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Baby Milk Recommendations Changed
WebMD.com ^ | 7/11/2008 | Daniel J. DeNoon

Posted on 07/14/2008 12:44:42 PM PDT by Oyarsa

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To: CholeraJoe
Ok so I locked my bullets up, can I leave my loaded cartridges in my gun?
21 posted on 07/14/2008 1:20:05 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.)
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To: HamiltonJay
I always heard it was whole milk at least until 2 years, they need the milk fat to aid in brain development.

That's exactly what I always heard and advised parents. There has to be some ulterior motive for the Commies at the AAP to change their recommendations....

22 posted on 07/14/2008 1:20:06 PM PDT by Born Conservative (Visit my blog: Chronic Positivity - http://chronicpositivity.com)
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To: keepitreal

Sun exposure is a more efficient way to get Vitamin D than milk, but with all of the sunscreen use, that is leading to Vitamin D deficiency. I predict that there will eventually be a “policy” warning against too much sunscreen (in a couple of years).


23 posted on 07/14/2008 1:24:26 PM PDT by Born Conservative (Visit my blog: Chronic Positivity - http://chronicpositivity.com)
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To: HamiltonJay

Guess what? This is a change because those bastards at DHS (Human Services in several states) give moms “free milk’ though WIC - and FORCE them ONLY to get 2% milk.


24 posted on 07/14/2008 1:27:17 PM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for latest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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To: Oyarsa

I drink skim and I also use cream and butter. I am from a family of dairy farmers. That is the way farm families drank milk before homogenization. They took the cream off to make butter or use as cream and then drank the “skimmed” milk.


25 posted on 07/14/2008 1:30:39 PM PDT by bluegirl
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To: Oyarsa

I’ve wondered how much the low fat diet recommendations have contributed to obesity. I’ve read that in the past, long before we were hit with an obesity epidemic, about 50% of calories came from fat. Now the recommendation is for 30% of calories to come from fat.

For me, eating a high fat meal suppresses my appetite, so I won’t feel like eating again for hours. I have a hypothesis that people eating low fat have increased appetites, because they’re trying to keep their lipid intake up but the lipids aren’t being provided at sufficient quantity in the low fat diet. There are certain essential lipids the body just can’t make.


26 posted on 07/14/2008 1:30:50 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Motor vehicle accidents, drowning and bicycle accidents each account for more childhood fatalities than firearms, yet nowhere does the AAP state: “Do not allow your child to ride in a motor vehicle, approach a body of water, or ride a bicycle.”

91% of all childhood firearms deaths are due to homicide (61%) or suicide. (30%) Only about 400 childhood deaths per year are due to accidental firearms discharge.

In the District of Columbia, which until recently almost completely banned firearms ownership, firearms are the #1 cause of childhood deaths.

(All statistics from the AAP’s own website.)


27 posted on 07/14/2008 1:41:31 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (Guarding humanity against things that go bump in the night.)
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To: Oyarsa
Too much Fat does not cause fat.

Too many carbohydrates cause the body to store fat !

A Low Fat diet causes people to consume too many carbohydrates.

A Low Fat diet causes Americans to become obese.


28 posted on 07/14/2008 1:50:26 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: Oyarsa

Good grief! How on earth did we ever manage to bring up healthy children without such wisdom? I actually relied on common sense and fed my children whole milk from the time they were weaned until they married and left home. Both were very healthy, quite slim, and had gorgeous teeth.


29 posted on 07/14/2008 2:03:59 PM PDT by steppinhi (God Bless & Protect Our Troops and their families!)
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To: coop71

My boys’ pediatrician is a nice man. Really. He obviously cares for the kids and he has always given good advice as to their REAL medical issues (which have been few and far between).

However, he does occasionally slip into LiberalLand and make remarks about things like whole milk and guns and such. He once asked if there were any guns in the house and when I reminded him that my husband is a policeman, he frowned and said, “Well, I hope he doesn’t bring his gun home.” I laughed right in his face and told him to stick to medicine and I’d worry about the firearms, thanks. He never mentioned it again.

Now that my oldest is approaching puberty (impossible, as he was only born just yesterday), I have had to make adjustments. From now on, my husband will take him for his checkup and he will NEVER leave the exam room. I know that many pediatricians practically demand that the parents leave the room so they can give them condoms and sexual advice. That will not happen with my kids, and it will be safer for the doc if hubby is there and not me. Hubby is a MUCH nicer person than I am.

Bottom line: Docs should stop making sweeping statements like these and treat each kid INDIVIDUALLY as the need arises.

Regards,


30 posted on 07/14/2008 2:07:31 PM PDT by VermiciousKnid
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To: VermiciousKnid

Your ped sounds like ours...slipping into Lib mode every once and a while. I’ve waited for the gun question, but it hasn’t come up yet. You guys handled it well. And really, your husband is a police officer! What the heck does the dr expect?


