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Who's to Blame for IndyMac's Failure? [Can you spell Schumer?]
Seeking Alpha ^ | July 12, 2008 | Mark McQueen

Posted on 07/12/2008 3:08:39 PM PDT by upchuck

The $32 billion failure of U.S. mortgage lender IndyMac demonstrates just how differently the United States is governed than Canada. This from today’s Wall Street Journal:

The director of the Office of Thrift Supervision, John Reich, blamed IndyMac’s failure on comments made in late June by Sen. Charles Schumer (D., N.Y.), who sent a letter to the regulator raising concerns about the bank’s solvency. In the following 11 days, spooked depositors withdrew a total of $1.3 billion. Mr. Reich said Sen. Schumer gave the bank a “heart attack.”

“Would the institution have failed without the deposit run?” Mr. Reich asked reporters. “We’ll never know the answer to that question.”

Mr. Schumer quickly fired back.

“If OTS had done its job as regulator and not let IndyMac’s poor and loose lending practices continue, we wouldn’t be where we are today,” Sen. Schumer said. “Instead of pointing false fingers of blame, OTS should start doing its job to prevent future IndyMacs.”

You might be asking yourself, why is a New York Senator asking a regulator to look into a California bank’s “solvency”? Sen. Shumer is a member of multiple committees, each of which gives him a call on the financial markets and banking sector: Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs & Finance are two of his key Senate committees. He also Chairs the Senate Subcommittees on Economic Policy (Banking).

Having established that he has an oversight interest in the banking world, just what is he doing writing letters that could be seen to encourage panic on the part of depositors? When his staff sat around and discussed what to do before the letter was issued, they would have discussed the obvious risks to IndyMac’s solvency if a key U.S. Senator was raising concerns about solvency. At the same time, others would have advocated that “he has to be ahead of the issue” and “on the record” before Indymac hits the wall.

It’s not like Americans haven’t lived through a year of warnings (see prior post “US subprime borrowers sink deeper into trouble” June 15-07) about the financial health of small to mid-sized U.S. financial institutions. Many Californians lined up last summer to get their savings out of Countrywide Financial (CFC), for example (see prior post “Has the run started at Countrywide?” August 18-07). Moreover, Sen. Shumer’s anger appeared to be directed at the Office for Thrift Supervision, as much as it was at IndyMac’s management. I’m not sure that five votes in New York State tilt on whether or not Sen. Shumer was “out in front” on this issue or not. His profile is so high, and his power to get projects passed for N.Y. so clear, that his Senate seat is likely in the bag for several terms to come.

Which makes it all the more interesting that he got into the details of this specific situation. It appears to me that he was just doing his job. Which is probably more than you can say, as an outsider, for the Office of Thrift Supervision [OTS].

If the SEC continues to be AWOL on most of its mandate, and the OTS can’t help its charges avoid insolvency, huge corners of the U.S. capital markets fall to those members of Congress who are prepared to take the baton.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; banking; charlesschumer; indymac; schumer; scumbagschumer
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To: RegulatorCountry
They were already well on their way there before he opened his mouth.

You would not have known about IndyMac but for its failure. Many of those who ran to that bank to make withdrawals were likewise panicked by information not previously known to them.

It is illegal for anyone to cause a run on a bank. In fact, there are laws against causing a run on any insured financial institution and Schumer could be prosecuted for divulging inside information which caused a bank to fail. Schumer had no business making public pronouncements about potential insolvency of any bank. Such statements have been proven historically to be self-fulfilling prophesies.

41 posted on 07/12/2008 4:12:17 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

I think some Republican Senators need to demand an Ethics Committee hearing, at a minimum, and also demand thsat Schumer be removed from the Banking Committee. It would also be nice if some IndyMac shareholders and depositors filed a class action lawsuit against Schumer.


42 posted on 07/12/2008 4:12:57 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (RIP Tony Snow, great American, father, and Christian)
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To: upchuck

Among other things, GLB tore down the old Glass-Steagall ‘’wall’’ between investment and commercial banking, with one result being that we now have an orgy of speculation by investment banks using commercial banks’ funds (i.e. your and my deposits).


