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Obama: Success is Failure, Victory is Defeat! (vanity)
07-30-2008 | STE=Q

Posted on 07/30/2008 6:31:30 PM PDT by STE=Q

Some of you may have been surprised that even after visiting Iraq Obama still talks about our accomplishments there in somewhat disparaging terms.

As senator McCain aptly put it:

“Senator Obama said that the strategy of the surge would not succeed. He said it was doomed to fail. He said there would be an increase in sectarian violence. He still, to this day, has said that the surge is not succeeding.”

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/mccain-keeps-up-iraq-attack-on-obama/

A very critical linchpin in Obama’s political platform has been his unequivocal opposition to the invasion of Iraq -- pejoratively referred to by the left as “Bush ’s war.”

Obama has portrayed himself as the proverbial voice crying in the wilderness.

Indeed, even Hillary Clinton was denigrated for her support of President Bush after the September 11th 2001 terrorists attacks on the World Trade Center in New York. ( Hillary approved S. J. Res. 45, A Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq )

In his 2002 Speech Against the Iraq War, Obama says:

http://usliberals.about.com/od/extraordinaryspeeches/a/Obama2002War.htm

“I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences.”

Obama’s message is very clear:

That even if the war in Iraq is successful (1) It‘s not worth our time. (2) It‘s not worth our money. (3) It‘s not worth putting up with the inevitable ‘undetermined’ consequences.

In Obama’s world view, even if our military in Iraq is successful, it’s still a failure!

According to Obama the war never should have happened.

But the reality is, it DID happen… and now all but the most dense know we are winning in Iraq.

The terrorist are on the run and it now appears to most observers that “Bush’s War” is proving a success.

Still Obama refuses to acknowledge victory.

Why is that?

Obama recently wrote (July 14th 2008) in his opted at the New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/14/opinion/14obama.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

“The differences on Iraq in this campaign are deep. Unlike Senator John McCain, I opposed the war in Iraq before it began, and would end it as president”

Obama clearly states that he opposed the war before it began.

He is not alone.

On October 18, 2003 Arabic satellite television (Al Jazeera) reported that they were in possession of an audio tape with a message from bin Laden, sent to Arabic satellite television “advising” U.S. forces to leave Iraq.

President Bush begs to differ with bin Laden and holds the course in Iraq.

“In the same message bin Laden vows “to carry out more September 11-style suicide attacks against US interests.”

Almost five years later Al-Qaeda, along with bin Laden, are on the run.

America has been secure from attack at home.

When Americans think of war they think of places far, far, away from their everyday life.

Thanks to “Bush’s war” we have taken the fight to our enemy -- rather than the other way around.

With the specter of a nuclear armed Iran looming on the horizon I’m satisfied that we now have a foothold in Iraq.

We are now in a better position to “negotiate” with Iran and other potential enemies from a position of strength.

I hope that the next President of The United States is a leader that understands that the security of the American people is NOT negotiable… that we will not be intimidated.

John F. Kennedy at his Inaugural Address in 1961:

“ Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.”

President Bush's address to the joint session of Congress on Thursday night, September 20, 2001after the September 11th attack on the World Trade Center in New York:

“I will not forget the wound to our country and those who inflicted it. I will not yield, I will not rest, I will not relent in waging this struggle for freedom and security for the American people. The course of this conflict is not known, yet its outcome is certain. Freedom and fear, justice and cruelty, have always been at war, and we know that God is not neutral between them.”

Many have cast the aspersion that Al-Qaeda and other assorted groups want Obama to be our next president.

It’s difficult to resist the impulse to go there.

Osama has vehemently “advised” the United States to withdraw its troops from Iraq.

And so has Obama.

Obama and Osama DO seem to be on the same page in regards to how we should conduct the war against those that would destroy our way of life.

Conversely, our enemies don’t seem to care for President Bush, one iota.

They don’t seem to like McCain too much either

I wonder why?

In his 1996 ‘Declaration of War Against the Americans,’ Osama bin Laden cited the U.S. retreat from Somalia in 1993: "You have been disgraced by Allah and you withdrew. The extent of your impotence and weaknesses has become very clear. When people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature they will like the strong horse.”

Bin laden also believed at the time that America was a “paper tiger” as he put it.

I think we are now well on our way to dispossessing the radical Islamic terrorist of the above point of view.

As Mr. bin Laden said “when people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature they will like the strong horse.”

Thanks to President Bush and our brave soldiers we are now on our way to demonstrating that WE are the strong horse.

We are now in a better position to negotiate from a position of strength than we were before the invasion of Iraq.

We are more secure.

Before peace can be obtained one must have security.

Subservience to the threats of our enemies is not a tradition of a free people.

As I said earlier:

I hope that the next President of The United States is a leader that understands that the security of the American people is NOT negotiable… that we will not be intimidated.

I disagree with Senator Obama.

Our success in Iraq was worth our time, worth our money, and worth putting up with “undetermined” consequences.


