual ...”.

Translation: "You vill bent to ze vill of ze fuhrer, or you vill be sent to a re-education camp. Resistance is futile."

Mild sarcasm aside, this is what she means. These are scary people and Michelle's thesis from Princeton clearly indicates that she is a burning racist who has never been able to move beyond her own reflection in the mirror. Apparently, the "re-education camp" that SHE has been attending to try to soften her hardline image didn't work.

The more I see and hear of these people, the more I hope that HitLIARy will be able to pull off a coup at the convention and walk away with the Democrat Party nomination. She is defeatable and manageable. Obama is too, but too many people still don't see the man behind the curtain when they listen to him speak.

11 posted on 07/31/2008 5:21:11 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: GoldenPup
The only way this crap could go down is if Obama gets elected. If every person who is pro-second amendment and pro-life votes against him he doesn't stand a chance. My question is, why would anyone who is pro-second amendment or pro-life vote for him? Are they that stupid? Maybe I just answered my own question...
12 posted on 07/31/2008 5:21:16 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: G.Mason

13 posted on 07/31/2008 5:26:06 AM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: G.Mason
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒE

Damn right.

14 posted on 07/31/2008 5:32:31 AM PDT by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: marktwain

Hitler was big on gun control, wasn’t he?


15 posted on 07/31/2008 5:45:11 AM PDT by rock_lobsta (Not Your Ordinary Crustacean.)
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To: Fresh Wind

He who campaigns by constantly harping on “CHANGE” should be granted change. Let’s change him back to a community organizer. Change his bank account back to what he is worth. Change all the fawning adulation back to the contempt of which he is worthy. Change his jackass eating briars grin to an abject look of dismay and misery.


16 posted on 07/31/2008 5:52:14 AM PDT by RipSawyer (What's black and white and red all over? Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: GoldenPup

“If this crap ever goes down, there will be a second armed revolution in this country....”

After Katrina, thuggish cops went around in groups and seized guns from the homes of honest citizens while looters went basically unchallenged. Not one gun was pried from cold, dead hands. The police force was overwhelming. I would recommend an off-site stash.


17 posted on 07/31/2008 6:02:58 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: marktwain
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18 posted on 07/31/2008 6:07:16 AM PDT by Pistolshot (NO B.O.)
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To: GoldenPup

“...there will be a second armed revolution in this country....and it won’t be against the British.”

Things get muddied after a couple hundred years. Our first armed rebellion was against OUR GOVERNMENT, because of its ever-increasing tyranny!
(We WERE British!)


19 posted on 07/31/2008 6:12:42 AM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( The Constitution needs No interpreting, only APPLICATION!)
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To: marktwain
"“Change” means an effort to erase all of the reforms of federal gun laws created when Congress enacted the Firearms Owners’ Protection Act of 1986. That law ended a reign of terror by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms that, for gun owners and civil libertarians, was the shameful hallmark of the Jimmy Carter presidency."

Maybe I'm misreading something here. Does this part of the article mean that the NRA is in favor of the 86 machine gun ban? I don't know what else that bill has in it, but I can't believe that the NRA supports banning a whole class of weapons???? Someone help me out here???
20 posted on 07/31/2008 6:16:20 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: MrB

I always thought gun control advocates should be bold enough to put a large sign on their front lawn that states, “There are no guns in this house.”


21 posted on 07/31/2008 6:26:12 AM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: marktwain

Has not Obama forgotten that the Second Admendment question has been “settled” not that long ago by the Supremes.


22 posted on 07/31/2008 6:42:25 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^==^..^=)
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To: Biggirl

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23 posted on 07/31/2008 6:44:03 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^==^..^=)
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To: MrB

That b!tch controls osamabama.

LLS


24 posted on 07/31/2008 6:44:29 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (REAGANISM... NOT communism!!!)
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To: Fresh Wind

Interesting allegation, but what is the source? Imputing such intentions without confirmation is not viable political discourse.