43 posted on 07/12/2008 4:15:11 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: Dems_R_Losers

Republican Banking Committee Members

Richard C. Shelby Ranking Member (R-AL)

Robert F. Bennett (R-UT)

Wayne Allard (R-CO)

Michael B. Enzi (R-WY)

Chuck Hagel (R-NE)

Jim Bunning (R-KY)

Mike Crapo (R-ID)

Elizabeth Dole (R-NC)

Mel Martinez (R-FL)

Bob Corker (R-TN)

http://banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Information.Membership

They can be contacted through their links on the site.


44 posted on 07/12/2008 4:17:38 PM PDT by EBH ( ... the riotousness of the crowd is always very close to madness. --Alculin c.735-804)
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To: mkjessup

That’s a good idea about a Justice investigation. We should try to get some Republicans in the Senate or House to write to the AG and request an investigation. IndyMac was based in Pasadena - I don’t know who the Congressperson is for that area, but he or she might have some questions for Mr. Schumer! God knows Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein won’t care about this, even as thousands of their constituents lose their jobs.


45 posted on 07/12/2008 4:18:17 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (RIP Tony Snow, great American, father, and Christian)
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To: BusterBear

You might be asking yourself, why is a New York Senator asking a regulator to look into a California bank’s “solvency”?
Theory 1: Schumer is the head of the Senate Democratic Campaign Committee. If he can show that he can destroy a bank by circulating a letter questioning its solvency, then he might expect that will lead to more campaign contributions from fearful financial institutions.

Theory 2: He believes he can increase Democrat gains in November by causing one or more banks to go under, producing more economic turmoil

Possibility number three. A New York based bank swoops in to save the day and pick up the pieces. For pennies on the dollar I might add.

Maybe a bank from this list.
Chuck Schumer is Chairman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. Take a look at some of the DSCC’s top donors so far :

Goldman Sachs $362,550
JPMorganChase $311,604
Morgan Stanley $169,450
Citigroup $146,250


46 posted on 07/12/2008 4:18:34 PM PDT by cquiggy
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To: iopscusa
Is there any way to punish Schuckster?

Publicity.

On Friday, Mark Levin's producer put in a call to Schumer's office to try to get him on the show to answer questions. Larry Kudlow was all over Schumer on his show today. I expect Rush and Sean will be after him next week. His role has already been publicized in the Wall Street Journal and the NY Times (gasp).

Maybe after enough publicity, something real will be done.

47 posted on 07/12/2008 4:19:53 PM PDT by BusterBear
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
You would not have known about IndyMac but for its failure.

Their rapidly declining stock price is available to all. I read several financial forums daily, and the condition of IMB has been the subject of much dire speculation, for several months.

Republicans need to stop circling the wagons because one of the main factors in this is the responsibility of Gramm. There's quite enough blame to go around, all the way back to the Clinton era. Clinton flunkies at Fannie Mae have a lot of explaining to do, too, not that they'll ever be called on the carpet.

48 posted on 07/12/2008 4:21:10 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: cquiggy
We'll know for sure if Citigroup buys what's left of IndyMac. IndyMac already sold its mortgage operation to a new company called Prospect Mortgage, but there are no political connections there.

There's another angle to this that I am working on and it's a lot more complicated. It involves ongoing efforts by the State of New York to assert regulatory authority over national banks. This would explain why Schumer went after IndyMac, and it also involves AG Andrew Cuomo going after Washiungton Mutual over its appraisal practices.

49 posted on 07/12/2008 4:26:44 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (RIP Tony Snow, great American, father, and Christian)
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To: Dems_R_Losers
Unfortunately it appears that Pasadena is represented by Congressman Adam Schiff (D).

However that doesn't mean that he shouldn't be receiving plenty of input on an issue that affects his constituency:

Email the good Congressman right here:

http://schiff.house.gov/HoR/CA29/Contact+Information/Contact+Form.htm

50 posted on 07/12/2008 4:26:52 PM PDT by mkjessup
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To: upchuck

Is it S-h-i-t-h-e-a-d?


51 posted on 07/12/2008 4:27:02 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (Bolshecrat, where patriotism is replacing the stars in the flag with hammers and sickles.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Fannie Mae is MUCH more at fault here than Phil Gramm. Stop reading the DNC talking points. The Gramm-Leach-Bliley legislation passed on an overwhelming, bipartisan vote. It was needed to help U.S. banks stay competitive with foreign banks, and to allow Citigroup to buy Travelers Insurance.