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1 posted on 07/30/2008 6:31:30 PM PDT by STE=Q
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To: STE=Q

Forgot the last line (that democrats rely on for their support)

IGNORANCE IS BLISS


2 posted on 07/30/2008 6:33:14 PM PDT by MCCRon58 (Freedom does not mean you are free from the consequences of your own freely made decisions.)
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To: STE=Q

The unhinged hard Left has Odismal locked in to his position: the US lost the war in Iraq. You can believe him or you can believe your own eyes.


3 posted on 07/30/2008 6:35:17 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: STE=Q

Obama: Success is Failure, Victory is Defeat! (vanity)

Some of you may have been surprised that even after visiting Iraq Obama still talks about our accomplishments there in somewhat disparaging terms.

As senator McCain aptly put it:

“Senator Obama said that the strategy of the surge would not succeed. He said it was doomed to fail. He said there would be an increase in sectarian violence. He still, to this day, has said that the surge is not succeeding.”
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/mccain-keeps-up-iraq-attack-on-obama/

A very critical linchpin in Obama’s political platform has been his unequivocal opposition to the invasion of Iraq — pejoratively referred to by the left as “Bush ’s war.”

Obama has portrayed himself as the proverbial voice crying in the wilderness.

Indeed, even Hillary Clinton was denigrated for her support of President Bush after the September 11th 2001 terrorists attacks on the World Trade Center in New York. ( Hillary approved S. J. Res. 45, A Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq )

In his 2002 Speech Against the Iraq War, Obama says: http://usliberals.about.com/od/extraordinaryspeeches/a/Obama2002War.htm

“I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences.”

Obama’s message is very clear:

That even if the war in Iraq is successful (1) It‘s not worth our time. (2) It‘s not worth our money. (3) It‘s not worth putting up with the inevitable ‘undetermined’ consequences.

In Obama’s world view, even if our military in Iraq is successful, it’s still a failure!

According to Obama the war never should have happened.

But the reality is, it DID happen… and now all but the most dense know we are winning in Iraq.

The terrorist are on the run and it now appears to most observers that “Bush’s War” is proving a success.

Still Obama refuses to acknowledge victory.

Why is that?

Obama recently wrote (July 14th 2008) in his opted at the New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/14/opinion/14obama.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

“ The differences on Iraq in this campaign are deep. Unlike Senator John McCain, I opposed the war in Iraq before it began, and would end it as president ”

Obama clearly states that he opposed the war before it began.

He is not alone.

On October 18, 2003 Arabic satellite television (Al Jazeera) reported that they were in possession
of an audio tape with a message from bin Laden, sent to Arabic satellite television “advising” U.S. forces to leave Iraq.

President Bush begs to differ with bin Laden and holds the course in Iraq.

“In the same message bin Laden vows “to carry out more September 11-style suicide attacks against US interests.”

Almost five years later Al-Qaeda, along with bin Laden, are on the run.

America has been secure from attack at home.

When Americans think of war they think of places far, far, away from their everyday life.

Thanks to “Bush’s war” we have taken the fight to our enemy — rather than the other way around.

With the specter of a nuclear armed Iran looming on the horizon I’m satisfied that we now have a foothold in Iraq.

We are now in a better position to “negotiate” with Iran and other potential enemies from a position of strength.

I hope that the next President of The United States is a leader that understands that the security of the American people is NOT negotiable… that we will not be intimidated.

John F. Kennedy at his Inaugural Address in 1961:

“ Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.”

President Bush’s address to the joint session of Congress on Thursday night, September 20, 2001after the September 11th attack on the World Trade Center in New York:

“I will not forget the wound to our country and those who inflicted it. I will not yield, I will not rest, I will not relent in waging this struggle for freedom and security for the American people. The course of this conflict is not known, yet its outcome is certain. Freedom and fear, justice and cruelty, have always been at war, and we know that God is not neutral between them.”

Many have cast the aspersion that Al-Qaeda and other assorted groups want Obama to be our next president.

It’s difficult to resist the impulse to go there.

Osama has vehemently “advised” the United States to withdraw its troops from Iraq.

And so has Obama.

Obama and Osama DO seem to be on the same page in regards to how we should conduct the war against those that would destroy our way of life.

Conversely, our enemies don’t seem to care for President Bush, one iota.

They don’t seem to like McCain too much either

I wonder why?

In his 1996 ‘Declaration of War Against the Americans,’ Osama bin Laden cited the U.S. retreat from Somalia in 1993: “You have been disgraced by Allah and you withdrew. The extent of your impotence and weaknesses has become very clear. When people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature they will like the strong horse.”

Bin laden also believed at the time that America was a “paper tiger” as he put it.

I think we are now well on our way to dispossessing the radical Islamic terrorist of the above point of view.

As Mr. bin Laden said “when people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature they will like the strong horse.”

Thanks to President Bush and our brave soldiers we are now on our way to demonstrating that WE are the strong horse.

We are now in a better position to negotiate from a position of strength than we were before the invasion of Iraq.

We are more secure.

Before peace can be obtained one must have security.

Subservience to the threats of our enemies is not a tradition of a free people.