31 posted on 07/14/2008 2:21:24 PM PDT by coop71 (Being a redhead means never having to say you're sorry...)
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To: CholeraJoe
If I recall correctly they define “child” as under 21.
32 posted on 07/14/2008 2:25:43 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.)
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To: coop71

I guess he expects hubby to actually leave his gun at work.

*** A pause now for hysterical laughter ***

Well, what should I expect? I’m still stuck here on Long Island.

Regards from a fellow redhead,


33 posted on 07/14/2008 2:27:53 PM PDT by VermiciousKnid
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To: HamiltonJay

Human breast milk is higher in fat than the these lamebrain nutritionists recommend. I used to breed various animals. They all needed a higher fat diet until mature. For some a low fat diet could produce epilepsy.


34 posted on 07/14/2008 2:34:50 PM PDT by Varda
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To: coop71

For decades children drank whole milk, and there was no obesity. For decades everyone was in the sun, and did not use sunscreens. Why is it now everyone is drinking 1 percent milk, and everyone is wearing sunscreen?

Why are we obese now, and there is a very high rate of skin cancer? Have there ever been any studies about sunscreen?


35 posted on 07/14/2008 3:07:47 PM PDT by JBCiejka
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To: elc
The Vitamin D deficiencies are more of a result of those screaming that we must stay out of the sun.

And if you do ever happen to spend some time in the sun, always wear SPF 80 full-spectrum UVA-and-B blocking sunscreen...

36 posted on 07/14/2008 3:30:01 PM PDT by dan1123 (If you want to find a person's true religion, ask them what makes them a "good person".)
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To: VermiciousKnid

My kids pedi had given me advice such as yours, but did not preach about it. He also asked that our hot water tank was not set over 120 degrees, but also about car seats and sizes of food that they were chewing. I have no problem with them giving me advice about things that never occured to me, like the hot water heater. If they say it once, I have no problem, but no preaching thank you.


37 posted on 07/14/2008 3:31:51 PM PDT by JBCiejka
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To: coop71
It’s excessive processed carbs and high fructose corn syrup, along with inactivity that makes kids (and adults) obese. NOT whole milk. Do these guys know anything about nutrition? Low fat/high carb is a lousy way to feed your body.

To make things worse, it's much more time consuming and more expensive to get proper foods that aren't full of processed white flour and HFCS. A bag of almonds costs over 3 times the amount of a bag of potato chips. A basket of berries costs more than twice the amount of a box of fruit snacks--and you better eat or freeze the berries fast or they go bad. Expect to spend 50% more for bread that they haven't stripped the nutrients from. And to be on topic, whole milk costs 10% more than low-fat. If you're willing to spend more time in the kitchen, you can make healthy foods inexpensively (which isn't fair because the cost of your time is not factored in), or you can buy much more pricey prepared "health" foods which have also been manipulated to increase shelf-life.

Also, time demands and highly structured schedules for today's kids are insane now. You would think that cell-phones that let parents track a child's location on the internet would let children be more free. Instead, dual-income homes force kids into structured activities for a full 50-60 hour work week. If you go against the grain and have a single income household, don't expect to buy a house--ever. It's really tough to have a small child run freely in a large apartment complex surrounded by a parking lot and a heavily used 4-lane road.

38 posted on 07/14/2008 3:55:53 PM PDT by dan1123 (If you want to find a person's true religion, ask them what makes them a "good person".)
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To: XeniaSt

Amen.

It took me almost 30 years to realize it was the worthless carbohydrates I was consuming me that made me feel so terrible (and gain weight!) Once I moved to a more “traditional” diet of veggies, protein, and plenty of fats, did I feel great and lose the weight.


39 posted on 07/14/2008 3:59:45 PM PDT by TheMightyQuinn
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To: JBCiejka

Personally, I don’t think they’re related. I think we’re way more aware of skin cancer and therefore, people go to the dermatologist for screenings—and therefore, more people are diagnosed with cancers. Who went to the dermatologist 40 years ago for a routine skin cancer screening? Not many. And my mom let me sit out at the pool and blister when I was a kid. Sunburns were just a part of summer.

As for the lowfat milk/lowfat foods...there are tons of studies that show that lowfat diets are actually helping increase obesity. Read “In Defense of Food” by Michael Pollan or “Good Calories, Bad Calories” by Gary Taubes. Both lay out the claim quite well with pretty good sources that high fructose corn syrup, refined carbs, and low-fat diets are doing more harm than good.

So again, I don’t think sunscreen and obesity are linked, but it’s an interesting idea and I’m not certain any studies have been done on the link between the two.


40 posted on 07/14/2008 4:10:35 PM PDT by coop71 (Being a redhead means never having to say you're sorry...)
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