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Bin Laden driver was not read rights, court told
Reuters (excerpt) ^ | July 24, 2008

Posted on 07/24/2008 7:21:40 PM PDT by HAL9000

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GUANTANAMO BAY U.S. NAVAL BASE, Cuba, July 24 (Reuters) - A driver for Osama bin Laden was not told of any rights against self-incrimination under years of interrogation, FBI agents told the Guantanamo war crimes court on Thursday.

"Our policy at the time was not to read Miranda rights," FBI special agent Robert Fuller said in testimony at the U.S. military commission trial of Salim Hamdan on charges of conspiracy and providing material support for terrorism.

Fuller was referring to the Miranda v. Arizona U.S. Supreme Court decision in 1966, which held that potential criminal suspects in custody must be informed of rights to an attorney and against self-incrimination.

Similar warnings must be given to suspects in U.S. military custody, and suspects overseas who may face U.S. charges commonly receive warnings. "If they are a suspect, and they are detained, a Miranda is usually given," FBI special agent Stewart Kelley testified.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; binladen; enemycombatant; gitmo; guantanamo; hamdan; militarycommissions; miranda; osama; satire; terrortrials
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1 posted on 07/24/2008 7:21:40 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000

Bin Laden’s driver HAS NO RIGHTS


2 posted on 07/24/2008 7:23:05 PM PDT by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: HAL9000

3 posted on 07/24/2008 7:24:52 PM PDT by rdl6989 ( I'm a carbon based human being, a Carbonated-American)
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To: HAL9000
"If they are a suspect, and they are detained, a Miranda is usually given," FBI special agent Stewart Kelley testified.

WHY? The enemy is outside the US altogether, and he is provided no protection under the US Constitution - the US Constitution doesn't even apply on a foreign battlefield!

4 posted on 07/24/2008 7:25:43 PM PDT by Ken522
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To: HAL9000

All the Gitmo terrorist scum is going to walk sooner or later because of the SC ruling. I’m just sorry they can’t be released in Souter’s, Stevens’, Ginsburg’s, Breyer’s, and Kennedy’s neighborhoods.


5 posted on 07/24/2008 7:26:20 PM PDT by penowa
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To: HAL9000

It is past time to modify or overturn Miranda . “You have the right to drink water through your nose”.


6 posted on 07/24/2008 7:27:47 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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To: HAL9000

We are doomed.


7 posted on 07/24/2008 7:29:47 PM PDT by Radix (Think it is bad now? Wait until you have to press "2" for English!)
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To: HAL9000
You have the right to be shot on sight an an enemy of the United States...
8 posted on 07/24/2008 7:31:07 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: HAL9000
Bin Laden and his crowd, which includes this puke, didn't give any of the people they executed in New York City their rights ~

If they'll just give the public the time and place they intend to turn this guy loose, the people will take care of the problem the government seems incapable of resolving.

9 posted on 07/24/2008 7:32:25 PM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: HAL9000

Just shoot the phuk and be done with it.


10 posted on 07/24/2008 7:33:04 PM PDT by MarkT
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Oh geez. I hope we didn’t allow Saddam HUSSEIN to go to the gallows without reading him his Miranda rights.


11 posted on 07/24/2008 7:35:39 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("The End Is Near!" - Algore)
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You have the right to be shot on sight an an enemy of the United States...

That would seem to be the eventual consequence of this nonsense. Unfortunately, what will probably end up happening is that our soldiers will be tried as war criminals for killing the enemy on the battlefield.

12 posted on 07/24/2008 7:38:13 PM PDT by G.Love (Romney '12)
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To: Ken522

And since he was not in the uniform or a citizen of the country he as captured in, he also has no Geneva Convention rights.


13 posted on 07/24/2008 7:38:29 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: HAL9000

Under the Geneva Conventions and the US Law of Land Warfare, this ILLEGAL COMBATANT (aka “spy”and “not lawful combatant” in the GC) has NO RIGHTS and, after a Military Trial, can and should be executed.

But we were told that AQ knew to use our laws and generally leftist lawyers against us years ago. Thanks to idiots on the Supreme Court, these trials will all become circuses.


14 posted on 07/24/2008 7:38:36 PM PDT by M1Tanker (Proven Daily: Modern "progressive" liberalism is just National Socialism without the "twisted cross")
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To: HAL9000

How many German, Italian, Japanese POW’s were read their Miranda rights?


15 posted on 07/24/2008 7:40:24 PM PDT by Don Carlos (No8Do)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Good point. I forgot to add that this makes him a mercenary who was part of a group killing civilians of that country.

Again, no rights, especially those given in the US Constitution. Rights demand responsibilities. Rights without responsibilities are entitlements and those do not exist.


16 posted on 07/24/2008 7:41:21 PM PDT by M1Tanker (Proven Daily: Modern "progressive" liberalism is just National Socialism without the "twisted cross")
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To: HAL9000

Inside the Beltway, the Constitution has become a suicide pact (when it’s not used for toilet paper).


17 posted on 07/24/2008 7:43:16 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: HAL9000
Oh the horrors!!!

I suppose screaming Kahluah at the Bar was their version of Miranda on 911.

18 posted on 07/24/2008 7:43:34 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I will stand with the Muslims ~B Hussein Obomber Verito Possumus~Verified Sleeper!)
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To: MarkT

Just shoot the phuk and be done with it.


My thoughts exactly.


19 posted on 07/24/2008 7:43:45 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: DTogo

The Constitution must be strictly followed for AQ. Of course, its a “living document” when it comes to actual US citizens.


20 posted on 07/24/2008 7:45:08 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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