25 posted on 07/31/2008 6:58:00 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The average piece of junk is more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. - Ratatouille)
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To: wolfcreek

That “Come And Take It” flag is evidence, contrary to what many allegedly pro-RKBA people claim, that the Founding Fathers intended the 2ndA to include much more than man-portable single-user small arms.


26 posted on 07/31/2008 6:59:27 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The average piece of junk is more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. - Ratatouille)
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To: Fresh Wind

27 posted on 07/31/2008 7:02:27 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

FOPA ‘86 did a great deal to protect RKBA. Unfortunately, the Hughes Amendment (aka 922(o)) was added as a “poison pill” to either kill the bill or kill MG ownership; given the options and political realities, the NRA opted for the latter. Sometimes choosing the best option means accepting the lesser of two evils. Some theorized that accepting the MG ban was tolerable because it could so easily be overturned in court shortly thereafter; unfortunately, it was never suitably challenged and turned into a social “third rail” issue.


28 posted on 07/31/2008 7:03:59 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The average piece of junk is more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. - Ratatouille)
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To: bk1000

The confiscations also came to an abrupt halt when it was made clear, behind the scenes, that many of the police departments involved in Katrina recovery were not going to let such atrocities continue.


29 posted on 07/31/2008 7:06:49 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The average piece of junk is more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. - Ratatouille)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
“Maybe I'm misreading something here. Does this part of the article mean that the NRA is in favor of the 86 machine gun ban? I don't know what else that bill has in it, but I can't believe that the NRA supports banning a whole class of weapons???? Someone help me out here???”


The 1986 machinegun ban was added to the GOPA by a shady voice vote engineered by the infamous “Tip” O’Neal after the reforms had been forced through by the NRA. I have tape of it somewhere, I watched it on CSPAN. It was truly disgraceful. If there ever was a horrific abuse of parliamentary procedure, this was it.

30 posted on 07/31/2008 7:06:56 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain; ctdonath2

Thanks for the info guys...


31 posted on 07/31/2008 7:09:10 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: marktwain
Does anyone on FR remember seeing the “Left Behind” series on video? I know it had had some faults when compared with Scripture, however the storyline is a real thought provoker. What keeps going over and over in my mind is the character playing the Antichrist.

It's been a long time and my memory is not what it used to be, however, I recall the Antichrist in the “Left Behind” series being very much like Obama - his personal charm, manipulation of people, speech patterns, etc.

Is there anyone out there who recalls what I describe? It is scary. I'm thinking of finding another copy and reviewing it to see if my recollection is on target.

32 posted on 07/31/2008 7:15:32 AM PDT by elpadre (nation)
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To: SIDENET

Yes We must all pull together and protect our God given rights! http://my.att.net/p/PWP-freedomfirst


33 posted on 07/31/2008 7:23:03 AM PDT by mikebeam
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To: marktwain

Hold your nose. Vote for McCain.

Can I get a bumper sticker with that message?


34 posted on 07/31/2008 7:26:19 AM PDT by chesley ( Ya can't make chick'n dumplin's outta chick'n feathers!!)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ..
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
35 posted on 07/31/2008 8:11:24 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: marktwain

These totalitarian bastards just never quit, do they?


36 posted on 07/31/2008 8:11:50 AM PDT by Gritty (Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual - Michelle Obama)
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To: frankiep
I know that Michelle Obama is a hateful witch, but I am stunned that she actually said this. This sounds like a direct threat more than anything else.

What terrifies me is the fact that I know a couple of lovely, smart, sane people who think that what she said was just ducky.
37 posted on 07/31/2008 8:17:34 AM PDT by Mariebl
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To: Gritty
“These totalitarian bastards just never quit, do they?”


Yes, they do quit, and sometimes even get converted. David Horowitz was pretty high up in leftist circles when he had is “road to damascus” moment and became a conservative.

Mike Royco was a staunchly anti-gun for most of his career, but became a fan of the 2nd Amendment just a few years before he died.

