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To: paudio
I'm of the view we need people to behave decently in public. I'm one of those socons who thinks it needs to come from people's sense of right and wrong. The government is not the address to uplift people's moral deportment.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

5 posted on 07/23/2008 2:37:21 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

I agree with you, but not all socons hold similar view as you do. The Family Research Council —a main player in socon movement— seems to be one of those who don’t.


6 posted on 07/23/2008 2:46:17 AM PDT by paudio (Like it or not, 'conservatism' is a word with many meanings. Yours may be different from mine.)
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To: goldstategop

“The government is not the address to uplift people’s moral deportment. “

In times past the church did that by influence and not by legislation.


25 posted on 07/23/2008 4:57:39 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: goldstategop

I’m of the firm belief that

if you remove all the social “safety nets” that cushion the consequences for immoral behavior,

you’ll get a lot less of it (within a couple of generations, max)

without empowering the gov’t more than it needs to be.


42 posted on 07/23/2008 6:27:26 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: goldstategop
The government is not the address to uplift people's moral deportment.

Then it won't happen. The result is hedonism. We have been sliding down this slope since the sixties, with no sign of amelioration.

Ref: Judge Bork's book "Slouching to Gomorra."

78 posted on 07/23/2008 3:02:37 PM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. The only question is whether by conquest or consent.)
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