As I said earlier:

I hope that the next President of The United States is a leader that understands that the security of the American people is NOT negotiable… that we will not be intimidated.

I disagree with Senator Obama.

Our success in Iraq was worth our time, worth our money, and worth putting up with “undetermined” consequences.


4 posted on 07/30/2008 6:43:50 PM PDT by STE=Q ("These are the times that try men's souls." -- Thomas Paine)
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To: STE=Q; All

Party of Defeat: How Democrats and Radicals Undermined America's War on Terror Before and After 9-11
By David Horowitz and Ben Johnson
FrontPageMagazine.com | Friday, April 11, 2008

The following [link] is the introduction from the new book Party of Defeat by David Horowitz and Ben Johnson. The introduction lays out the book's thesis: that the opposition to the war in Iraq has crossed a troubling boundary. For the first time, a large number of national leaders have not merely opposed a war; that would be their inalienable right under the U.S. Constitution. Instead, they have actively sabotaged an ongoing war they voted to authorize and which our troops are currently winning. Party of Defeat is available from the FrontPage Magazine Bookstore for $15, less than Amazon.com. -- The Editors.

http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=28679004-6C63-4119-97F6-96A2C5F64E84

___________________________________________________________

"David Horowitz talked about his book Party of Defeat: How Democrats and Radicals Undermined America's War on Terror Before and After 9-11, published by Spence. In his book he criticizes members of the Democratic Party that, he says, are undermining the U.S.'s efforts in Iraq. This event was held at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C."

Watch now on c-span video! (FREE)

Party of Defeat: How Democrats and Radicals Undermined America's War on Terror Before and After 9-11 (on streaming video - length: apprx 90min)[Windows Media Video or C-Span Video Player(Flash) -additional details at site]
http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library/index.php?main_page=product_video_info&products_id=205154-1&highlight

5 posted on 07/30/2008 6:51:44 PM PDT by ETL (Plenty of REAL smoking-gun evidence on the demonRats at: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: PaleoBob; Fred Nerks
In Obama’s world view, even if our military in Iraq is successful, it’s still a failure! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Ever ask why? Obama does not know about or respect freedom.He also wants to see a world caliphate, from Indonesia , his hallowed home, through Pakistan, Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq, Egypt, Somalia, Kenya ( yes , that is why he campaigned there for Odinga), Sudan, Libya and all the way through Africa, run the WHITE MAN OUT!

That is what Obama wants. And he is willing to use the Democrat party, and America to get it!!!!

Thats " Hope & Change" Obama style. Hes simply a rascist black power lefty socialist, riding the liberal wave of historic "justice" and racial hatred.

Prediction:

Soon Obama will start accusing John McCain of racial hatred , in return for the so called "low road " ads McCain is running, which dare to reveal the truth about Obama. A truth that the MSM will not tell Americans.

Brace yourselves. It will be a nasty ride.

John McCAin must not falter, and he must not retreat from the Obama's charges that McCain is a "racist."

John McCain must make the case that Obama himself is a racist. Which is the truth. Obama reveals that in his books and in his conduct.

Popcorn please!!!

6 posted on 07/30/2008 6:58:45 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, (Ridicule Obama))
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To: ETL

“they have actively sabotaged an ongoing war they voted to authorize and which our troops are currently winning.”

Horowitz has been ahead of the curve on this subject for sometime.

It now seems more and more obvious, even to the casual observer, that the the Democratic party is, indeed, the party of defeat.

Thanks for the links!

STE=Q


7 posted on 07/30/2008 7:02:56 PM PDT by STE=Q ("These are the times that try men's souls." -- Thomas Paine)
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To: Candor7

“Soon Obama will start accusing John McCain of racial hatred...”

It’s already begun.

If you are white yellow or brawn:

Don’t vote for Obama... Racist!

Don’t agree with Obama... Racist!

Criticize Obama... Racist!

If you are black and oppose Obama you are an “uncle tom” or a sellout to whitey!


8 posted on 07/30/2008 7:13:32 PM PDT by STE=Q ("These are the times that try men's souls." -- Thomas Paine)
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To: STE=Q

TYPO: brawn = brown


9 posted on 07/30/2008 7:16:55 PM PDT by STE=Q ("These are the times that try men's souls." -- Thomas Paine)
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To: STE=Q

Sounds like thw Company i work for the more your fail the higher up the ladder you go !


10 posted on 07/30/2008 7:22:11 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Geeze now if i could only learn how to spell)
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To: Candor7

Popcorn please!!!


I’m beginning to believe that McCain will win this fall. In fact, one more “Ludacris” event between now and then, and I think it’s even possible that 100 or so super delegates will see the writing on the wall and switch their convention votes to Rodham, which could be worse for us in the end. Obysmal just can’t get out of his own way. Competence for a president begins with winning the election. He’s starting to look more incompetent than evil.

Just in case, we all better start preparing a strategy for dealing with McCain for 4 years. He’s never been very “nice” to conservatives.


11 posted on 07/31/2008 7:04:27 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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