52 posted on 07/12/2008 4:28:57 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (RIP Tony Snow, great American, father, and Christian)
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To: RegulatorCountry; NoControllingLegalAuthority
You would not have known about IndyMac but for its failure.
Their rapidly declining stock price is available to all. I read several financial forums daily, and the condition of IMB has been the subject of much dire speculation, for several months.


I salute you on your financial awareness and acumen, however I think you would have to concede that the average American does NOT read any financial forum on a daily basis, let alone more than one. Our population has been dumbed down to the point where all the majority knows is what the DJIA is at the close of business, assuming they've bothered to tune in the evening news on the tube.

Sad but true.
53 posted on 07/12/2008 4:30:34 PM PDT by mkjessup
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To: upchuck

who was the senator that pulled a cya letter from his files when caught doing something? i can’t recall the details or who it was - but the senator was known for doing that

i am glad the announcement was held until after the market closed - friday was already a spooky day without adding this

i can understand why they were spooked when you add fannie mae and freddie mac to the mix - seems like monday will be a test of their stability

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121577699220645703.html

After a week of near panic among shareholders of the two companies — and a stomach-churning day on Wall Street Friday — the next big test will come Monday when Freddie Mac is due to sell $3 billion of short-term debt. An unsuccessful sale could be a major blow to investor confidence. If the administration were to intervene, it could do so before markets opened that day, according to a person familiar with the deliberations.

but obama’s buddy will be ok

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWM3MDFkM2QwNzRjODk3NWZhZTc3OGIxNDQ4Nzc2NDc=

Investigators found that Fannie Mae had hidden a substantial amount of Johnson’s 1998 compensation from the public, reporting that it was between $6 million and $7 million when it fact it was $21 million.


54 posted on 07/12/2008 4:39:27 PM PDT by sloop (pfc in the quiet civil war)
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To: upchuck
Does anyone remember what event preceded (but did not necessarily cause by itself) the tech bubble to burst? I think it was perhaps a pretext for the selloff. I remember that a Microsoft antitrust case brought by the feds poked a hole in the bubble. At the time, I saw the bubble as one that probably ought to be burst sooner rather than later, so maybe the Democrat Administration's bursting the tech bubble was not entirely bad.

A lot of people lost a lot of money from the tech bubble bursting and don't have my same feeling about it. The are angry and resentful, but they do not recognize that the Clinton administration stuck the pin in the tech bubble.

Now Schumer arguably caused a run on a large bank (or thrift), which may well lead to more runs on banks and then bank failures and taxpayer funded bailouts. He will not be blamed. George W. Bush will be blamed. Few will his role. Liberal academics will never cite him in their historical discussions of bank failures in 2008.

55 posted on 07/12/2008 4:40:16 PM PDT by Montfort
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To: Philly Nomad

“Oh that’s nonsense, the bad business decisions led to the run on the bank.”

I would say Democrats in Congress are responsible and the voters should hold them accountable this fall.

I would also blame the Democrats in Congress for the floods this year, and the wildfires in California.


56 posted on 07/12/2008 4:54:44 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("We have to drain the swamp" George Bush, September 2001)
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To: depressed in 06

Close enough!


57 posted on 07/12/2008 5:01:12 PM PDT by upchuck (As we doggedly march towards dystopia, my poor country is losing it's mind. God help us!)
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To: Dems_R_Losers

“I think some Republican Senators need to demand an Ethics Committee hearing, at a minimum, and also demand thsat Schumer be removed from the Banking Committee. It would also be nice if some IndyMac shareholders and depositors filed a class action lawsuit against Schumer.”

if difi got away with her military committee games (passing info to her husband’s partner), there is zero chance that this will go anywhere

can you envision pelosi’s botox’d face saying ‘culture of corruption’ and ‘for the children’?


58 posted on 07/12/2008 5:02:22 PM PDT by sloop (pfc in the quiet civil war)
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To: BusterBear

“Maybe after enough publicity, something real will be done.”

the plan is to model this on the bcci scandal - too complex to be told in a 2 minute news story


59 posted on 07/12/2008 5:04:36 PM PDT by sloop (pfc in the quiet civil war)
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To: sloop
who was the senator that pulled a cya letter from his files when caught doing something? i can’t recall the details or who it was - but the senator was known for doing that

It was Jay Rockefeller. It had something to do with the Bush Administration's tracking down terrorists - the heads of the Intelligence Committees had been informed and had concurred - but I don't remember the details.

60 posted on 07/12/2008 6:46:08 PM PDT by BusterBear
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