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Cruze news: [Chevy] Cobalt replacement to get turbo'd 1.4-liter and 40 mpg
autoblog ^ | Jul 14th 2008 | Jeremy Korzeniewski

Posted on 07/14/2008 6:09:19 AM PDT by wolf78

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To: Gorzaloon
But as long as no one expects this to happen, you can get great deals on some of the big vehicles. I may buy one myself for local hardware trips.

I bought a 1992 Jeep Cherokee with the 4.0 six. It needs about $1,000 for it to be where I want it ($280 to just get it running again - computer). Paid cash. Am now trying to sell my 1 year old Elantra.

Funny I didn't put any down on it and it shows that private party value is more than I owe, so, I'm ahead of the game. It gets great mileage, but with payment, insurance, and fuel, it costs me between $445 and $470/month. The jeep will cost me between $190 and $200 for just gas and insurance... I can use the difference for something else, like corn on the cob.

41 posted on 07/14/2008 7:28:49 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: Fishrrman

I agree with that. I’m at 218,000 on my 15 year-old Honda Civic.


42 posted on 07/14/2008 7:29:06 AM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Mr. Lucky

“Poor timing? Improper boost? Wrong rear end?”

Both cars!? Not even. I repeat my previous commentary:

“The Pro’s I’ve mentioned are a single Volvo/SAAB auto clinic (not a chain) that is rated amongst the top 20 repair facilities across the Nation by AAA. I have to believe they know what the “H” they are doing. Besides we have had our cars serviced by them since 1988.”

I’ll add to this that they are Swedish and speak Swedish as well are factory experienced and trained on these automobiles. The cars are OEM, not altered in anyway.

This week I will check mileage on our third SAAB which is a 9-5 six cylinder turbo automatic. I’ll followup this discussion if another thread about cars, or Ethanol allow a segue.

I rechecked mileage on the four cylinder cars first as this 9-5 will get less than I want to know about lol. (shaking head)


43 posted on 07/14/2008 7:30:42 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: IYAS9YAS
Caprice. The 396 was rated at 425 horsepower but was closer to 525. I think insurance had something to do with this. All but the tube headers were stock GM issue.
I learned that these big blocks can't take a hard whipping like the small blocks. One day, the big motor shook hard and "boom." A trail of oil followed me to the side of the highway.
44 posted on 07/14/2008 7:31:08 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Fishrrman
1993 Acura Integra (fuel injected). It went 300,000 before I sold it, never needed an engine rebuild, and still used hardly any oil when I let it go.

- 91 Integra, we got 341,000 miles, no drive train or body problems ever, other than timing chain (belt). Great Great auto.

You are absolutely right about 100k. And turbo-charging, from my experience, is a long term insidious problem.

My vote for diesel.

45 posted on 07/14/2008 7:34:49 AM PDT by jnsun (The LEFT: The need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer)
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To: Fishrrman
100,000 miles? That’s all you get? That’s NOTHING in today’s market. 100,000 miles - to me - is a “disposable car”.

I'm trying to get over something that was trained into me. My dad has gone through more cars in a single year than some do in a lifetime.

I'm trying to unlearn that. So, to me 100,000 miles is a lot (given that I pack on between 7,500 and 8,500 a year - it would be around twelve years for me to see 100,000 miles (in my old days, that would be 5 or so vehicles).

So, from my perspective, that was a lot.

I'll agree that 100,000 is throw-away mileage, the jeep I just bought has 200,000 on it and seems to only need a computer (ran fine when it worked, no smoke).

46 posted on 07/14/2008 7:36:35 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: varyouga

Automobile names are frequently chosen for some psychological effect. Think of the connotations: (Mustang) a wild horse, (Pinto) a little Mustang, (Pacifica) the churning ocean, (La Sabre) obvious, (Expedition)(Explorer)(Denali) rugged outdoors, (Vega) (Corvette) sleek, fast ships or plans, (Eldorado) etc. Make your list but you can also see the West Coast influence, no more Chrysler New Yorker or Plymouth Belvedere.


47 posted on 07/14/2008 7:39:55 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I learned that these big blocks can't take a hard whipping like the small blocks. One day, the big motor shook hard and "boom." A trail of oil followed me to the side of the highway.

