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Who's to Blame for IndyMac's Failure? [Can you spell Schumer?]
Seeking Alpha ^ | July 12, 2008 | Mark McQueen

Posted on 07/12/2008 3:08:39 PM PDT by upchuck

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To: mkjessup; Non-Sequitur

Anybody have a link to those numbers and statements?

Non-Sequitur (reply 14) might be comforted.


21 posted on 07/12/2008 3:48:01 PM PDT by upchuck (As we doggedly march towards dystopia, my poor country is losing it's mind. God help us!)
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To: EBH
I just looked up the reference to the article in the Los Angeles Times, listed in post #11.

According to the article, Schumer's spokesman said the release of the letter was done by his office deliberately:

"On Monday, Schumer aide Brian Fallon offered this explanation for Schumer's action: 'The home loan bank system has an obligation to lend responsibly and police its members. But it has not been doing its job. We have found the only way to get the home loan bank system to act appropriately and positively is to make public the concerns we've already expressed privately.'"

22 posted on 07/12/2008 3:49:02 PM PDT by BusterBear
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To: Non-Sequitur; All
Oh please. If all it took was a comment from Chuck Schumer to bring down the bank then it was on it’s last leg to begin with. Schumer could have praised it to the skies and it would have failed anyway.

That simply is not true.

All banks operate with a minimal amount of cash on hand, and even the FDIC does not have enough cash on hand to handle multiple runs on banks if for any reason, there is a panic and depositors begin rapidly withdrawing their cash.

IndyMac Bank may indeed (and in fact was) in trouble, but in banking (just like politics) a great deal of one's success or failure rides on PERCEPTION.

Once Senator Phuckwit opened his piehole and started yapping about IndyMac being in trouble, it was inevitable that his irresponsible babbling would ultimately spook depositors into withdrawing their funds from IndyMac.

The fact is, if Schumer had made similar statements about ANY bank, the odds are high that it would have resulted in similar runs on that financial institution. Schumer unfortunately isn't just a corrupt windbag, Schumer sits on the committees where his words carry weight when it comes to financial institutions and services.

Now if Schumer made any of his comments about IndyMac outside of the Senate chamber, that suggests to me that he may have opened himself up to some legal liability at some point, perhaps a class action suit by IndyMac account holders.

Regardless, the entire affair needs to be thoroughly investigated, starting with Schumer's office.
23 posted on 07/12/2008 3:49:40 PM PDT by mkjessup
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To: upchuck
FReepers covered it here

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2044490/posts

24 posted on 07/12/2008 3:50:33 PM PDT by fella ("...He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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To: mkjessup
Thanks for posting that. I hope lots of people see it.

I also have a feeling that a left-wing activist group may have been behind this too, and may have been the one that leaked Schumer's letter to the media. IndyMac was apparently very naive about politics.

Last summer, Schumer sent letters to a whole bunch of big mortgage lenders demanding all sorts of information about their loan portfolios and servicing practices. I know many conmpanies responded and gave him the information. Perhaps IndyMac told him to get lost.

On June 30, a shadowy left-wing group called the Center For Responsible Lending published a nasty "report" on IndyMac which accused it of all sorts of abusive lending practices. You can read the report here. It's rare to see groups like this single out a lender for such a diatribe. My guess is that CRL tried to shake down IndyMac for money and IndyMac told them to shove it. CRL has filed 10 lawuits against IndyMac and much of the "evidence" in their report comes from bogus claims in its lawsuits.

CRL has close ties to many Democrats on Capitol Hill, especially Rep. Brad Miller of North Carolina. I had not been aware of any particluar ties between CRL and Schumer, but it would not surprise me. Schumer sent his letter to the bank regulators the same day that CRL released its report on IndyMac.

25 posted on 07/12/2008 3:55:14 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (RIP Tony Snow, great American, father, and Christian)
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To: Dems_R_Losers
Here's some info on Gramm-Leach-Bliley:
The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act (GLB Act), also known as the Financial Modernization Act of 1999, is a federal law enacted in the United States to control the ways that financial institutions deal with the private information of individuals. The Act consists of three sections: The Financial Privacy Rule, which regulates the collection and disclosure of private financial information; the Safeguards Rule, which stipulates that financial institutions must implement security programs to protect such information; and the Pretexting provisions, which prohibit the practice of pretexting (accessing private information using false pretenses). The Act also requires financial institutions to give customers written privacy notices that explain their information-sharing practices.
Source.

Sounds to me like it's mostly about privacy as opposed to letting greedy mortgage bankers run amuck.

26 posted on 07/12/2008 3:55:47 PM PDT by upchuck (As we doggedly march towards dystopia, my poor country is losing it's mind. God help us!)
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To: BusterBear
Schumer is responsible, period.

And if the run continues...he will be responsible for the depression.

He was irresponsible in an already volatile market. To make public solvency statements in a nervous financial time is irresponsible. He cost investors money, he crashed a bank that may have been able to salvage itself, and he cost the taxpayer $$$$$$.