Al Capp became disenchanted with liberalism, and the cartoon strip “Lil’ Abner” started having conservative themes late in his career.

Still, “The price of liberty is eternal vigilance” is as true as it ever was.

38 posted on 07/31/2008 8:23:39 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: MrB

“That’s not the Michele I knew...”


39 posted on 07/31/2008 8:27:33 AM PDT by Noumenon (Time for Atlas to shrug - and pick up a gun.)
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To: Fresh Wind

For Obama,

The Gun is Civilization
by Marko Kloos of the
Munchkin Wrangler blog

Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that’s it.

In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.

When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force.

The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.

There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we’d be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a [armed] mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger’s potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat—it has no validity when most of a mugger’s potential marks are armed.

People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that’s the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.

Then there’s the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser.

People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don’t constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level.

The gun is the only weapon that’s as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn’t work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn’t both lethal and easily employable.

When I carry a gun, I don’t do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I’m looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don’t carry it because I’m afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn’t limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation...and that’s why carrying a gun is a civilized act.

So the greatest civilization is one where all citizens are equally armed and can only be persuaded, never forced.


40 posted on 07/31/2008 9:15:19 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: bk1000

What so you think about fighting back?


41 posted on 07/31/2008 9:17:16 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: Fresh Wind

Swiped for emailing.


42 posted on 07/31/2008 9:18:39 AM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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To: marktwain

Wayne LaPierre,

If the NRA’s poster, http://www.nraila.org/images/obamachange.jpg is representative of the truth and not just some political trash Obama type “Change” means there is going to be a lot of blood spilt in American government offices as defenders of the Constitution once again take charge..


43 posted on 07/31/2008 9:23:40 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: chesley

Good luck getting the so called ‘purists’ to go along with that. They would rather have Hitler, Stalin, or Pol Pot elected president of this country because, according to them, it will surely mean that for the next election we will be blessed with the second coming of Ronald Reagan and the rebirth of the conservative movement. Never mind that in the meanwhile this country will become unrecognizable and so far gone that any attempt to restore our liberties will take decades.
The way I see it, anyone who is so naive to think that a McCain presidency would be just as bad as an Obama one is certifiably insane, and anyone actually hoping for an Obama presidency for the reasons I stated above is living in fantasy world.


44 posted on 07/31/2008 9:26:36 AM PDT by frankiep (Every socialist is a disguised dictator - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: Biggirl

You seem to be of the impression that Obama gives a hoot about what the Constitution says. You would be very mistaken . Obama lusts for power & with the aid of the Democrats in Congress this nation will in fact be changed into a fascist police state.


45 posted on 07/31/2008 9:27:37 AM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: B4Ranch

“What so you think about fighting back?”

I’d like to think I would fight, but when I saw the video I realized it was hopeless. The police used overwhelming force with no warning. If you resisted you WOULD have been killed. Perhaps better to lose a battle and live to fight another day?


46 posted on 07/31/2008 9:29:19 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: bk1000

Most of America is not like New Orleans. The good and decent citizens of New Orleans were overwhelmed by a terrible storm as well as by bad government and the free-range criminal element that supports it. Most American communities are thankfully not dominated by drunken layabouts on welfare or hopelessly corrupt public officials, and I promise you: any Federal attempt to confiscate our guns will be met with armed resistance.


47 posted on 07/31/2008 9:39:59 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves.)
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To: marktwain

48 posted on 07/31/2008 9:53:21 AM PDT by TNPatriot (No arsenal ... is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. -RR)
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To: bk1000
I think we need to start asking our friends and acquaintances what they think about fighting back. We may just find there's more than we know who would fight back if they could get someone to cover their flanks.
49 posted on 07/31/2008 10:09:45 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: Biggirl
The Second Amendment simply says to the liberal establishment, “YOU ARE NOT THE FINAL AUTHORIY.”

They is why they will eliminate it.

50 posted on 07/31/2008 10:12:47 AM PDT by oyez (Justa' another high minded lowlife.)
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