Yeah, I used to shift that 327 at about 6,800 rpms when racing, missed a few shifts before getting the tranny rebuild (had a nasty little habit of not actually going into second gear, thought it was the linkage, but was an internal problem - it was a twenty-year old transmission).

I sold it and the guy who bought it from me raced it as well. About ten years or so after my dad and I built that motor, the new owner tore it down, other than a single broken piston ring, it went back together without any machine work being needed.

48 posted on 07/14/2008 7:41:54 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: rockinqsranch

If the cars are OEM, did they come from the factory tuned for ethanol?


49 posted on 07/14/2008 7:47:46 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: IYAS9YAS
Someone told me that the only way to keep a big block from that era in one piece was to have it completely balanced and blueprinted. I'd spent enough on the car and it seemed to go pretty good so I never spent money for this. At 6500 RPM, it did make a marvelous noise...
50 posted on 07/14/2008 7:50:08 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: FlashBack

My 1980 Fairmont used to get better mileage than that, the problem was I’d only get two and a half miles out of the NOS bottle. Of course, I only ran high 11s. Yours appears to be a touch faster, I could only get the left front off for the first 10 feet or so.


51 posted on 07/14/2008 8:02:15 AM PDT by Malsua
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
a sentence about your web site

Mine gets great milage..... Until I put the accelerator into the firewall.

52 posted on 07/14/2008 8:03:13 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: Mr. Lucky

You have some stake in Ethanol, or what? Look at the overall conversation thus far.

One is a ‘99, and the other car is a 2001. “Tuned for Ethanol”? Perhaps they would be if they were 2006 or newer.

My point is that not everybody has brand new cars and I believe by my experience that Ethanol is robbing us all of our hard earned money fore and aft and NOT achieving the purpose of its mandate as well. I’m also asking all to check their MPG to see how the claims of mileage are holding up in reality.

It doesn’t matter what car, whether it’s turbo, or not, or engine size etc. Those are options. We haven’t the option when it comes to Ethanol, and I believe my fuel mileage checks are telling me something about Ethanol, and I simply want to pass that on to others to check for themselves.


53 posted on 07/14/2008 8:10:24 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Malsua

We’ve had it in the 9’s but our current combo is a low 10 second setup.
401”Windsor, C4 trans w/brake, 4.57 gears, 13:1 comp ratio, camshaft is an Extreme Energy street grind custom ground on a billet core with mid .637/.646 lift
Still currently licensed for the street as well.


54 posted on 07/14/2008 8:10:56 AM PDT by FlashBack (www.proudpatriots.org/www.woundedwarriorproject.org/www.moveamericaforward.org)
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To: rockinqsranch
Here's your problem: from a quick Google search, it appears that Saab doesn't offer a flex-fuel version of the 9-5 in the United States. Unless you own about a 2005 or later model and imported it yourself, it's not intended to run on ethanol. Why do you think your car is flex-fuel, or otherwise ethanol tuned, to begin with?
55 posted on 07/14/2008 8:20:01 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Realism

I can’t read the advert. Is that the supercharged Regal?


56 posted on 07/14/2008 8:22:37 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
supercharged Regal?

Nope, turbocharged 3.8 L

57 posted on 07/14/2008 8:26:28 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Link to AD

http://www.oldcarbrochures.com/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=11329&g2_


58 posted on 07/14/2008 8:28:00 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: Mr. Lucky

Your latest question: “Why do you think your car is flex-fuel, or otherwise ethanol tuned, to begin with?”

My previous post: “One is a ‘99, and the other car is a 2001. “Tuned for Ethanol”? Perhaps they would be if they were 2006 or newer.”

“tuned for Ethanol?” Please note the ?, then I said “Perhaps they would be if they were 2006 or newer.”

I also mentioned my point being...as in the previous post.

Thanks for the input, but seems I’m not able to get my point across. Gotta run. Long day ahead.


59 posted on 07/14/2008 8:30:55 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

“It got 8 miles to the gallon of premium gasoline.”

LOL

I got about the same mpg in my Plymouth GTX with 440 cid engine, and that was when I kept my foot out of it.

Can you imagine the cost of feeding those beasts today?


60 posted on 07/14/2008 8:31:12 AM PDT by EEDUDE
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