27 posted on 07/12/2008 3:57:09 PM PDT by EBH ( ... the riotousness of the crowd is always very close to madness. --Alculin c.735-804)
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To: fella

That is the first link I cited in my reply #1 above, as well as others.


28 posted on 07/12/2008 3:58:47 PM PDT by upchuck (As we doggedly march towards dystopia, my poor country is losing it's mind. God help us!)
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To: upchuck

Only a complete idiot would do what Schumer did.


29 posted on 07/12/2008 4:02:32 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Oh that’s nonsense, the bad business decisions led to the run on the bank.


30 posted on 07/12/2008 4:03:29 PM PDT by Philly Nomad
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To: upchuck
I got those numbers last night from opensecrets.org. I did multiple searches for contributions by IndyMac and its senior executives to any political committees or candidates, and found none. I also checked with the Clerk of the House website and IndyMac is not registered as a lobbying organization or as a client of any lobbyist.

I may be putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5 here, but it looks damn fishy to me.

31 posted on 07/12/2008 4:03:57 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (RIP Tony Snow, great American, father, and Christian)
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To: EBH

Is there any way to punish Schuckster?


32 posted on 07/12/2008 4:04:46 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Dems_R_Losers
it looks damn fishy to me

Agreed! Needs to be looked into.

33 posted on 07/12/2008 4:05:54 PM PDT by upchuck (As we doggedly march towards dystopia, my poor country is losing it's mind. God help us!)
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To: iopscusa
Is there any way to punish Schuckster?

I'm sure there is. But the RATS sure a hell won't do it and the pubbies don't have any balls, so there ya go.

34 posted on 07/12/2008 4:07:52 PM PDT by upchuck (As we doggedly march towards dystopia, my poor country is losing it's mind. God help us!)
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To: upchuck
Pretty good for a first link.

This story needs to be hammered right through untill Monday so that it doesn't windup in the "Old News" pile.

35 posted on 07/12/2008 4:08:37 PM PDT by fella ("...He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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To: iopscusa
We can start by demanding he be removed or forced to resign from those committees.

Sen. Shumer is a member of multiple committees, each of which gives him a call on the financial markets and banking sector: Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs & Finance are two of his key Senate committees. He also Chairs the Senate Subcommittees on Economic Policy (Banking).

Ultimate goal is removal from office for a lack of public confidence.

36 posted on 07/12/2008 4:08:42 PM PDT by EBH ( ... the riotousness of the crowd is always very close to madness. --Alculin c.735-804)
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To: upchuck

I live for the day when Schumer has his Spitzer Moment and that smirk gets wiped-off his kisser...


37 posted on 07/12/2008 4:09:16 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: upchuck

Yes, Shumer may have exacerbated the problem, but he may have done so intentionally so Obama surrogates in the left-wing media can remind America of the “Keating Five”.


38 posted on 07/12/2008 4:09:21 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: Dems_R_Losers; sloop; BusterBear

Hey, all I did was re-post what you did the legwork on FRiend, as did Sloop earlier today.

Anyone can make the argument that Schumer only stated what was going to inevitably happen to IndyMac but that overlooks the fact that Schumer made the decision to go public with private statements regarding IndyMac’s liquidity (as stated by Freeper BusterBear up at post #22), which is a highly irresponsible thing to do.

It’s easy for Schumer to play fast and loose with the financial security of millions of Americans, he’s got his, and he’ll ride his golden parachute out of the U.S. Senate at whatever time he decides is the ‘right time’ to retire. He’s a corrupt ‘Rat from New York, and his kind are seldom turned out of office because the voters who keep putting him back in there are quite frankly either just as corrupt as he is, or as stupid as a bag o’ hammers - take your pick.

What is needed, and what I doubt this current Justice Department is capable of, is an investigation into Schumer’s actions in this affair, and if there is evidence of wrong doing, Schumer should be frog marched out of his office and into the slammer at least until he makes bail. The Feds need to send a message to anyone, elected official or not, who seeks to trash talk a financial institution to the point where rumors take on the power of fact, and depositors start losing confidence in the banking system.

To some who don’t like the way our banking system works, that might sound almost appealing but they shouldn’t kid themselves: an economic collapse is exactly what our foreign enemies want, because in their minds it hastens the demise of the United States, and our domestic enemies likewise seek economic collapse (and I’m talking about Democrats here) because they see it as a guaranteed pathway back to controlling all three branches of government.

God help us if that happens.


39 posted on 07/12/2008 4:10:25 PM PDT by mkjessup
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To: dolphins
Spot on, and well said!

Add one more item, though. If the Marxist 'Rats hadn't virtually forced many banks to engage in ''subprime'' (otherwise known as ''we know you ain't gettin' paid back, suckah, tough shjt'') lending, there'd be some tens of billions more capital available for this crunch...and not nearly so many badly weakened banks.

40 posted on 07/12/2008 4:11:17 PM PDT by SAJ
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